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post #106 of 1675

To those who own these headphones and have had experience with M50s, which would be a better headphone to begin with the whole hi-fi world?  I'm not a bass head by any means if that helps

post #107 of 1675

Well, information finally shows up on EzyParcels. I don't know what it means, but it now says:

 

ITEM LODGED INTO DESTINATION MAIL HUB LOCAL POSTAL AGENT

post #108 of 1675

It's still "not found" on that site for me.

post #109 of 1675
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Originally Posted by hans030390 View Post

I'm hoping these will improve with burn in. They don't sound that impressive out of the box. They have a somewhat bloated, thick sound. Many parts of the sound are just...strange. Probably has something to do with that weird bass hump starting around 200Hz and extending below, if the FA-003 graphs are anything to go by. Drums sound artificial. Certain elements of the sound are very nice. Good soundstage and imaging, though a lot of things sound unnaturally far away.

 

Keep in mind these are initial impressions. I literally just opened up the box and played a few tunes. I'll be burning them in for sure. They have a lot of potential and a lot of good qualities, but the just sound a bit weird compared to my modded T50RPs out of the box. I have a good feeling about these, and I will most definitely warm up to them I think.

 

They also aren't very comfortable. Earpads are kind of hard. Very strong clamping force. I bet this will improve over time, and I plan on stretching these out a bit.

 

They seem to feel better after a few minutes. I think the body heat from your head softens the earpads quite a bit, which might also lead to better sound.


 

Interesting as I don't hear any of the problems you're having, then again I received them already with 250+ hours on them. As for them impressing out of the box, they're very neutral so the only way they're going to impress is through the subtleties. 

post #110 of 1675

I've been going back and forth between the HE-300's and the HM5's for a bit. Bear in mind that this is unamped so far and the whole open vs. closed thing, but my first impression is that the hype about the HM5/FA-003's or whatever being comparable to ~$300 cans is not unfounded.


Edited by manveru - 12/22/11 at 10:10pm
post #111 of 1675

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Originally Posted by keanex View Post

Interesting as I don't hear any of the problems you're having, then again I received them already with 250+ hours on them. As for them impressing out of the box, they're very neutral so the only way they're going to impress is through the subtleties. 

 

I am definitely burning them in before jumping to conclusions, but so far, they definitely aren't neutral. The bass is too thick and boomy below that dip at 300Hz. 

post #112 of 1675
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Originally Posted by manveru View Post

I've been going back and forth between the HE-300's and the HM5's for a bit. Bear in mind that this is unamped so far and the whole open vs. closed thing, but my first impression is that the hype about the HM5/FA-003's or whatever being comparable to ~$300 cans is not unfounded.


Double negative, nice! So you're saying HM5s are comparable to your HE-300?

 

post #113 of 1675
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Double negative, nice! So you're saying HM5s are comparable to your HE-300?


That's my early first impression anyway. Also don't want to jump to any conclusions. I'm wondering if the balance will change once I get a chance to amp them. Burning and listening as I type. They both definitely have their own unique properties which set them apart from each other, but so far I'd say yes. I don't feel like one is very significantly lesser in quality than the other.

 

Also I agree with hans030390 about the bass being thicker than I expected. I wouldn't say it's too much though. I kind of like it. Need to listen more to discern its true nature though.


Edited by manveru - 12/22/11 at 11:52pm
post #114 of 1675

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Originally Posted by manveru View Post

That's my early first impression anyway. Also don't want to jump to any conclusions. I'm wondering if the balance will change once I get a chance to amp them. Burning and listening as I type. They both definitely have their own unique properties which set them apart from each other, but so far I'd say yes. I don't feel like one is significantly lesser in quality than the other.

 

Also I agree with hans030390 about the bass being thicker than I expected. I wouldn't say it's too much though. I kind of like it. Need to listen more to discern its true nature though.


I think once you get used to having flatter bass that still extends deep and punches hard, it's very noticeable that the HM5s are not neutral due to the dip at 300Hz and the bass hump below it. Everything else seems to be relatively in place, but the boomy bass and other slight imperfections in the sound combine together to make a slightly weird listening presentation.

 

However, I've been listening a lot to my modded T50RPs. I thought maybe I was fooling myself into thinking the mods I did for the T50RPs actually sounded good. But, after listening to the HM5s, I really feel like my modded T50RPs have spoiled me. If a properly modded pair of T50RPs really touches on the league of higher end orthodynamics, then my thoughts on the HM5s might be too harsh.

 

Like I said, though, I'm going to burn them in for a long while before making any definitive statements about the HM5s. I may also try applying some Dynamat and adhesive acoustic foam in the cups and perhaps some Dynamat near the driver if I still do not find the sound to be the way I like it. I've heard people have had great results with these types of mods on these cans!

 

post #115 of 1675

I'm making a DIY stand, can any of you tell me the height of the HM5s (from underside of the headbands to lowest part where the cups touch each other). Basically, the vertical measurement when HM5 stand up straight, if that makes any sense.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hans030390 View Post

However, I've been listening a lot to my modded T50RPs. I thought maybe I was fooling myself into thinking the mods I did for the T50RPs actually sounded good. But, after listening to the HM5s, I really feel like my modded T50RPs have spoiled me. If a properly modded pair of T50RPs really touches on the league of higher end orthodynamics, then my thoughts on the HM5s might be too harsh.

 

Which method did you use to mod your T50RPs? Do you know if yours is similar to any of the ones whose graphs are available at innerfidelity? While stock T50RPs are very bass-shy with almost no sub-bass, the bass of the modded versions can vary from very bass-shy like stock to neutral. I ask because sometimes people here regard bass-light headphones to be neutral just because the punch is tight.

 

 

post #116 of 1675

Oh damn. So apparently that "lodged" thing was in Singapore.

 

My HM5s went from HK to SG and are now sitting there. Agh!

post #117 of 1675
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I think once you get used to having flatter bass that still extends deep and punches hard, it's very noticeable that the HM5s are not neutral due to the dip at 300Hz and the bass hump below it. Everything else seems to be relatively in place, but the boomy bass and other slight imperfections in the sound combine together to make a slightly weird listening presentation.

 

 


Wasn't trying to say that they are flat or neutral in that area. There is something a tad odd about it. I'm just saying that while perhaps not perfect, it's not a sound that bothers me too much personally. I'll just end up equalizing them to taste later anyway. Still only a few hours out of the box.

 
post #118 of 1675
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I'm making a DIY stand, can any of you tell me the height of the HM5s (from underside of the headbands to lowest part where the cups touch each other). Basically, the vertical measurement when HM5 stand up straight, if that makes any sense.


Roughly 8 inches, not including the cables sticking out.

post #119 of 1675

Heya,

 

FA003_stand.jpg

 

I built one from some oak.

 

The headphone from the base of the cup to the top of the headband is roughly 8 inches. I separated the cups by 2.5 inches with a pillar of oak as seen above.

 

Very best,

post #120 of 1675

Thanks guys. That's very helpful.

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