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post #1861 of 7980
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

 

 

This post is making me have second, third, forth, fifth, etc thoughts about ordering the 3.Ai as I was planning, instead of the 4.Ai... redface.gif

Look up a man called Peter Diamandis.

Find his list of "Peter's Rules".

Pay attention to rule number two on that list. Or rule number fifteen, depending on your budget. biggrin.gif

post #1862 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

Look up a man called Peter Diamandis.

Find his list of "Peter's Rules".

Pay attention to rule number two on that list. Or rule number fifteen, depending on your budget. biggrin.gif

 

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If you're talking about Peter's Laws, I already knew them! It's a kind of Murphy's Laws nemesis! But I went and look up both those laws you mentioned, as I din't remember them...

About the number 2, it's a great rule indeed, but I just can fit one IEM in my budget, so I must apply number 15! And that's the problem, as were talking about audio/earing, which is very subjective, and to have clear thoughts about my choice, I needed to hear both the 3.Ai and the 4.Ai in order to make a good decision. So, as I can't hear them before I purchase any of the, it will always be kind of a blind shot... frown.gif

post #1863 of 7980
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

 

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If you're talking about Peter's Laws, I already knew them! It's a kind of Murphy's Laws nemesis! But I went and look up both those laws you mentioned, as I din't remember them...

About the number 2, it's a great rule indeed, but I just can fit one IEM in my budget, so I must apply number 15! And that's the problem, as were talking about audio/earing, which is very subjective, and to have clear thoughts about my choice, I needed to hear both the 3.Ai and the 4.Ai in order to make a good decision. So, as I can't hear them before I purchase any of the, it will always be kind of a blind shot... frown.gif

I have both with me here - swing by on your way from work! Portugal -> Denmark is like what... 2500km tops, right? Lemme know when you're here and I'll get the coffee brewing.

 

Both are very capable, but the 3.Ai goes deeper and has a slight (but not overpowering!) bass boost. Let me help you pick:

 

Who do you prefer listening to?

1#

A) Debussy

B) Deadmau5

 

2#

A) Ravel

B) Rammstein

 

3#

A) Fink

B) Faithless

 

4#

A) Louise Rogers

B) Lady Gaga

 

5#

A) Mark Knopfler

B) Massive Attack

 

Mostly A's? Get the 4.Ai.

Mostly B's? Get the 3.Ai.

post #1864 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

I haven't written the review yet - I wanted it to be a proper review after getting to know both, not just a list of first impressions smile.gif

 

They are both very detailed but their presentations are quite different from each other. The 8.A gives you just about every single bit of sound present on the recording but you have to listen for it. A relaxed presentation that I can enjoy for hours (they get 6-8 hours in my ears every single day) without fatigue. They never get as mellow and laid back as my HD650, they just strike a perfect balance for my needs and taste. The 8.A lets you lean back and relax, the 4.A(i) is another beast. It serves up all the details for you on a silver platter, forcing you to listen actively and focus on the music. Keith Jarrett's Köln Concert is amazingly good with the 4.Ai, so much detail, spatial information and a stunning sound of the piano. It feels like you're really at the concert, hovering 50cm above the piano. For rap, dancehall and electro I prefer the 3.Ai or my 8.A as they both extend deeper than the 4.A(i) and have a better bass slam. Oddly, I find myself reaching for the 4.Ai when listening to the album "All Drums Go To Hell" by Two Steps From Hell. An album with - you guessed it - lots and lots of drums. You know that track "Mombasa" from the Inception soundtrack by Hans Zimmer? The one where Leonardo DiCaprio is running for his life through Mombasa and there's just percussion everywhere? Yeah, imagine an entire album with just that. Back on track: The 4.Ai is very fast and accurate so while the 3.Ai extends deeper, I really like how the drums sound from the 4.Ai. Or I can reach for the 8.A and get the best of both then the price just tripled...

 

Would you consider the 4.A/Ai bass to be thin or anemic? How does the bass of the 4.A compare to the MEElec CC51? thx

post #1865 of 7980
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Originally Posted by sithjedi333 View Post

 

Would you consider the 4.A/Ai bass to be thin or anemic? How does the bass of the 4.A compare to the MEElec CC51? thx

Not thin or anemic at all. The 3.Ai just extends a bit deeper and has a slight bass boost. Just listened to some dancehall on the 4.Ai and they never came off as dull or anemic. The 3.Ai has more bass and extends deeper, the 4.Ai is more neutral.

post #1866 of 7980

ordered both the 3Ai and 4Ai.

big hole in pocket

post #1867 of 7980

couldnt resist

ordered 4a to go with my 8a

post #1868 of 7980
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Originally Posted by elysium1230 View Post

couldnt resist

ordered 4a to go with my 8a

 

Wow, I have another 'me' here biggrin.gif

I just did the same 10 days ago and can't wait for the 4a to arrive!

post #1869 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

I have both with me here - swing by on your way from work! Portugal -> Denmark is like what... 2500km tops, right? Lemme know when you're here and I'll get the coffee brewing.

 

Both are very capable, but the 3.Ai goes deeper and has a slight (but not overpowering!) bass boost. Let me help you pick:

 

Who do you prefer listening to?

1#

A) Debussy

B) Deadmau5

 

2#

A) Ravel

B) Rammstein

 

3#

A) Fink

B) Faithless

 

4#

A) Louise Rogers

B) Lady Gaga

 

5#

A) Mark Knopfler

B) Massive Attack

 

Mostly A's? Get the 4.Ai.

Mostly B's? Get the 3.Ai.

 

Ended up with the same amount of each... of course right?

 

But I guess the main thing I want is which one has more forward vocals/makes vocals "pop"? That would probably be the one I'd want to go with.

post #1870 of 7980
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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

 

Ended up with the same amount of each... of course right?

 

But I guess the main thing I want is which one has more forward vocals/makes vocals "pop"? That would probably be the one I'd want to go with.

4.Ai smile.gif

post #1871 of 7980

4.Ai x 2

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post #1872 of 7980
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Originally Posted by FullCircle View Post

4.Ai x 2

 

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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

4.Ai smile.gif

 

Well, that just means I've gotta save up more money then. Damn.

post #1873 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

I have both with me here - swing by on your way from work! Portugal -> Denmark is like what... 2500km tops, right? Lemme know when you're here and I'll get the coffee brewing.

 

Both are very capable, but the 3.Ai goes deeper and has a slight (but not overpowering!) bass boost. Let me help you pick:

 

Who do you prefer listening to?

1#

A) Debussy

B) Deadmau5

 

2#

A) Ravel

B) Rammstein

 

3#

A) Fink

B) Faithless

 

4#

A) Louise Rogers

B) Lady Gaga

 

5#

A) Mark Knopfler

B) Massive Attack

 

Mostly A's? Get the 4.Ai.

Mostly B's? Get the 3.Ai.

 

 

Well, I can make it there for dinner! Just let me grab my bike... biggrin.gif

 

 

From the music choices you presented, I can't say I hear much of any of them, as I'm more of a rock and metal daily listener. I enjoy Massive Attack and Faithless, but not on a daily basis. I also listen to a bit of Rammstein from time to time, when I'm very angry, as it calms me down! tongue.gif

 

 

I'm almost sure the 4.Ai is not for my taste, but my problem is that I'm also not 100% sure the 3.Ai will be my cup of tea! I'm not a basshead, and I don't like V-shapped sound signatures! I need my mids... wink.gif

post #1874 of 7980

Where along the the frequency curve of the 3.Ai is the bass actually boosted?  Are we talking midbass, 100-250 hz?  Is there a fq graph of the 3.A/Ai available?


Edited by FlySweep - 8/23/12 at 11:24am
post #1875 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

I have both with me here - swing by on your way from work! Portugal -> Denmark is like what... 2500km tops, right? Lemme know when you're here and I'll get the coffee brewing.

 

Both are very capable, but the 3.Ai goes deeper and has a slight (but not overpowering!) bass boost. Let me help you pick:

 

Who do you prefer listening to?

1#

A) Debussy

B) Deadmau5

 

2#

A) Ravel

B) Rammstein

 

3#

A) Fink

B) Faithless

 

4#

A) Louise Rogers

B) Lady Gaga

 

5#

A) Mark Knopfler

B) Massive Attack

 

Mostly A's? Get the 4.Ai.

Mostly B's? Get the 3.Ai.

What if I answered A and B for everything except Lady Gaga?

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