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Is it me or are 70-80% of today's VN (erotic and non-erotic) have this same look and feel to them art wise.

But then again, I don't play much VN (I only see the CGs if you know what I mean :wink:) . The only VNs that I've played are: Saya no Uta, Edelweiss, Togainu no Chi, DRAMAtical Murder and DRAMAtical Murder: reConnect.


Edited by VortexBlast - 2/26/14 at 2:21pm
post #106202 of 137981
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Oh that goes without saying. A lot of the higher up ones are simply overhyped.

 

Many, but not all. 

 

Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

 

Oyasumi punpun definately deserves going up there. But....a few others

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Is it me or are 70-80% of today's VN (erotic and non-erotic) have this same look and feel to them art wise.

But then again, I don't play much VN (I only see the CGs if you know what I mean :wink:) . The only VNs that I've played are: Saya no Uta, Edelweiss, Togainu no Chi, DRAMAtical Murder and DRAMAtical Murder: reConnect.

When the art style and formula is making so much money, why change it? Is the logic

post #106203 of 137981
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

Well hey, you can't expect too much from a 30 hour VN compressed into a 5 hour anime.
For the record, C;H remains one of my favorite VNs of all time.
(looking at that pic.... I don't remember the anime artwork being this bad.... oh wells...)
In the mean time, wait for the 4th ";" series... ChäoS;Child

The art was pretty sketchy in that show. The issue with turning the VN into an anime, is that the best way to do it in a 12 episode run is to just pick one girl and follow that rout. C;H didn't really pick any girl, and that would be fine if the other events that happen to the main character were at least a little interesting... but they weren't. He was caught up in a whirlwind of stuff from the get-go, and to me, he never figured anything. Even his cliched "epiphany" in the final episode didn't seem genuine, I still think he hadn't figured out a damn thing lol.

If you have more time (24 episode series), you can do what Kanon did and touch base with everyone but only maintain 2 or 3 "main" love interests.
post #106204 of 137981
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Most AWESOMESAUCE anime and manga aren't in the top 10. A lot are, but many are like at 100

My favorite show is ranked #596.
post #106205 of 137981
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

When the art style and formula is making so much money, why change it? Is the logic

 

You don't change a winning team I guess.

 

But sometimes, change is good.

 

Dayum, I just can't believe how good my tiny Audiophonics U-Sabre DAC sounds. DAC wise, It's really the neutral and detailed kind with an impressive amount of resolve for it's price and form factor. It's not as smooth sounding nor as wide sounding as the HP-P1 but it's a huge upgrade from the crappy inboard sound from the laptop.

The only thing I don't like is the amp section (too weak for planars) but I couldn't care less because I'm using the RCA line out to a Fiio E12. 

I may write a review about it in the coming weeks.

For those who don't know, the Audiophonics U-Sabre is basically a HiFimeDIY with slight variations.

post #106206 of 137981
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Many, but not all. 
Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

Lists like that are dangerous, there are a lot of shows that I dropped in the top 100, those Natsume Yuujinchou series were real snooze-fests for me. And how is Magi that high? I am enjoying Magi, but it is not the 68th best anime series by a long shot.

Also you see a lot of fan-boyism in there, sequels rank much higher because they are more likely to be watched by people already hooked to the show, but I'd say 80+% of the time sequels are subjectively worse than the first seasons of most shows.
Edited by Muinarc - 2/26/14 at 2:39pm
post #106207 of 137981
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My favorite show is ranked #596.

Mine is #81 ^o^

 

 

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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post


Lists like that are dangerous, there are a lot of shows that I dropped in the top 100, those Natsume Yuujinchou series were real snooze-fests for me. And how is Magi that high? I am enjoying Magi, but it is not the 68th best anime series by a long shot.

Also you see a lot of fan-boyism in there, sequels rank much higher because they are more likely to be watched by people already hooked to the show, but I'd say 80+% of the time sequels are subjectively worse than the first seasons of most shows.

Yup, trusting positive reviews is always kind of risky, but if there are hundreds of people rating a show with a 6/10 or whatever, then there has to be at least a bit of trith in this score.

post #106208 of 137981
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

 

 

I think review scores are not a really good indication of how good or bad an anime or manga is. 

The problem is that most people really don't want to read a short or long review. Most of them look at the score and if it's good then they'll watch it thus its popularity will raise regardless if he thinks it's good or not.

 

A solution for this is to do what Kotaku has done for a while for their games and animes review system. Remove the scoring system and put a more simpler neutral "should you watch it/play it" with its pros and cons.

post #106209 of 137981
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post


My favorite show is ranked #596.

 

dayum...thats kinda low

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Originally Posted by VortexBlast View Post
 

 

You don't change a winning team I guess.

 

But sometimes, change is good.

 

Dayum, I just can't believe how good my tiny Audiophonics U-Sabre DAC sounds. DAC wise, It's really the neutral and detailed kind with an impressive amount of resolve for it's price and form factor. It's not as smooth sounding nor as wide sounding as the HP-P1 but it's a huge upgrade from the crappy inboard sound from the laptop.

The only thing I don't like is the amp section (too weak for planars) but I couldn't care less because I'm using the RCA line out to a Fiio E12. 

I may write a review about it in the coming weeks.

For those who don't know, the Audiophonics U-Sabre is basically a HiFimeDIY with slight variations.

Nice, more pics :D

 

But yeah, I've been posting sales charts for you guys.....that formula WORKS. 

 

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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post


Lists like that are dangerous, there are a lot of shows that I dropped in the top 100, those Natsume Yuujinchou series were real snooze-fests for me. And how is Magi that high? I am enjoying Magi, but it is not the 68th best anime series by a long shot.

Also you see a lot of fan-boyism in there, sequels rank much higher because they are more likely to be watched by people already hooked to the show, but I'd say 80+% of the time sequels are subjectively worse than the first seasons of most shows.

Of course, they are HIGHLY dangerous, especially the vermin they contain

post #106210 of 137981
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post


The art was pretty sketchy in that show. The issue with turning the VN into an anime, is that the best way to do it in a 12 episode run is to just pick one girl and follow that rout. C;H didn't really pick any girl, and that would be fine if the other events that happen to the main character were at least a little interesting... but they weren't. He was caught up in a whirlwind of stuff from the get-go, and to me, he never figured anything. Even his cliched "epiphany" in the final episode didn't seem genuine, I still think he hadn't figured out a damn thing lol.

If you have more time (24 episode series), you can do what Kanon did and touch base with everyone but only maintain 2 or 3 "main" love interests.

C;H is actually NOT a galge, you don't get to pick a girl and enjoy life with her. The "romance" was there for an entirely different purpose.... of course, many wouldn't know because of how horribly adapted the anime is... One of the main themes in this series is that when everybody hallucinates, it becomes a reality.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
You got the bit where the MC isn't real right?
post #106211 of 137981

Can't get this stupid song out of my head...

post #106212 of 137981
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

C;H is actually NOT a galge, you don't get to pick a girl and enjoy life with her. The "romance" was there for an entirely different purpose.... of course, many wouldn't know because of how horribly adapted the anime is... One of the main themes in this series is that when everybody hallucinates, it becomes a reality. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
You got the bit where the MC isn't real right?

Lol yes I got that. It still was portrayed as some form of magic though. So I just figured everyone was a shikigami or something, nothing very new or exciting about that. Plus I saw the Matrix so..........
post #106213 of 137981

Poolside Identity is pretty awesome as well. 

post #106214 of 137981
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Poolside Identity is pretty awesome as well. 

It actually is.

post #106215 of 137981
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

dayum...thats kinda low
Of course, they are HIGHLY dangerous, especially the vermin they contain

Well I looked for the lowest ranked show I could find, a 4.0, and it was #7600. So that puts my fave in the 92nd percentile. Seems ok to me lol.

As for the dangers, I meant dangerously deceptive, but the vermin are a real danger as well.

* edit * I found a show ranked #8800+ on MAL, there's probably more than 10,000 entries there though.
Edited by Muinarc - 2/26/14 at 3:29pm
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