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Sorry to derail the 3.Ai and 4.Ai talk, but I have to share this.

 

I'm at work right now, where most of my listening takes place. I'm reading up on Windows Powershell and I figured Keith Jarrett's marvelous Köln concert would be a brilliant audio backdrop for my studies, using my DX100 to power the Heir 8.A. I was not prepared for what followed.

 

I expected the concert to just flow in the background, allowing me to focus on my reading. I know the recording well and it is very enjoyable, yet unobtrusive. However, on the 8.A it was something completely different. I know that there's a couple of coughs from the audience during the concert but suddenly I heard more of them, coming from different places in the concert hall. People moving in their seats and the little sounds from Keith losing himself in the music - small, joyous exclamations, sighs and moans. So, the 8.A conveys detail really well. We know this. What really amazes me, however, is that I hear zero noises from the recording equipment. Nothing. Not a blip, not a hum, no static, nothing. Keep in mind that this was a live recording in a concert hall, in 1975. I'm listening to the 24/96 version from HDtracks in FLAC but I'm not hearing a recording. It really sounds like I have not only flown back to January 24th, 1975 - I am hovering about 1-2 feet above the piano, facing Keith Jarrett. Simply amazing. 

 

Sorry boss, I'll need to finish this concert, then I'll get right back to reading.

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Sorensiim, I'm sorry for your boss! But you should be carefull about your staments though, because if bosses around the world find out about this, then the 8.A may be forbiden at work! biggrin.gif

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That is alright, thanks for sharing. Their are the elements of the 3 dimensional sound which uses both channel and instrument separation oh so well and great detail all around that you talk about that the 8.A that i am finding to be present with the 4.Ai, the 3-D sound especially.

 

More on sound later though! The 4.Ai sound a lot better than the olympic commentators haha!

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The earpieces themselves look amazing, that polished finish appearance is excellent, I think personally for this kind of money the cable leaves a little to be desired, especially the cinch which could of been a perfect opportunity to have a Heir logo placed on a nicer looking cinch rather than plastic tube. My $35 cable from ebay next week will have a plastic tube. Yes, yes....I know, we can "upgrade the cable" but I still think it looked a little tatty.

Thanks, Swimsonny.
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

That is alright, thanks for sharing. Their are the elements of the 3 dimensional sound which uses both channel and instrument separation oh so well and great detail all around that you talk about that the 8.A that i am finding to be present with the 4.Ai, the 3-D sound especially.

 

More on sound later though! The 4.Ai sound a lot better than the olympic commentators haha!

 

 

Maybe you should start a new thread for the 4.Ai review, no?

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

The earpieces themselves look amazing, that polished finish appearance is excellent, I think personally for this kind of money the cable leaves a little to be desired, especially the cinch which could of been a perfect opportunity to have a Heir logo placed on a nicer looking cinch rather than plastic tube. My $35 cable from ebay next week will have a plastic tube. Yes, yes....I know, we can "upgrade the cable" but I still think it looked a little tatty.
Thanks, Swimsonny.

They do indeed, they do not fingerprint bad either with their glossy finish.

 

Yes i think it is almost identical to the Jaben ES8 IEM cable that i have previously reviewed with the TF10s. The only difference is the connectors as that was for TF10 and actually the cable cinch on that was a really nice round one with a grip on it.

 

However they way i looked on the cable cinch is that it has one. But yes it does look a bit tatty especially compared to how amazing the housings are. What i will say about the cable is how strong that the braid feels at the moment, it feels like it could pull a bus.However i just hope it holds together as the ES8 i had on loan clearly did not. Here is a picture of it, looks pretty similar to me, what do you think?

 

Oh and glad you liked the video.

 

 

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Jaben ES8 Cable

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I figured Keith Jarrett's marvelous Köln concert would be a brilliant audio backdrop for my studies, using my DX100 to power the Heir 8.A. I was not prepared for what followed.

Haha, for me it's Bremen/Lausanne. And yes, Manfred Eicher knew what he was doing back in the day.

Many people assume that since technology improves, recordings improve. What it really means is that it becomes easier to make superlative recordings.

If you think ECM was doing miraculous things in the 1970s, wait until you get to hear what kind of recordings were possible in the 1950s when a great engineer was given the means to do his best.
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That is alright, thanks for sharing. Their are the elements of the 3 dimensional sound which uses both channel and instrument separation oh so well and great detail all around that you talk about that the 8.A that i am finding to be present with the 4.Ai, the 3-D sound especially.

 

More on sound later though! The 4.Ai sound a lot better than the olympic commentators haha!

My 3.Ai and a 4.Ai review sample left Heir Audio this morning... As soon as UPS gets their act together I'll be doing head-on comparisons between 3.Ai, 4.Ai and 8.A. wink.gif

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Maybe you should start a new thread for the 4.Ai review, no?

Okay, the review will not be up for at least a week as i do not like to rush what i hear, it could be longer, i have to be happy i have enough hours on it. Do you guys think i should make a dedicated appreciation and review thread for the 4.Ai so we can take the talk over their. I will put everyones impression and reviews on the OP and hopefully we can build a nice thread. I will do it now if you guys want? Also just for the 4.Ai or the 3.Ai as well? I will get on it now!

post #1600 of 7980
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

My 3.Ai and a 4.Ai review sample left Heir Audio this morning... As soon as UPS gets their act together I'll be doing head-on comparisons between 3.Ai, 4.Ai and 8.A. wink.gif

Now that is gonna be special, your gonna be impressed with the 4.Ai i think even against the 8.A ! I wonder how the 3.Ai goes as well!

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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Okay, the review will not be up for at least a week as i do not like to rush what i hear, it could be longer, i have to be happy i have enough hours on it. Do you guys think i should make a dedicated appreciation and review thread for the 4.Ai so we can take the talk over their. I will put everyones impression and reviews on the OP and hopefully we can build a nice thread. I will do it now if you guys want? Also just for the 4.Ai or the 3.Ai as well? I will get on it now!

 

 

That seems a very good idea to me... wink.gif

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So just the 4.Ai or both the 4 and the 3 universals?

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They do indeed, they do not fingerprint bad either with their glossy finish.

Yes i think it is almost identical to the Jaben ES8 IEM cable that i have previously reviewed with the TF10s. The only difference is the connectors as that was for TF10 and actually the cable cinch on that was a really nice round one with a grip on it.

However they way i looked on the cable cinch is that it has one. But yes it does look a bit tatty especially compared to how amazing the housings are. What i will say about the cable is how strong that the braid feels at the moment, it feels like it could pull a bus.However i just hope it holds together as the ES8 i had on loan clearly did not. Here is a picture of it, looks pretty similar to me, what do you think?

Oh and glad you liked the video.



Jaben ES8 Cable

It looks almost identical to the one in the video, minus the cinch (which is better on the ES8) and connecters. I think anyone that purchases Ai would feel inclined to immediately upgrade to another cable. Hypothetically I've just spend $300 dollars as it is, I don't need to be upgrading to another cable or shouldn't have too. Sales pitch maybe? Oh well, lets see how they sound. redface.gif
Edited by H20Fidelity - 8/6/12 at 5:14am
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So just the 4.Ai or both the 4 and the 3 universals?

 

 

For now, maybe just for the 4.Ai. After people start getting the 3.Ai to review, you can decide which option is better... I tend to prefer different threads for different products! wink.gif

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For now, maybe just for the 4.Ai. After people start getting the 3.Ai to review, you can decide which option is better... I tend to prefer different threads for different products! wink.gif

So do i but i considered them as they are similar products could be linked together. After remembering how the Fit Ear ToGo thread went with the 334 and 111 i have decided just to orientate it around the 4.Ai and i am writing it up now. WIll post a link here when done.

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It looks almost identical to the one in the video, minus the cinch (which is better on the ES8) and connecters. I think anyone that purchases Ai would feel inclined to immediately upgrade to another cable. Hypothetically I've just spend $300 dollars as it is, I don't need to be upgrading to another cable. Sales pitch maybe? Oh well, lets see how they sound. redface.gif

Indeed so my thought are the same as yours. As long as it does not get in that state there is no need to upgrade. I never actually thought about it. The cable is far from being bad it just could have some nicer aesthetics. Plus when you hear the sound you will forget about cables hehe ;)

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