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post #1096 of 2198

That's understandable. I don't mind it too much as of now, but we'll see if that changes. The reason I picked the HI2050 over the Pro80 was because it was semi-open, but that aspect has kind of let me down.

post #1097 of 2198

I think that Pioneers Se-A1000 are indeed very good headphones for the price!

 

Se-A1000 and Hi-2050 are complementary. In my opinion both sound good in their own way.

 

Pioneer Se-A1000s are really smooth, sweet, forgiving and have bigger soundstage.

Hi-2050s sound somewhat colder but less veiled, have Amazing! detail for the price and pairs really well with the highest quality recordings.

If you like classical music (or not) you should try Vivaldi's Four Seasons - Seiji Ozawa - Boston Symphony Orchestra (TELARC) with your Hi-2050.
Simply Amazing!

 

 

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

Don't get the A1000. They were one of the few headphones I returned for sounding awful.

Making this sort of claims is not really positive from my point of view. I'm sure most people agree on this headphones having one of the largest soundstages (if not the largest one) at its price point, and also agree that this are really smooth and easy to listen.
Probably you expected them to have a different sound signature. Being less 'veiled' or just more forward sounding. That's your right. But I think, that saying that a headphone X sounds awful, without saying at least what you were expecting from them and in which aspects you consider they have failed, neither the kind of music you listened with them, is useless from my point of view.

post #1098 of 2198
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Originally Posted by Me x3 View Post
 

Making this sort of claims is not really positive from my point of view. I'm sure most people agree on this headphones having one of the largest soundstages (if not the largest one) at its price point, and also agree that this are really smooth and easy to listen.
Probably you expected them to have a different sound signature. Being less 'veiled' or just more forward sounding. That's your right. But I think, that saying that a headphone X sounds awful, without saying at least what you were expecting from them and in which aspects you consider they have failed, neither the kind of music you listened with them, is useless from my point of view.

 

Soundstage is meaningless if the headphone is muddy, and yet somehow has no bass. I've already detailed how disappointed I was in the SEA-1000 thread, and don't feel like repeating myself on a headphone I absolutely hated.

 

Don't take my word for it, see for yourself. That drop off after 80hz is horrible.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PioneerSEA1000.pdf


Edited by bhazard - 11/7/13 at 7:52pm
post #1099 of 2198

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PioneerSEA1000.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/GradoRS1.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsCityscapeDowntown.pdf

 

You can use this graphs to get to the conclusion that the highly regarded Grado RS1 sound awful due to that drop off after 80Hz.

And to conclude that Phillips Downtowns are far better sounding headphones than both RS1 and Se-A1000, specially looking at those THD measurements.

 

Measurements are just measurements. And sometimes they can be quite useful. But subjectively perceived sound involves a lot of variables that can not be taken in care when you decide to make an specific and objective measurement.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you have to like how the Pioneer Se-A1000 sounds. You can hate them with all your heart if you want.

Just saying I'm not agree in disqualifying headphones just because we prefer a different sound signature.

 

Best Luck!

post #1100 of 2198
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Originally Posted by bogi View Post
 

I owned DT880 600 Ohm for a year and I had HI2050 at my home for a week of testing. I found DT880 as overall better headphones, more exact, with much better soundstage. HI2050 sounded me as 150 EUR headphones and DT880 as 250 EUR category. My meaning is that HI2050 are awesome for their price, but they aren't at the level of >200 EUR headphones.

 

I compared also DT880/600, HE-500 and T1. My result here was the same, T1 are better than DT880 in every aspect.

 

I mean also that Xiang Sheng DAC-01A could result to wiping differences between these headphones. When detail level is missing, differences aren't so evident and lack of detail clearly affects soundstage presentation. That price is too low for good quality DAC+AMP combo. I don't expect the USB transport and DAC section to perform on a level suitable for higher class headphones. I mean also that cheap tube amplifiers couldn't be suitable to match the quality of headphones like T1.


I agree what you said right there. . Comparing hi2050 was possible because performance level between dt880 and hi2050 is like comparing 150 and 250 euro headphones. Dt880's are definately a better headphone...in my comparison I preferred it over hi2050 with most of the tracks. But still quite even performances. Anyway about T1. I don't think that calling T1 a mix of hd600 and dt880 is close. T1 definately doesn't have the warmth of hd600 or hi2050. It is more of a neutral sound, and neutral in a good way. When bass is called for it has loads off bass (unlike dt880) when bass is not in the song T1 doesn't add any of it into the song (unlike dx1000). I feel that Xiang Sheng does a fine job driving T1...it should be more efficient than dt880 due to the technology used so it makes sense. Nonetheless I will be getting a better amp for T1. It deserves one.  Comparing hi2050 and T1 would be ridicilous. The gap between them is so much. Even though hi2050 has sound signature I like pleasing I don't think there is a single track I would choose hi2050 over T1. End statement: Hi2050 compares ridiculously well against 200-300 euro headphones but thats it. Also I have xiang sheng connected coax and the amp section is ss and only the pre amp is tube.

post #1101 of 2198

Hi,

This seems to be the only thread especially related to Takstar.

I'm looking for an over the ear headphone that generally gives a nice bass punch (like S500) but still decent SQ.

I searched this thread and googled the net but can't really get any confirmation if the following cans are what I am looking for.  

The 2050 are discussed a bit but I am getting some conflicting opinions on it.

I'm looking at Takstar 2000, 2050 and 5000 which are all under $30 USD. 


Edited by onlynormalone - 11/12/13 at 12:34am
post #1102 of 2198
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Originally Posted by onlynormalone View Post
 

Hi,

This seems to be the only thread especially related to Takstar.

I'm looking for an over the ear headphone that generally gives a nice bass punch (like S500) but still decent SQ.

I searched this thread and googled the net but can't really get any confirmation if the following cans are what I am looking for.  

The 2050 are discussed a bit but I am getting some conflicting opinions on it.

I'm looking at Takstar 2000, 2050 and 5000 which are all under $30 USD. 

Under $30? Where did you find them for that cheap? The HI2050's are semi-open and while the bass is tight, it doesn't hit like I think you're looking for. The 2000's are closed and might have some better bass punch, or you could check out the Gemini HSR1000 (this is a re-branding of the Takstar Pro 80, they're the same phone):

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gemini-Gemini-DJ-HSR-1000-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones-Black-/370837185581?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item56579e642d

 

Or even better, the new HD5500 which is a higher end can apparently geared toward the EDM crowd. It's a little more than your $30 price tag though, shipping at $76.85 at the moment:

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Takstar-hd-5500-stereo-earphones-NEW-Dynamic-Stereo-Headphones-Earphones-Professional-Audio-Monitoring-For-PC-DJ/1334740269.html

bhazard posted the only impression I've even seen of this headphone, so maybe he could help you figure out if it's right for you.

 

post #1103 of 2198
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Originally Posted by dirtythekid View Post
 

Under $30? Where did you find them for that cheap? The HI2050's are semi-open and while the bass is tight, it doesn't hit like I think you're looking for. The 2000's are closed and might have some better bass punch, or you could check out the Gemini HSR1000 (this is a re-branding of the Takstar Pro 80, they're the same phone):

Thanks. I'm on a visit in China at the moment and I'm stocking up :) I just bought JVC S500 for $39 USD from an importer but then I was at a local store and saw the Takstar 2000 for $25 USD so I started to look on head-fi for some references. Seemily what some people are paying with shipping it would seem dumb to pass up on some great Takstar deals while here.

 

Though the 2050's aren't as bass heavy I'm tempted to buy them as they might be a good movie / pc headphone with a more balanced sound(?). Can't go wrong for $28 USD. Either that or spend $39 USD on the Pro 80's or 5500's.

post #1104 of 2198
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Originally Posted by onlynormalone View Post
 

Thanks. I'm on a visit in China at the moment and I'm stocking up :) I just bought JVC S500 for $39 USD from an importer but then I was at a local store and saw the Takstar 2000 for $25 USD so I started to look on head-fi for some references. Seemily what some people are paying with shipping it would seem dumb to pass up on some great Takstar deals while here.

 

Though the 2050's aren't as bass heavy I'm tempted to buy them as they might be a good movie / pc headphone with a more balanced sound(?). Can't go wrong for $28 USD. Either that or spend $39 USD on the Pro 80's or 5500's.

Haha well I guess that makes my links somewhat obsolete. Hmm by balanced, do you mean neutral? The HI2050 is fairly neutral with some emphasis on the high end, but you should know that being a semi-open headphone, it really does leak a lot of sound and let a lot of sound in, so steer clear if that's an issue. AFAIK, the Pro 80 is the exact same headphone as the HI2050 aside from a few differences. Coiled cable, pleather pads, and a closed cup for more isolation. For what it's worth, I would personally go for the HD5500. Seems like it's a little higher up on Takstar's list and you'll save the most money on it. I'm jealous of your access to all those Chi-fi goodies.

post #1105 of 2198

I like the Pro 80 over the 2050. Not as harsh and better bass extension.

 

I also have the S500. If you want bass like that, get the 5500 or 6000. The 5500 is like $44 or so in China (i got hosed paying an "early adopter" fee before learning of Taobao.

 

I like the 5500 the best of all Takstar headphones, even more than the 6000. I posted frequency response graphs earlier.

post #1106 of 2198
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Originally Posted by onlynormalone View Post
 

Thanks. I'm on a visit in China at the moment and I'm stocking up :)...

 

...spend $39 USD on the Pro 80's or 5500's.

Yo man hook me up with a pair of $40 Pro 80's would ya? Bring em back and we will work out the deal to ship them my way. :L3000:  

post #1107 of 2198
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

Yo man hook me up with a pair of $40 Pro 80's would ya? Bring em back and we will work out the deal to ship them my way. :L3000:  

That eBay link I posted has the Gemini HSR-1000 (same headphone) for $50 with free shipping, the extra $10 has gotta be better than luggage/shipping troubles for our Chi-fi ambassador. 

post #1108 of 2198

Yep, if he were to bring extras back the 5500's would be a better choice, since there's no $50 source for them in the US!

post #1109 of 2198
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Originally Posted by dirtythekid View Post

That eBay link I posted has the Gemini HSR-1000 (same headphone) for $50 with free shipping, the extra $10 has gotta be better than luggage/shipping troubles for our Chi-fi ambassador. 
Yes Indeed!
I wouldn't want to burden anyone with dragging back headphones from the other side of the world if clones can be had off eBay... biggrin.gif

But if he was going to bring back a big box of the 5500's he could sell them easy with some extra for his troubles. biggrin.gif
post #1110 of 2198

It's lonely here in HD5500 land. These are basshead wonders, yet they do awesome with metal too.

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