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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post


and dynamics have better timbre and better coherency and better real bass energy with a vented design

 

AND AND AND

EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS POST

http://www.head-fi.org/t/584763/heir-audio-the-appreciation-thread/5580#post_9196295

 

DEEP DOWN THE WIZARD WANTS TO MAKE A UNIQUE, GROUNDBREAKING, TOP-TIER DYNAMIC DRIVER CUSTOM WORTHY OF HEIR AUDIO

 

WE JUST HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW LOUDLY ENOUGH

 

The first day I got my 8a I listened to The Pretenders song "Only Human on the Inside". I felt the bass in my feet. (how do he do dat???) I, for one, do not see the need for a vented dynamic driver (if you read between the lines, I do not want to pine away for another $1500.00 headphone). The coherence of the 8a, making 8 drivers harmonize is no mean feat, especially as FC points out, the speed of the drivers might be difficult to match. Remember the Infinity ServoStatik and the IRS? Alright, I'll give you it's 25 or 30 years ago and technology has come a long way. I can imagine Arnie Nudell and Cary Christie running into brick walls with those things. Imagine stereo electrostatic panels and a single 18 inch woofer
post #5762 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post


and dynamics have better timbre and better coherency and better real bass energy with a vented design

 

AND AND AND

EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS POST

http://www.head-fi.org/t/584763/heir-audio-the-appreciation-thread/5580#post_9196295

 

DEEP DOWN THE WIZARD WANTS TO MAKE A UNIQUE, GROUNDBREAKING, TOP-TIER DYNAMIC DRIVER CUSTOM WORTHY OF HEIR AUDIO

 

WE JUST HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW LOUDLY ENOUGH

 

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The first day I got my 8a I listened to The Pretenders song "Only Human on the Inside". I felt the bass in my feet. (how do he do dat???) I, for one, do not see the need for a vented dynamic driver (if you read between the lines, I do not want to pine away for another $1500.00 headphone). The coherence of the 8a, making 8 drivers harmonize is no mean feat, especially as FC points out, the speed of the drivers might be difficult to match. Remember the Infinity ServoStatik and the IRS? Alright, I'll give you it's 25 or 30 years ago and technology has come a long way. I can imagine Arnie Nudell and Cary Christie running into brick walls with those things. Imagine stereo electrostatic panels and a single 18 inch woofer

An amazing single dynamic made of unicorn furs (or another special material) and a truly high-end design by the Wizard would be worth it. He'd be able to find a high-end driver the like of which has never been seen for a hybrid if that's what he wants.

 

Although, you raise a good point, an Heir audio electrostat ciem would be welcome as well*. For now, however, a top-tier dynamic ciem is a good thing to pester the Wizard about.

 

 

 

*I'm kidding--OR AM I?


Edited by Kunlun - 3/3/13 at 7:04pm
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The first day I got my 8a I listened to The Pretenders song "Only Human on the Inside". I felt the bass in my feet. (how do he do dat???) I, for one, do not see the need for a vented dynamic driver (if you read between the lines, I do not want to pine away for another $1500.00 headphone). The coherence of the 8a, making 8 drivers harmonize is no mean feat, especially as FC points out, the speed of the drivers might be difficult to match. Remember the Infinity ServoStatik and the IRS? Alright, I'll give you it's 25 or 30 years ago and technology has come a long way. I can imagine Arnie Nudell and Cary Christie running into brick walls with those things. Imagine stereo electrostatic panels and a single 18 inch woofer


While the 8As are really good IEMs the best bass reproduction I have heard comes from a hybrid IEM. Simply put the 8A bass doesn't compare in those terms. It is what it is. Plus dynamic drivers continue to improve including speed. I won't be surprised in the future about dynamics even beating BAs at their own game. So far the best I've heard though is from combining the two into one.


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 7:56pm
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While the 8As are really good IEMs the best bass reproduction I have heard comes from a hybrid IEM. Simply put the 8A bass doesn't compare in those terms. It is what it is. Plus dynamic drivers continue to improve including speed. I won't be surprised in the future about dynamics even beating BAs at their own game. So far the best I've heard though is from combining the two into one.

 

I am so sorry I told my accountant about Head-Fi!
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I am so sorry I told my accountant about Head-Fi!


lmao :).

 

My favorite characteristic about the 8As though is with its treble and how it portrays it in such a silky-smooth way (that draws my attention to it even more so due to this). I love smooth treble :). Plus it is quite mid-centric which is refreshing to me.


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 8:31pm
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While the 8As are really good IEMs the best bass reproduction I have heard comes from a hybrid IEM. Simply put the 8A bass doesn't compare in those terms. It is what it is. Plus dynamic drivers continue to improve including speed. I won't be surprised in the future about dynamics even beating BAs at their own game. So far the best I've heard though is from combining the two into one.

How would you define their respective bass aspects? smily_headphones1.gif
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How would you define their respective bass aspects? smily_headphones1.gif


There is a good amount of sub bass and quite a bit of mid bass as well. It's not overbearing by any means.  However, I do find that depending on what you pair them with the bass can be overwhelming at times depending on the songs. So I find the 8As to be quite hard to find a proper match, synergy wise. Only the N1 player has left me impressed with this IEM for music . Nothing else has done that (not so impressed on my Triad L3/DACportLX, Studio V, iphone4). Otherwise I find them most suitable for gaming and movies....


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 8:37pm
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While the 8As are really good IEMs the best bass reproduction I have heard comes from a hybrid IEM. Simply put the 8A bass doesn't compare in those terms. It is what it is. Plus dynamic drivers continue to improve including speed. I won't be surprised in the future about dynamics even beating BAs at their own game. So far the best I've heard though is from combining the two into one.

Lemme guess, the 1plus2? :)

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Lemme guess, the 1plus2? :)


lmao. How did you know? :P.

 

Still their presentations are very different so it's quite refreshing to go from one to the other. Although that can also be a bit irritating initially having to get reacclimated to the signatures :P.


Edited by lee730 - 3/3/13 at 9:25pm
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I am so sorry I told my accountant about Head-Fi!

It's important to remember your accountant is an employee and can only dispense advice, not orders or commandments.

Just stick your fingers in your ears and go, "Nunny-nunny-nah-nah can't hear you!"
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Guys guys, looks like my turn has finally come. I couldn't sleep so I decided to mess around on my iPhone and bammo I get an email from Heir with pics showing my brand spanking new 4As and asking for confirmation before shipping


So what do you guys think?
Edited by DigitalFreak - 3/4/13 at 1:09am
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Hit the confirm button, they're a keeper!

 

Is that solid black?

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Hit the confirm button, they're a keeper!

Is that solid black?

Confirm button? What confirm button? I typed out they looked beautiful and asked they send them out right away and send me the tracking info once they shipped and sent the reply back to sender

The shells are black mamba, they're supposed to be dark with a touch of purple and are barely translucent. From the pics I really like how the coloured canals turned out. They don't look sloppy and seem to nicely compliment the darker mamba shell. I was thinking of going with dark smoke but decided on the mamba thinking it would look cooler having a purplish tinge when the light hit them a certain way.
Edited by DigitalFreak - 3/4/13 at 2:32am
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OMG!!! I just did an A-B compare with my speaker system (B&W CM7 bi-amped via Yamaha RX-V 3800) and my B&W P5, plugging it in and out while the music was playing.

I knew those are not the best headphones, but with the direct A B comparison it just sounded as if I put in some $5 pods. Really really crappy.

 

Now waiting for my 8.A to do the same.;) Come on UPS! They should arrive this afternoon.

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Guys guys, looks like my turn has finally come. I couldn't sleep so I decided to mess around on my iPhone and bammo I get an email from Heir with pics showing my brand spanking new 4As and asking for confirmation before shipping


So what do you guys think?

 

Those are very nice DigitalFreak. Those are worthy of being called "Heir quality". Hoping my pair will reflect that once completed :).

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