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post #31 of 63
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Fischer FA-003 and Brainwavz HM5 are both considered super neutral like the HD600, and said to be able to hit low when songs called for it. I can't say the same about the HD598, which won't satisfy anyone who holds even a portion of importance towards bass.


Okay, so if it came down to it, considering the criteria, M50's vs. the HM5, aimed mainly at metal, pop and electronic?
Also, if I can just take 30 seconds to note how extraordinarily helpful all of you have been, I'm absolutely amazed at the level of help I've received in such a small amount of time. Thank you.

post #32 of 63
The M50 does electronic genres incredibly well.

If I were to put them on a weird scale that probably only I understand, lol:

M50: Bass: +2, Mids: 0, Treble: +2
HD598: Bass: 0, Mids: +2, + Treble: +2
post #33 of 63
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The M50 does electronic genres incredibly well.
If I were to put them on a weird scale that probably only I understand, lol:
M50: Bass: +2, Mids: 0, Treble: +2
HD598: Bass: 0, Mids: +2, + Treble: +2


For me, I'd rather sacrifice that slight increase in the mids, to gain in the bass - the key determining factor being that the lost increase isn't that great. If you had to place the HM5's on that scale, where would they fall?

post #34 of 63
I haven't heard the HM5: FWIR My assumption would be that they'd be even across the board:

Bass: +1 (as in it will hit when it's called for), Mids: +1 (nice and upfront), Treble +1 (heard of a slight mid hump towards lower treble).

If I were in your shoes, I'd probably start here, though not entirely sure the bass would be enough, though the other two would be.

As for the M50's mids, they're only slightly recessed due to the bass and treble emphasis. It's not a gaping hole, like they are on other bass and treble heavy cans.
post #35 of 63

OP: The ATH-M50s can be found at the sound professionals for $120+shipping. 

 

I should have my M50s this week, as well as a pair of monoprice premium DJ whatevers. 

post #36 of 63
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OP: The ATH-M50s can be found at the sound professionals for $120+shipping. 

 

I should have my M50s this week, as well as a pair of monoprice premium DJ whatevers. 


Thanks for that, but (from what I can see) it's only the refurbs that are $120? 

 

post #37 of 63
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I haven't heard the HM5: FWIR My assumption would be that they'd be even across the board:
Bass: +1 (as in it will hit when it's called for), Mids: +1 (nice and upfront), Treble +1 (heard of a slight mid hump towards lower treble).
If I were in your shoes, I'd probably start here, though not entirely sure the bass would be enough, though the other two would be.
As for the M50's mids, they're only slightly recessed due to the bass and treble emphasis. It's not a gaping hole, like they are on other bass and treble heavy cans.


I think for the sake of keeping my bass tight, I'll go the M50's. I know it's considered not worth it at nearly $200 total, but if it can meet what I need it to do, I have no problem with $200.

post #38 of 63
I would honestly look into the Creative Aurvana Live over the M50 as they are priced better for similar performance, better comfort, and richer mids.

CAL: Bass: +2 Mids: +0.5: Treble: +1.5

You literally lose a little bit of treble for a little bit of mids in comparison to the M50. Also has a bigger soundstage. The thing M50 clearly does better is keep noise out, and have a stronger construction (they are built like tanks), and collapse (though that's unimportant to me).

The M50 is slightly more aggressive, while the CAL is slightly more laid back.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/18/11 at 9:25am
post #39 of 63
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I would honestly look into the Creative Aurvana Live over the M50 as they are priced better for similar performance, better comfort, and richer mids.
CAL: Bass: +2 Mids: +0.5: Treble: +1.5
You literally lose a little bit of treble for a little bit of mids in comparison to the M50. Also has a bigger soundstage. The thing M50 clearly does better is keep noise out, and have a stronger construction (they are built like tanks), and collapse (though that's unimportant to me).
The M50 is slightly more aggressive, while the CAL is slightly more laid back.


For me, that extra, as you put it, aggression, of the M50's pretty much sell it for me. If I could ask one last thing? Within a range of say, $30, would it be worth picking up a portable amplifier at all, or is anything in that price range not worth it?

post #40 of 63
The M50 is one of the very few headphones that don't change much by amping, and certainly not by a $30 amp. It really isn't too picky. I'd save up for something better in the future. You probably would notice a difference with a cheap amp. Even the Lyr with it's gobs of power didn't really add or take anything from the M50, just a very little bit of tightening on the bass and a more organic sound, though that's just what the Lyr does to pretty much anything.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/18/11 at 9:40am
post #41 of 63
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The M50 is one of the very few headphones that don't change much by amping, and certainly not by a $30 amp. It really isn't too picky. I'd save up for something better in the future. You probably would notice a difference with a cheap amp. Even the Lyr with it's gobs of power didn't really add or take anything from the M50, just a very little bit of tightening on the bass and a more organic sound, though that's just what the Lyr does to pretty much anything.


Okay, thanks for that; and thank you for your continued help, and putting up with my various levels of ******** - you've been a tremendous help. Thank you, and to everyone else who gave their contributions.

Liam.

post #42 of 63
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post
I would honestly look into the Creative Aurvana Live over the M50 as they are priced better for similar performance, better comfort, and richer mids.
CAL: Bass: +2 Mids: +0.5: Treble: +1.5
You literally lose a little bit of treble for a little bit of mids in comparison to the M50. Also has a bigger soundstage. The thing M50 clearly does better is keep noise out, and have a stronger construction (they are built like tanks), and collapse (though that's unimportant to me).
The M50 is slightly more aggressive, while the CAL is slightly more laid back.

Is that the one that is based on the D1001? Is it a rebadged carbon copy or are there some differences from the D1001?

 

I probably would skip the amp for the M50 in the $30 range. I believe they do best with near-zero output impedance and decent current. A colored, tubed, or high output impedance amp would probably be detrimental to the low impedance M50, in fact. They should be okay out of a portable.


Edited by Nepenthe - 12/18/11 at 9:58am
post #43 of 63
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Thanks for that, but (from what I can see) it's only the refurbs that are $120? 

 



If you pick the new option, there's a yellow box directing you to a page where they give you a $40 discount code. 

post #44 of 63

OP,

 

   What is current audio setup? Are you listening out of a laptop, desktop, record player, etc.? Do you currently own an amp?  Do you  plan on buying an amp?

 

Is the headphone for home listening, school listening, or travel listening?  How careful do you want to be with your headphones?

 

IMHO these are just as, if not more, important questions than comparisons on audio quality and flavoring

post #45 of 63
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OP,

 

   What is current audio setup? Are you listening out of a laptop, desktop, record player, etc.? Do you currently own an amp?  Do you  plan on buying an amp?

 

Is the headphone for home listening, school listening, or travel listening?  How careful do you want to be with your headphones?

 

IMHO these are just as, if not more, important questions than comparisons on audio quality and flavoring


Current audio setup is pretty much non-existent at the moment. Primary listening device is my Samsung Galaxy S II smartphone. I don't own an amp, and probably won't be able to afford one for another 2 or 3 months, for anything above $100. The headphones are for mainly home listening, though some travel and school listening would be incl. - though it's not 100% necessary that they fit those environments. Generally, I'm quite careful with my equipment, but that said, I'm not going to buy something that falls apart a week after purchasing it.

 

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