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"The TDK BA100: A Bit Like Beige Wallpaper, But..."

 

...I Like Them!  I have all of about 4 hours of listening time with these headphones, but I don't think I need more to justify my thoughts.  They are BA (balance armature) drivers so burn-in is not a factor.  For this test I used my iPod Classic (no external amp and no EQ adjustments).  Many, many different tips were used to tweak the sound signature, but you may be surprised at what I used in the end.  

 

  • I started with the Shure Olives (they muffled the sound too much and didn't do much in the way of increased bass response).
  • The Etymotic foams were next (they sounded distant and veiled).
  • Followed by the factory silicone tips (not bad, but the seal was not quite right).
  • Next were the Shure yellow foams (terrible!).
  • Followed by the EarSonics bi-flanges (like Goldilocks, close, but not quite right).
  • Followed next by the Compy-like tips (they were similar to the Shure Olives).
  • Last were the Shure Grey Soft Flex Sleeves (perfection!).  The Shure grey silicone tips were almost identical to the TDK OEM tips supplied in the box, but the size large Shure tips just seemed to be a slightly better fit than the large TDK tips for my ears.  Go figure, TDK nailed it with the factory tips.  If they create a good seal in your ear, don't bother with anything else.  I only went with the Shure tips because of the slightly better fit/seal.

 

 

The Review:

 

My normal multi-genre mix of testing music was used to evaluate their performance (Radiohead, Bach, People Under The Stairs, The Shins, AFI, Royksopp and more).  This mix has been my go-to performance benchmark for about a year.  I'm going to draw comparisons between the BA100 and the Shure SE535 and Westone UM3X for this review.  (Disclaimer: I no longer own the UM3X, but the sound signature of that headphone is more "burned into my head" than any other headphone I have ever tried/owned that I can still use them as a basis of comparison.)

 

Let's start with the UM3X.  Since returning my UM3X due to a defect I have been trying to find another headphone for cheap that could remotely mimic their sound signature - warm lush lows, pleasing silky smooth mids, an intimate sound stage and non-threatening highs.  Of many recent low-end IEM purchases I have made I think that the BA100s come the closest with a few exceptions.  The UM3X has the best instrument separation I have ever heard in an IEM.  The Shure SE535s are a close second and the EarSonics SM3s are an even closer third.  As for instrument separation I find the BA100s to come in 4th, a distant 4th, but still in the same realm as the other three mentioned.  Now, more on that search for the ideal low-end UM3X clone I have been looking for.  I think I have found it in the BA100!  OK, you're not going to get the same lush, super-intimate vocal sound signature of the almost $400 UM3X, but you will about as close as you can get for 1/8 of the price (Yes, I got these for $50 on Newegg.com).  Like the UM3X, the highs are rolled off on the BA100 which makes for a very non-fatiguing listening experience.  The mids are not "in your face" like the UM3X but rather nicely placed.  The UM3X is like you are about 2 feet from the artist and the BA100 places you about 10 feet away.  The only part of the UM3X sound signature not represented well with the BA100 is the low bass response.  The UM3X are known for being warm and deep for a BA IEM, the BA100s just can't hang in that area.  For single driver BAs I am surpised at how well they do.  If you can get a good seal with them they will amaze you.

 

I would like to draw a quick comparison of the BA100 to the SE535.  Like the UM3X, the instrument separation isn't quite there, but it's still far better than any dynamic driver-based IEM I have tried.  The SE535 does a great job in the high end range, the BA100 can't quite keep up though - as expected due to them being a single BA driver.  In the bass department, things are much different.  I can't believe how good the BA100 is in the low-end compared to the SE535.  The SE535 have a little more authority, and more extension, but to the untrained ear they are fairly close.  I did find the BA100 slightly more lush and forward in the mid-range than the SE535.  

 

The construction - kind of a mid-range plastic feel.  Somewhere between a high end IEM and a cheap chinese varient.  The cable is flat and is similar to what you would see on a pair of Monster/Beats.  They're descent at staying tangle free, but not as good as the Shure or Sennheiser cables in that regard.  They're totally sealed, no venting.  As such, with the right tips they isolate extremely well.

 

What's included - a nice pouch with a squeeze-close opening, similar to the Klipsch pouches.  3 sizes of silicone tips and Complys (or Comply knock-offs) are also included.  Lastly, you get a shirt clip, a cleaning tool and some spare filters.  Nothing too exciting here.

 

Conclusion:

 

As a reference monitor the SE535 is still my #1 pick in the world and I would absolutely recommend them for that purpose.  The UM3X is the best IEM I can recommend for vocal & mid-range enthusiasts, and also for those with an extreme desire to focus on instrument separation and placement.  That being said, the BA100 is my new #1 pick for a sub $100 BA IEM that does everything well and excels at nothing.  

 

Like beige wallpaper, they are boring, bland, non-offensive.  You never get sick of them, they don't offend you.  You might almost forget that they are there.  The SE535s are like the Sistine Chapel.  You can't help but focus on the details.  There is so much detail from high to low that it can almost get tiresome trying to see everything in its right place.  The UM3X is like gorgeous black & white Ansel Adams print.  What it does, it does exceptionally well, but its rolled off highs give it less character than a color print.  But, there are times were beige is the right choice.  When I want my music to take a back seat to (let's say) writing a headphone review like right now, they are the perfect choice.  They are so laid back and non-fatiguing that you can listen to them for hours and hours.  I recommend them for anyone looking to upgrade from cheap dynamic drivers, if you are looking for better instrument separation than you currently have, or if you value the mid-vocal range and don't mind a little roll-off on both ends of the frequency spectrum.

 

TDK is out of line with a retail price of $199, they're good but not that good.  If you can pick these up for <$100 they are a good bargain.  If you can still get them for about $50 as I did, they are a no-brainer.


Edited by SoulSyde - 12/17/11 at 12:05pm
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Nice review! smile.gif

post #3 of 17

thanks for the review! and would you know how these compare to meelectronic's a151?


Edited by jaqueh - 12/14/11 at 6:15pm
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Wait till you try the BA200. Even at $250 it is a really good buy. I hope TDK will bring to the West sooner.
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Originally Posted by i2ehan View Post

Nice review! smile.gif


Thanks i2ehan, that's strong praise coming from you. smile.gif

 



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Originally Posted by jaqueh View Post

thanks for the review! and would you know how these compare to meelectronic's a151?


I wish I knew, sorry.

 



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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Wait till you try the BA200. Even at $250 it is a really good buy. I hope TDK will bring to the West sooner.


I'm a TDK fan so far.  If I can catch a good deal on them, I'm definitely going to pull the trigger.

 

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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Wait till you try the BA200. Even at $250 it is a really good buy. I hope TDK will bring to the West sooner.


What concerns me most is the high end. Could you please provide any insight as to the BA200's high end, or are we pressed to wait for the full review? smile.gif

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Omg, I can't believe I didn't give stock silicone tips more listening time before sticking in shure olives and call it a day. Upon soulsyde's review, I put the stock tip back and tried again, and they sound a hell lot better than shure olives! Thanks!

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Excellent review! And thanks for the tip on using the gray Shure soft flex tips. Like you, I was having a problem with the large supplied tips, but the Shures fit perfectly. I find the sound that these little gems produce can be summed up in one word, "musical." I'm very happy, particularly for $49. I haven't been able to stop listening since they arrived this afternoon. :-)

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What concerns me most is the high end. Could you please provide any insight as to the BA200's high end, or are we pressed to wait for the full review? smile.gif



Yeah I am curious about the high end too, I hope it is as good (or better) as UE700, or dare I say it, B2?

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What concerns me most is the high end. Could you please provide any insight as to the BA200's high end, or are we pressed to wait for the full review? smile.gif

Treble is there, but a step behind on the overall presentation. If you want sparkly detail and forwarded detail, this is not the IEM you are looking for. BA200 is more like UM3Y - the long lost brother of UM3X, less thick and not quite as textured, but more lively and overall the same style of presentation and same level of SQ.
Edited by ClieOS - 12/14/11 at 8:36pm
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Treble is there, but a step behind on the overall presentation. If you want sparkly detail and forwarded detail, this is not the IEM you are looking for. BA200 is more like UM3Y - the long lost brother of UM3X, less thick and not quite as textured, but more lively and overall the same style of presentation and same level of SQ.


The treble is plenty sparkly for me....listening on my home gears though....highly resolving gears!
 

 

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Well, it sounds fine on its own for sure. But definitely not sparkly when compared to the real sparkly IEM, like ER4S, DBA-02 / B2, etc.
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I too have the BA200 in my possession. I'll try to post up some lengthier impressions later.

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Nice review @soulsyde thanks !, it interests me that you say the midrange is more lush than the se535 smily_headphones1.gif

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I too have the BA200 in my possession. I'll try to post up some lengthier impressions later.

 

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