As I wrote earlier they are very different when you get them closer than 1 meter..
I can say the same "it is a copy thing" about every headphone out there, there is one original, the ones they used in the 2.WW..
If some of you instead of just yelling "copy", got you fingers in a pair you would notice that the pads is mounted different, they do not clash with the hinges, like Beyers does..
The Wire from cup to cup, is not just resting underneath the padding, but are commin out the plasticblok at each end of the headband.
The headband has a thicker padding that does not get sticky and yucky over time, like some does (DT880)
If we go even closer in you would find out, that these are put toogether with screws instead of just pressed together like a cheap toy, like the beyers..
If you were to look at the driver you would notice it is much much bigger than the drivers in DT880 53mm instead of 40mm, does not sound like much, but it gives almost double membrane area..
If you were to remove the baffle you would notice that the cup is like an amphiteater, with levels, not just a cup..
If you then after your examination would put them on your head, you would be amazed about just how good the sound..
But of course it is easier and cheaper just screaming copy and close your eyes for anything else than the "Accepted brands"
Please note I am not bashing Beyers I got several of their phones and really like them, so I am not badmouthing beyer, just trying to explain that they really are different and are NOT a copy..
Also this post is not directed at anyone personal, I just find it so sad that people just contribute by writing copy this and copy that and completely forget what this hobby is about, getting good sound from headphone, but of course the "copy" and howl with the pack is so much easier and comfier than being open to new stuff..
Anyway What do I care ?? I enjoy the absolutely best headphone under 50$ , while you are busy trashing things you never seen or heard..