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Now you are the one who is saying borderline one-sided stuff :|

Yep, he asked for a TLDR so I'm summing up the key arguments that I am making, of which, since they are arguments will be one sided. 

 

I already gave a few different sides to the arguments in my previous long posts. He asked for a TLDR, so I gave him my side. But because I already included information in the 'main' stuff I wrote, I won't consider it as such.

post #102572 of 127400
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Putin is someone I look up to. Remember, no right and wrong. Putin's bad assery statements, and his recent actions in the last decade make him an icon for me. He does'nt fu***** hide that he will do whatever it takes and that he controls Russia. He doesn't hide it. He makes bad ass statements and gets stuff done. Russia's economy, and social life has improved by mangnitudes since he took office. He is the Arnold Swarchenegger of Russia. He will **** you up, and doesn't care. He will get his way and it will be done. However, the thing I love most about him is that he is a rationale being that makes compromises while still getting stuff done. Obviously, Russia still isn't completely reinvirogated, but compared to before he took office and before he became the ruler. Russia was a desolete place post 1991.

Putin? Rational? I wouldn't call his religious anti-gay BS rational.
Sure, he archieved some great things, but that doesn't make him any more likeable to me.
One more question and then please let us never talk about him again....
Is there any modern dictator that you don't like?

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Yep, he asked for a TLDR so I'm summing up the key arguments that I am making, of which, since they are arguments will be one sided. 

 

I already gave a few different sides to the arguments in my previous long posts. He asked for a TLDR, so I gave him my side. But because I already included information in the 'main' stuff I wrote, I won't consider it as such.

Fair enough.....


Edited by Tom Yum Goong - 1/23/14 at 9:52am
post #102573 of 127400
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Putin? Rational? I wouldn't call his religious anti-gay BS rational.
Sure, he archieved some great things, but that doesn't make him any more likeable to me.
One more question and then please let us never talk about him again....
Is there any modern dictator that you don't like?

 

Fair enough.....

How and why wouldn't you? His country has a demographic of X who are anti gay and extremely religious. If I was in his shoes. I would have made the same statements about gays etc. I'm very pro-gay marriage by the way. In politics, none of it matters. If the population I am representing is X, then I will be X if all the analysis points to me supporting X being beneficial to the country and my office. If the country likes X but analysis shows that my government and inter country relations would better be off with supporting Y as a cost-to-benefit ratio, then I will support Y. This is how the world spins. 

 

He isn't likeable to most people. But I admire him is how I should put it rather than liking.

 

I admire the aspirations, authority, and political actions of most leaders in modern history no matter what their policies are. I'm speaking about this from a 3rd party point of view. In where its all just fascinating really. It's just history. I've learned to acustom myself to see modern and semi-past events as something out of a history book as a way to attempt to eliminate bias. It's worked. There are admirable traits, policies, and directions of almost any leader in history no matter who. It's really all the same to me.

 

Think about history and events as I think about them and you will come to see what I mean. Every now and then, I will use 'in body' type of thinking in the sense that rather than thinking about it as an outsider, I'm thinking about it as a current event that associates me. As you may see, this draws huge bias. 

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

I watched the first two episodes of it and kind of lost interest since it looked like it was just going to be a mediocre body-switching show.
Is there more to it?

 

 



It gets quite dramatic. I don't really want to spoil but the show deals heavily with interpersonal relationships and the emotions and actions we choose to show/hide from others. I would say it's quite far from "just a body-switching" show though.
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How and why wouldn't you? His country has a demographic of X who are anti gay and extremely religious. If I was in his shoes. I would have made the same statements about gays etc. I'm very pro-gay marriage by the way. In politics, none of it matters. If the population I am representing is X, then I will be X if all the analysis points to me supporting X being beneficial to the country and my office. If the country likes X but analysis shows that my government and inter country relations would better be off with supporting Y as a cost-to-benefit ratio, then I will support Y. This is how the world spins. 

 



Continuously failing to cater to a minority, or even oppressing them (or making it feel like opression) is a dangerous thing to do. Maybe not in his time in power, or even his lifetime.... but history has shown it can definitely come back to haunt you, your people, or your country.

In this specific case of homosexuality, there might not be much danger of an uprising or anything from that demographic alone, but what if they team up and become sympathizers with another radical and oppressed group?
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How and why wouldn't you? His country has a demographic of X who are anti gay and extremely religious. If I was in his shoes. I would have made the same statements about gays etc. I'm very pro-gay marriage by the way. In politics, none of it matters. If the population I am representing is X, then I will be X if all the analysis points to me supporting X being beneficial to the country and my office. If the country likes X but analysis shows that my government and inter country relations would better be off with supporting Y as a cost-to-benefit ratio, then I will support Y. This is how the world spins. 

 

 



Continuously failing to cater to a minority, or even oppressing them (or making it feel like opression) is a dangerous thing to do. Maybe not in his time in power, or even his lifetime.... but history has shown it can definitely come back to haunt you, your people, or your country.

In this specific case of homosexuality, there might not be much danger of an uprising or anything from that demographic alone, but what if they team up and become sympathizers with another radical and oppressed group?

A minority? A lot of Eastern Russian and Chinese actions actually cater to the majority. 

 

Opression is such an old word. Let's call it.... security. Countries love using terrorism and security today.

 

If and when that happens, it just happens. Guess what? Despite what Western Media says in convicing the dumb people of every country, the diplomacy of every country is smart enough to know what is going on.

 

If an oppreseed group riots. So be it. Police are brought in. If and when (and will) turn violent, mass action is utilized. If the country has enough military and police strength AND has enough diplomatic pull. Nothing will happen. Western or Eastern media will condem it, and the governments of other countries will make announcements. But when the days over. Guess what? You know whats better for most governmetns in the world? Yeah, a stable government that they can trade and do stuff with.+

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A minority? A lot of Eastern Russian and Chinese actions actually cater to the majority. 

 

Opression is such an old word. Let's call it.... security. Countries love using terrorism and security today.

 

If and when that happens, it just happens. Guess what? Despite what Western Media says in convicing the dumb people of every country, the diplomacy of every country is smart enough to know what is going on.

 

If an oppreseed group riots. So be it. Police are brought in. If and when (and will) turn violent, mass action is utilized. If the country has enough military and police strength AND has enough diplomatic pull. Nothing will happen. Western or Eastern media will condem it, and the governments of other countries will make announcements. But when the days over. Guess what? You know whats better for most governmetns in the world? Yeah, a stable government that they can trade and do stuff with.+

 




Yes a minority, I was speaking in the chain re: TYG mentioning Putin's stance on homosexuality and your talking about demo X and demo Y.

Of course you cater to the majority. Oppression and security are not the same thing. A stable govt is nice and all, but if the people in the streets are at each others throats, it won't last.

Your last rhetorical(?) questions.... are you serious or being sarcastic? I can't tell. If you are trying to poke fun at how meddling in other country's affairs is counter productive, that's a fair argument to be had. I also understand that the U.S. (and maybe most of the EU now) have long had a drive towards world homogenization. It's a lot easier to deal with other countries when they act just like you. For instance, you would probably rather rent out a room in your house to your bff that has many of the same ideals as you, rather that that crazy 3rd uncle that likes to tie up and beat his dogs in the back yard.
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Does your "3rd party view" also include ethics, bowei?
I have the faint suspicion that they don't play a real role in your equations.

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A bit random...but.

 

Top 10 Fav anime of all time... go! (I'll do mine later, still thinking) Organize it however you want.

Hmm... that one is hard...... I haven't seen much great anime, just decent ones.

 

1. Saya no Uta (Shaddup i don't care, it's that good imo)

2. Madoka Magica

3. Psycho Pass

4. Steins Gate

5. Black Rock Shooter

6-10. OreImo, Higurashi, Jigoku Shoujo, Clannad, Strike Witches.

 

 

I think I'm an Urobuchi/Nitroplus fan................. lol

post #102580 of 127400
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

Favourite Anime of all time in no particular order (okay maybe more than 10 because I can't decide):

 

-Ghost in the Shell

-Cowboy Bebop

-Trigun

-Outlaw Star

-Satoshi Kon (Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress)

-Makoto Shinkai (5cm Per Second, The Place Promised in Our Early Days, Voices of a Distant Star)

-Most of Studio Ghibli (The best one is probably Ocean Waves)

-Akira

-Maison Ikkoku

-Kimagure Orange Road

-Hana Yori Dango

 

 

Some of which I've still to watch but will probably be put to the list later as well:

 

-Black Lagoon

-Neon Genesis Evangelion

-Rurouni Kenshin

-Serial Experiments Lain

-Kara no Kyoukai

-Monster

And.......some others that I can't think of right now mostly older ones though.

Dammit dude... Thanks for adding even more to my Plan to Watch list on MAL. :D

 

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Epic! Halfway on season 2 now :3

Another reason why I don't like this anime :3
 


Wow, these cans look weird.

DxD isn't tooo bad, you have to be in the right mood for it though

 

Whoa what the... Those connectors for the cups look like 3.5mm connectors that you'd use to connect headphones to portable stuff! D:

 

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Bought Cereal and Milk yesterday....I forgot I don't have any actual eating utensils.....

 

College DIY FTW

 

Lmao, second quarter and you still don't even have a bowl? How many times do you cook your own meals mang?

 

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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

A bit random...but.

 

Top 10 Fav anime of all time... go! (I'll do mine later, still thinking) Organize it however you want.

Hmm... that one is hard...... I haven't seen much great anime, just decent ones.

 

1. Saya no Uta (Shaddup i don't care, it's that good imo)

2. Madoka Magica

3. Psycho Pass

4. Steins Gate

5. Black Rock Shooter

6-10. OreImo, Higurashi, Jigoku Shoujo, Clannad, Strike Witches.

 

 

I think I'm an Urobuchi/Nitroplus fan................. lol

Hey, I thought you weren't supposed to be on the internet! :D

post #102581 of 127400
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Does your "3rd party view" also include ethics, bowei?

I have the faint suspicion that they don't play a real role in your equations.


 



I think the world just needs more hugs.

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Does your "3rd party view" also include ethics, bowei?

I have the faint suspicion that they don't play a real role in your equations.

 



I think the world just needs more hugs.

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Banishment! This! Woooorld!

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Banishment! This! Woooorld!

 



MOAR HUGS

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Banishment! This! Woooorld!

 



MOAR HUGS

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I have no idea what's going on here. XD

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