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post #76 of 161
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

I ordered the pleather pads few weeks ago and didn't get the insert. Those pads are too thin and skew the sound as the driver is so close to your ear. Thankfully the pleather pads were cheap...but crap. I would have prefered to pay a bit more and get better quality. The first velours also seems to be all slightly different in thickness. That why I decided to switch to the Beyer.



Do the Beyers fit in the HE6?

post #77 of 161

The Beyers are a couple of  mm smaller so I had to shave off a bid of the new plastic ring that came with the pleather pads. A few minute jobs with scissors.

post #78 of 161

 

 

New Pleather pads with foam rings inside..                           New Velour pads left and old right..

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Some mods done with the old Pleather pads (inserted some                     HE-500 with Beyer Pads..

foam to make it thicker)

 

post #79 of 161
Originally Posted by keph View Post

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Some mods done with the old Pleather pads (inserted some                 

foam to make it thicker)

Looks a lot like the "coax pad mod" I did on the ATH-M50S. I like what it does for the M50Ss a lot. But I'm going to keep the HE-500 stock for now (stock v2 cable, stock v2 pads, etc.).

post #80 of 161

While the HE-500 are more palatable at this price and sound considerably better than the lower tier of headphones (HD650, K702) they have a cheaply built feel overall compared to the LCD2, mine had pleather everything (perhaps I just missed the cutoff for actual leather pads, but there's no leather anywhere to be seen), the stock cable is not as well QA'd as other stock cables (the wires have memory and are loosely/unevenly braided) and the sound just does not seem natural like the Audeze, just unlikeable by comparison.  They are hard to drive despite being the easy to drive model and they are heavy/uncomfortable as the cups seem to be made entirely of metal.  If you can afford the extra $300 for LCD2 you'd be nuts to take these over them.  The only reason I'm probably keeping these is to test cables on.    


Edited by scootermafia - 12/19/11 at 3:39am
post #81 of 161

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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post

While the HE-500 are more palatable at this price and sound considerably better than the lower tier of headphones (HD650, K702) they have a cheaply built feel overall compared to the LCD2, mine had pleather everything (perhaps I just missed the cutoff for actual leather pads, but there's no leather anywhere to be seen),    


 

There is no leather pads for HE-500 (never were) only  pleather, which is artificial leather (protein made). 

post #82 of 161
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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post

While the HE-500 are more palatable at this price and sound considerably better than the lower tier of headphones (HD650, K702) they have a cheaply built feel overall compared to the LCD2, mine had pleather everything (perhaps I just missed the cutoff for actual leather pads, but there's no leather anywhere to be seen), the stock cable is not as well QA'd as other stock cables (the wires have memory and are loosely/unevenly braided) and the sound just does not seem natural like the Audeze, just unlikeable by comparison.  They are hard to drive despite being the easy to drive model and they are heavy/uncomfortable as the cups seem to be made entirely of metal.  If you can afford the extra $300 for LCD2 you'd be nuts to take these over them.  The only reason I'm probably keeping these is to test cables on.    



I have been using my Decware taboo and CSP2 amps to drive them and these are much easier than the HE6 to drive. I have tried them on the marantz SA8004,Pioneer SX650 and they were being driven but they do like my taboo better. I am using the velour pads and the pair i have is well finished and the cable braid is as you say on the HE6 cable i was sent but the sound I find opposite of your pair. Pretty much I hear what been described in my review but I will have 20 people here for my mini meet in January and I will once again be able to compare the LCD2 and LCD3 to the HE500 and have some more opinions and will update the review after that time with a followup.

post #83 of 161
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 Pretty much I hear what been described in my review but I will have 20 people here for my mini meet in January and I will once again be able to compare the LCD2 and LCD3 to the HE500 and have some more opinions and will update the review after that time with a followup.


It would be very useful, thank you in advance!

 

post #84 of 161

That would be great Frank!

post #85 of 161
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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post

While the HE-500 are more palatable at this price and sound considerably better than the lower tier of headphones (HD650, K702) they have a cheaply built feel overall compared to the LCD2, mine had pleather everything (perhaps I just missed the cutoff for actual leather pads, but there's no leather anywhere to be seen), the stock cable is not as well QA'd as other stock cables (the wires have memory and are loosely/unevenly braided) and the sound just does not seem natural like the Audeze, just unlikeable by comparison.  They are hard to drive despite being the easy to drive model and they are heavy/uncomfortable as the cups seem to be made entirely of metal.  If you can afford the extra $300 for LCD2 you'd be nuts to take these over them.  The only reason I'm probably keeping these is to test cables on.    


Head Fi has lost it's way in recent times.  I am not sure if I am alone in my view but I do not want natural sounding headphones.  If I want natural sound, I will get some really great full size speakers.  I prefer a less natural, more musical set of headphones with as pure sound quality as possible.  Musical and well rounded are the last terms I would use to describe the LCD2 and I feel absolutely opposite of your view in anyone choosing the HE500 for $300 less than the LCD2.  With that extra $300 you get less comfort, a much more poorly designed headphone all around, god awful pads that are not removable and most importantly a set of headphones that simply does not sound so good for as many genres of music as the Hifiman.  Sure, the view is subjective in that the LCD2 is not well rounded in terms of sonics, but there are also some people in this world who like to eat raw potatoes and think they taste amazing.  Who am I to argue with them?

 


Edited by swbf2cheater - 12/19/11 at 4:54pm
post #86 of 161

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Why so many people are raving about the LCD-2 is still a mystery to me. They are good headphone with a peculiar sound but incredibly cumbersome. Personally I believe the HE-6 and HE-500 are quite a step above technically.

post #87 of 161

The HE-500 and the LCD-2 are both very good headphones. Doh. Some say they are quite similar. Yes; if compared to e.g. the AKG K701. No; if comparing the HE-500 and LCD-2 only towards each other. No headphone performs the best on every parameter, but all headphones shine on some parameters. Often, choosing a headphone is like selecting a good compromise. This ain't a competion of which headphone is the "best". It is all up to the readers on subject forum to interpret the usefull info and filter out the competition statements. As far as the HE-6 goes into this context: The HE-6 is so different to both the HE-500 and the LCD-2 that it is actually no use in comparing the latter two to the HE-6.

 

Sometimes the LCD-2 shines. Sometimes the HE-500. If they indeed were so similar as some other threads indicate - I would have sold one of them, but have no plans in doing so.

 

tl;dr: If you don't quite like the LCD-2? Try the HE-500. If you HATE the LCD-2? The HE-500 is not your next headphone either.

 


Edited by Loevhagen - 12/20/11 at 9:08am
post #88 of 161


 

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Originally Posted by Loevhagen View Post

The HE-500 and the LCD-2 are both very good headphones. Doh. Some say they are quite similar. Yes; if compared to e.g. the AKG K701. No; if comparing the HE-500 and LCD-2 only towards each other. No headphone performs the best on every parameter, but all headphones shine on some parameters. Often, choosing a headphone is like selecting a good compromise. This ain't a competion of which headphone is the "best". It is all up to the readers on subject forum to interpret the usefull info and filter out the competition statements. As far as the HE-6 goes into this context: The HE-6 is so different to both the HE-500 and the LCD-2 that it is actually no use in comparing the latter two to the HE-6.

 

Sometimes the LCD-2 shines. Sometimes the HE-500. If they indeed were so similar as some other threads indicate - I would have sold one of them, but have no plans in doing so.

 

tl;dr: If you don't quite like the LCD-2? Try the HE-500. If you HATE the LCD-2? The HE-500 is not your next headphone either.

 


Word

 

 

post #89 of 161
Just sticking my head in to the HE-500 forum. Hello good folks.

I apologize if this has been mentioned before but today I purchased the October issue of HiFi+ magazine a British Hifi mag. Always liked it (even though we get it late here in Canada!) Anyway, They have a wonderful review of your headphone. The reviewer, a British HiFi magazine legend Alan Sircom says it is the best headphone for sale, beating in his opinion his beloved HD800.

Here is a link to the Magazine though sadly I cannot find an online version of the review.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/hifi_plus/83/
post #90 of 161

For me the million dollar question is still how do the LCD-2 compare to the HE-500, because unlike above posters I have no intention of owning them both. My K1000's still rule the world, and is just looking for a number 2. To me the basic characteristics seem that the 500 has a little more soundstage, is brighter, works better with classical and is more comfortable. The LCD-2 is nicer build, very good bass and warm sounding. They both have the planar advantages: the exceptional midrange and speed.

 

Someone having owned or owning both, how correct are my observations so far?

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