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post #106186 of 149628
Ok yet another series was completed this past weekend (I told you that I went on a hell of a binge). This time I will give you my short impression/review of Chäos;Head.


Since I finished Steins;Gate a couple of weeks ago and I had seen Robotics;Notes, I figured that I might as well finish the semicolon series off with Chaos;Head. Well I didn't save the best for last. While I liked that the main character was a NEET in training and otaku, there wasn't really anything else of note in the series.

You can tell while watching it that it was sourced from a VN, but the way they handled it was pretty sad. There really was no decent romance, they hinted at one very early on but nothing progressed from there. Instead the focus was on all of the twists and turns you expect from these ; shows, but in this case, the twists and turns were boring. Even the out of left field ones left you thinking "ok, whatever, that's cool that person X that I don't care about has issues, but is it over yet?". They make a big deal over certain details but when the "big reveal" happens, they turn out to be pretty minor. Thus, instead of building you up for the grand finale, you are left apathetic most, if not all of the time.

Can you tell I was underwhelmed?


5/10

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Edited by Muinarc - 2/26/14 at 11:45am
post #106187 of 149628

Why would you even watch something that is ranked #3344 on MAL?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4975/Ch%C3%A4oS;HEAd

If something is ranked so poorly than it must be objectively bad.

post #106188 of 149628
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Why would you even watch something that is ranked #3344 on MAL?
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4975/Ch%C3%A4oS;HEAd
If something is ranked so poorly than it must be objectively bad.

1) It was there.

2) I watched the other 2 " ; " shows and I am a completionist.

3) Watching bad stuff makes for more well-rounded opinions, and it helps me appreciate the merely good or above average shows that much more!

4) I might be a masochist, the jury is still out on that one however.
post #106189 of 149628

Fair enough, I guess.
I just don't have the time or patience to watch shows that are most likely not worth my time.

post #106190 of 149628
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Why would you even watch something that is ranked #3344 on MAL?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4975/Ch%C3%A4oS;HEAd

If something is ranked so poorly than it must be objectively bad.

Most AWESOMESAUCE anime and manga aren't in the top 10. A lot are, but many are like at 100

post #106191 of 149628
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post

Ok yet another series was completed this past weekend (I told you that I went on a hell of a binge). This time I will give you my short impression/review of Chäos;Head.


Since I finished Steins;Gate a couple of weeks ago and I had seen Robotics;Notes, I figured that I might as well finish the semicolon series off with Chaos;Head. Well I didn't save the best for last. While I liked that the main character was a NEET in training and otaku, there wasn't really anything else of note in the series.

You can tell while watching it that it was sourced from a VN, but the way they handled it was pretty sad. There really was no decent romance, they hinted at one very early on but nothing progressed from there. Instead the focus was on all of the twists and turns you expect from these ; shows, but in this case, the twists and turns were boring. Even the out of left field ones left you thinking "ok, whatever, that's cool that person X that I don't care about has issues, but is it over yet?". They make a big deal over certain details but when the "big reveal" happens, they turn out to be pretty minor. Thus, instead of building you up for the grand finale, you are left apathetic most, if not all of the time.

Can you tell I was underwhelmed?


5/10

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Well hey, you can't expect too much from a 30 hour VN compressed into a 5 hour anime.

For the record, C;H remains one of my favorite VNs of all time.

 

(looking at that pic.... I don't remember the anime artwork being this bad.... oh wells...)

 

In the mean time, wait for the 4th ";" series... ChäoS;Child

 


Edited by akiroz - 2/26/14 at 2:15pm
post #106192 of 149628
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Most AWESOMESAUCE anime and manga aren't in the top 10. A lot are, but many are like at 100

Oh that goes without saying. A lot of the higher up ones are simply overhyped.

post #106193 of 149628

Is it me or are 70-80% of today's VN (erotic and non-erotic) have this same look and feel to them art wise.

But then again, I don't play much VN (I only see the CGs if you know what I mean :wink:) . The only VNs that I've played are: Saya no Uta, Edelweiss, Togainu no Chi, DRAMAtical Murder and DRAMAtical Murder: reConnect.


Edited by VortexBlast - 2/26/14 at 2:21pm
post #106194 of 149628
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Oh that goes without saying. A lot of the higher up ones are simply overhyped.

 

Many, but not all. 

 

Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

 

Oyasumi punpun definately deserves going up there. But....a few others

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Is it me or are 70-80% of today's VN (erotic and non-erotic) have this same look and feel to them art wise.

But then again, I don't play much VN (I only see the CGs if you know what I mean :wink:) . The only VNs that I've played are: Saya no Uta, Edelweiss, Togainu no Chi, DRAMAtical Murder and DRAMAtical Murder: reConnect.

When the art style and formula is making so much money, why change it? Is the logic

post #106195 of 149628
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Well hey, you can't expect too much from a 30 hour VN compressed into a 5 hour anime.
For the record, C;H remains one of my favorite VNs of all time.
(looking at that pic.... I don't remember the anime artwork being this bad.... oh wells...)
In the mean time, wait for the 4th ";" series... ChäoS;Child

The art was pretty sketchy in that show. The issue with turning the VN into an anime, is that the best way to do it in a 12 episode run is to just pick one girl and follow that rout. C;H didn't really pick any girl, and that would be fine if the other events that happen to the main character were at least a little interesting... but they weren't. He was caught up in a whirlwind of stuff from the get-go, and to me, he never figured anything. Even his cliched "epiphany" in the final episode didn't seem genuine, I still think he hadn't figured out a damn thing lol.

If you have more time (24 episode series), you can do what Kanon did and touch base with everyone but only maintain 2 or 3 "main" love interests.
post #106196 of 149628
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Most AWESOMESAUCE anime and manga aren't in the top 10. A lot are, but many are like at 100

My favorite show is ranked #596.
post #106197 of 149628
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When the art style and formula is making so much money, why change it? Is the logic

 

You don't change a winning team I guess.

 

But sometimes, change is good.

 

Dayum, I just can't believe how good my tiny Audiophonics U-Sabre DAC sounds. DAC wise, It's really the neutral and detailed kind with an impressive amount of resolve for it's price and form factor. It's not as smooth sounding nor as wide sounding as the HP-P1 but it's a huge upgrade from the crappy inboard sound from the laptop.

The only thing I don't like is the amp section (too weak for planars) but I couldn't care less because I'm using the RCA line out to a Fiio E12. 

I may write a review about it in the coming weeks.

For those who don't know, the Audiophonics U-Sabre is basically a HiFimeDIY with slight variations.

post #106198 of 149628
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Many, but not all. 
Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

Lists like that are dangerous, there are a lot of shows that I dropped in the top 100, those Natsume Yuujinchou series were real snooze-fests for me. And how is Magi that high? I am enjoying Magi, but it is not the 68th best anime series by a long shot.

Also you see a lot of fan-boyism in there, sequels rank much higher because they are more likely to be watched by people already hooked to the show, but I'd say 80+% of the time sequels are subjectively worse than the first seasons of most shows.
Edited by Muinarc - 2/26/14 at 2:39pm
post #106199 of 149628
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My favorite show is ranked #596.

Mine is #81 ^o^

 

 

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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post


Lists like that are dangerous, there are a lot of shows that I dropped in the top 100, those Natsume Yuujinchou series were real snooze-fests for me. And how is Magi that high? I am enjoying Magi, but it is not the 68th best anime series by a long shot.

Also you see a lot of fan-boyism in there, sequels rank much higher because they are more likely to be watched by people already hooked to the show, but I'd say 80+% of the time sequels are subjectively worse than the first seasons of most shows.

Yup, trusting positive reviews is always kind of risky, but if there are hundreds of people rating a show with a 6/10 or whatever, then there has to be at least a bit of trith in this score.

post #106200 of 149628
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

Most of the top 10 on MAL for anime and manga are good and can be understood in terms of how it was up that high...but there are better ones.

 

 

I think review scores are not a really good indication of how good or bad an anime or manga is. 

The problem is that most people really don't want to read a short or long review. Most of them look at the score and if it's good then they'll watch it thus its popularity will raise regardless if he thinks it's good or not.

 

A solution for this is to do what Kotaku has done for a while for their games and animes review system. Remove the scoring system and put a more simpler neutral "should you watch it/play it" with its pros and cons.

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