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post #2611 of 7980

I'm afraid marble would shatter as it was being ground down to thinner dimensions.

 

But I do like the concept. 

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

post #2612 of 7980

I just wish I was filthy rich so I could keep re-doing my 8.A's as I keep coming up with cool design ideas I'd love to try out biggrin.gif

 

And I would need to order a second set, cause even a few days without them would be torture for me. FullCircle, if you ever come to Denmark drinks are on me.

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Problem with marble is it's veined and strength is probably inconsistent through cross-section. Also, like most metals they'll be good at retaining heat but feel horribly cold if you don't pre-warm them before you first insert them...

On the other hand, if you're CNCing customs, I wonder if hardwoods with dense grain, like ebony or koa, could work. Probably more fragile than acrylic, but not as brittle as marble.

I was investigating 3D printers a little while ago with the idea of fabbing up some IEM plugs, and one of the problems is the deposition method makes for a rough outer surface. So it's not impossible or even a bad idea, but you'll probably be in for a good deal of finishing work after the fabbing process. On the other hand, you could hypothetically shape them with sufficient inner detail to not need to insert tubing; the lower component could have the tubing pre-formed, requiring final assembly to amount to dropping the filters and drivers into their appropriately-sized holes, and then sealing them with a cap.

The result could potentially be cheaper than current processes, but of course wouldn't look half as good as Wizard's work.
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Problem with marble is it's veined and strength is probably inconsistent through cross-section. Also, like most metals they'll be good at retaining heat but feel horribly cold if you don't pre-warm them before you first insert them...
On the other hand, if you're CNCing customs, I wonder if hardwoods with dense grain, like ebony or koa, could work. Probably more fragile than acrylic, but not as brittle as marble.
I was investigating 3D printers a little while ago with the idea of fabbing up some IEM plugs, and one of the problems is the deposition method makes for a rough outer surface. So it's not impossible or even a bad idea, but you'll probably be in for a good deal of finishing work after the fabbing process. On the other hand, you could hypothetically shape them with sufficient inner detail to not need to insert tubing; the lower component could have the tubing pre-formed, requiring final assembly to amount to dropping the filters and drivers into their appropriately-sized holes, and then sealing them with a cap.
The result could potentially be cheaper than current processes, but of course wouldn't look half as good as Wizard's work.

You just described the entirety of the CIEM industry.

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There are moments when I wish I was filthy rich. Because I just had an idea for some of the coolest CIEMs ever: Marble. Would probably be insanely difficult to work with but marble caps would be really, really cool. Something like a ghost black shell with a black marble with white veins for the cap.

 

     

 

     It could easily be done with fake marble, but useing fake materials for Heir Audio products just feels/sounds ....  wrong

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

post #2616 of 7980
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It could easily be done with fake marble, but useing fake materials for Heir Audio products just feels/sounds ....  wrong

 

I agree. It was just the idea of it would have been quite beautiful. Plus, if you ever pulled it off, it would be yet one more thing Heir has done that no one else has.
 
On another note, would granite be any better? It's not as brittle as marble.
 
post #2617 of 7980
Why not an all-carbon shell while we're at it?
post #2618 of 7980
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Why not an all-carbon shell while we're at it?

Am i the only one who is not a big fan of carbon fibber (maybe its because i once had a $100 pair of goggles made of it and they were rubbish). I think wood just generally looks classier than it!

post #2619 of 7980
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Am i the only one who is not a big fan of carbon fibber (maybe its because i once had a $100 pair of goggles made of it and they were rubbish). I think wood just generally looks classier than it!

i prefer aluminium brush faceplate with cut out =D

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i prefer aluminium brush faceplate with cut out =D

i agree i like this a lot more, but i mean wood come on, thats the way to go, look at the 4.Ai (and even more so the new ones), they = beauty!

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Am i the only one who is not a big fan of carbon fibber (maybe its because i once had a $100 pair of goggles made of it and they were rubbish). I think wood just generally looks classier than it!

I agree. I think wood looks alot better too. The pcb looks nice.
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Why not an all-carbon shell while we're at it?

 

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Am i the only one who is not a big fan of carbon fibber (maybe its because i once had a $100 pair of goggles made of it and they were rubbish). I think wood just generally looks classier than it!


I am guessing that FullCircle is partial to wood and wants to make wood the "Heir Look". Everyone else is doing carbon fiber and they all look similar. Wood is much more distinctive and unique. The idea is that if you see a wood IEM, you will think that must be an Heir Audio product.

 

I love the look of carbon fiber, but I think with all the cheesy carbon fiber things you see like phone cases, cheap car accents, etc. Carbon fiber doesn't have the same high end look as it did when only very expensive things had real carbon fiber.

 

I also hear that carbon fiber is harder to work with than wood.


Edited by darinf - 10/5/12 at 11:22am
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I am guessing that FullCircle is partial to wood and wants to make wood the "Hier Look". Everyone else is doing carbon fiber and they all look similar. Wood is much more distinctive and unique. The idea is that if you see a wood IEM, you will think that must be an Heir Audio product.

 

I love the look of carbon fiber, but I think with all the cheesy carbon fiber things you see like phone cases, cheap car accents, etc. Carbon fiber doesn't have the same high end look as it did when only very expensive things had real carbon fiber.

 

I also hear that carbon fiber is harder to work with than wood.

+1

 

I also love how with the wood it will always be different. I mean my 4.Ai is unique to next persons and there are even different batches of the burl used that have slightly different properties.

post #2624 of 7980
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Why not an all-carbon shell while we're at it?

 

second it!

seems you you and i are the only carbon fiber admirers haha

 

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I am guessing that FullCircle is partial to wood and wants to make wood the "Heir Look". Everyone else is doing carbon fiber and they all look similar. Wood is much more distinctive and unique. The idea is that if you see a wood IEM, you will think that must be an Heir Audio product.

 

I love the look of carbon fiber, but I think with all the cheesy carbon fiber things you see like phone cases, cheap car accents, etc. Carbon fiber doesn't have the same high end look as it did when only very expensive things had real carbon fiber.

 

I also hear that carbon fiber is harder to work with than wood.

 

i agree that heir is making wood their signature and even i admire some of their wood designs

but i like carbon fiber een better, which i think the younger generation will like more too

i dont see carbon fiber as cheap- if its high quality and matches with whats its on, then i think it looks great- like high end sports cars and smartphones

heir really looks their carbon fiber amazing and what i think separates it is how the shell colour comes through the gaps/ reflects different colours at different angles

post #2625 of 7980

I like Heir Audio woody models, and I like the colored carbon fiber models, and I like pretty much everything Wizard has created (even the stuff that sounds outlandish when you hear the description - ends up looking good in practice).

 

I think it's a mistake to define Heir by just a single material. It's the creativity, the broad range of options that they do so well, that really makes them who they are. There are other companies who can do certain things very well, but none have such a wide variety of options. 

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