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Wow. That's a very shady business practice that will not benefit them in the long term. How can any serious audiophile respect that ridiculous explanation? It's like they're begging people to use torrent sites...

Well, he was straight forward about the situation in the interview he gave, and stated that often HDTracks does not receive information from the record labels regarding the process of mastering the hi-res versions. To be fair, several recordings do give detailed info, for instance one Stevie Wonder album was remastered from original tapes... But on the whole, very little info is given, and frequency analyses of many tracks that I've seen posted show sharp filters cutting off at 22khz. 

Even so, I think HDTracks should post "mastering source unavailable" or as much info as they do have. I certainly wouldn't want to pay for upsampling that most of my music players could do on their own.

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A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

 

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.

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Do any of you hear your own heart beat while laying down with the Custom IEMs in? I consistently got that with the 8As lol. Not sure if that is normal or not?
 

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Do any of you hear your own heart beat while laying down with the Custom IEMs in? I consistently got that with the 8As lol. Not sure if that is normal or not?
 

Perfectly normal with good isolation, I get the same with universals and earplugs. smile.gif

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Perfectly normal with good isolation, I get the same with universals and earplugs. smile.gif


Ok just that is a first for me. Never got that with universal though :P. The problem is it is very distracting as I could hear and feel my heartbeat during music lol. Had to turn the volume up higher to drown out my own heartbeat lmao.


Edited by lee730 - 3/12/13 at 2:36am
post #5931 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

 

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.


That is an excellent read, I knew most of the information but from various sources so it was nice to see it all in one spot written in an easily digestible manner.

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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

 

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.

Essentially, this:

"So, 24bit does add more 'resolution' compared to 16bit but this added resolution doesn't mean higher quality, it just means we can encode a larger dynamic range. This is the misunderstanding made by many. There are no extra magical properties, nothing which the science does not understand or cannot measure. The only difference between 16bit and 24bit is 48dB of dynamic range (8bits x 6dB = 48dB) and nothing else. This is not a question for interpretation or opinion, it is the provable, undisputed logical mathematics which underpins the very existence of digital audio"

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I had read that article previously but forgot about it. It makes me wonder why 192kHz is used at all - are manufacturers (like Astell&Kern)  just capitalizing on the oft-assumed "more is better" thinking of the average audiophile? Are they, the manufacturers, even aware of this? Or is this just not widely accepted as irrefutable scientific fact (by audiophiles who have already sunk large sums of money into systems with 24/192 capability or the magazines that live off of the ad revenue of the companies that build them) as of yet? It's ponderous stuff, but thanks for the reminder.

 

Also, I think I spoke out of school when I came down hard on HD Tracks. I didn't have all of the facts, so my response was definitely heavy-handed. I still think they're not being completely forthcoming, so I'll stop short of apologizing.

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Do any of you hear your own heart beat while laying down with the Custom IEMs in? I consistently got that with the 8As lol. Not sure if that is normal or not?
 

I thought that was all artists paying homage to Pink Floyd by copying the opening to "Dark Side of the Moon". 

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Exactly. As always, the more=better arguments works with most consumers. More megapixels, megahertz, memory, watts, bits, khz whatever.:)

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I had read that article previously but forgot about it. It makes me wonder why 192kHz is used at all - are manufacturers (like Astell&Kern)  just capitalizing on the oft-assumed "more is better" thinking of the average audiophile?

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Thanks for the link. This is also an excellent read and we all here should be reminded that there's no right/wrong, good side/bad side, but a well balanced mindset, picking the best from pure subjectivism and objectivism should be the best choice.

 

http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/03/04/audio-subjectivists-vs-audio-objectivists-a-false-dichotomy/

 

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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

 

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.

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Thanks for the link. This is also an excellent read and we all here should be reminded that there's no right/wrong, good side/bad side, but a well balanced mindset, picking the best from pure subjectivism and objectivism should be the best choice.

http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/03/04/audio-subjectivists-vs-audio-objectivists-a-false-dichotomy/
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.

Agreed, very interesting read. I did skim a bit in the early theory bit, but the rest of it made sense to me, given what little technical knowledge I have. It still sounds like 88.2 has some benefits over the normal 44.1, but that a solid 44.1 would work just as well. However, I now have absolutely no desire to try out 192, not that I had much of one before.

I do love the way my 8.A sounds, and I do think there's a bit of a shift in how it sounds now that I've had it. It just feels a bit more full. The mids have settled into place a bit more than they were before and everything else has rounded out rather nicely. I don't know how much of this is the headphone or my ears getting used to them (both literally and metaphorically). Either way, I'm rather pleased with my purchase and my only problem, at this point, is that I don't really use them at home given I don't have a good amp for them there.

That may change in the coming months, however.
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

A truly great (and unbiased!) article about high res audio here: http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/

 

It really should be required reading here on Head-Fi.

I agree.  No set of specifications on an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper (or some glossy pamphlet) should be able to convince me how something sounds (but you know I am influenced).  The first listen to some different/exciting/feature laden piece of equipment should not sway my decision (but you know my interest is piqued, remember the JBL L-100?).  At the end of the day I have to trust the pink things on either side of my head.  And sometimes they don't work so well.

 

My friend Loren says there are only two important specifications in audio printed on the sales literature - the dimensions and the weight.  Will it fit on the shelf, and will the shelf or floor support it. 

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Has anyone tested the Heir 4.A vs the Vsonic Gr07?

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I can't seem to hear a lot of bass at all from 4A. I know 4A is supposed to not have much bass at all but really.. I can't hear any. Could this be a bad fit? Anyone want to send me some music that I can listen to so that I can test the bass on 4A? I can reference my hd 650s which has plenty of bass.

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