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My ONE big try at finding me the best headphone!

post #1 of 28
12/10/11 at 1:49pm
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Hi, head-fiers 
 
This isn't my first topic, but I'm serious about buying the best possible headphone for me! I've owned a few, but never had the feeling 'this is THE headphone for me' I want that now... It's like I see the potential of my music, but can't experience it - very frustrating! 
 
The last two headphones I've owned are getting closer to what I want.
 
Owned (from old to new):
 
- Cheap Sony headphone (cool name huh?)
- Sony XB-300
- Koss UR-55      
- Superlux 668b
 
Listened to:
 
- Bose Quiet Comfort 15  --- This is a very expensive headphone, and I DID NOT LIKE IT! Mids seem to be boosted and way too low/not clear...
 
- Bose AE2 --- A little less expensive and possible better than the above one, but no good! I also did not like the mids, and the're a bit to smooth.
 
- Sennheiser HD435 --- A bit cheap, not too bad, a bit boring, it's in between a fun/smooth sounding headphone and an studio with extra bas and without highs... 
 
- Koss UR-55 --- I really needed to get used to it, I liked it, but the mids are a bit twisted or something, basicly their fun sounding (to me), but not "natural fun sounding"...
 
- Sony XB300 --- Bassy, do not like.
 
- AKG 171 --- Possibly as you would expect, bit boring, doesn't put much punch in the music.
 
- Superlux 668b --- Best of the headphones I've owned --- being a 'studio monitor', the're more fun than the AKG 171. The bass isn't extra strong, but not lacking and detailed! Some people don't like the highs on the Superluxes, but I love them!
 
- AIAIAI Tracks --- They don't seem to be very popular on this forum, but from all the headphones I've listened to and own, It's the best. It amazes me how much I like these little buggers. They are fun sounding but without twisting the sound like the UR-55. For me these have strong lows, but a little too smooth. I find them also to be good for vocals!
Too bad they have their flaws, but maybe I can find a headphone similar but full size and a bit more expensive without the flaws. For example, the top of the highs seems to be missing...
 
 
Want:
 
- 'sharp' sound, but not 'flat' like a studio headphone
- separation of mids, lows and highs --- no lows bleeding in the mids! no mids pulling the highs down!
- this might be a weird way to say it, but I wan't them to have a screaming/powerful sound, but not uncontrolled
 
Do not want:
 
- smooth sounding
- twisting the sound of the music as intended by the maker
- chopped of lows and highs
 
 
 
List of headphones that are in my budget, please tell me if there are more, which are no good for me and which are!
 
Headphones:
 
- Koss PRO DJ100
 
- KRK KNS-6400
 
- Fisher Audio FA-011
 
- Fisher Audio FA-003
 
- Ultrasone HFI-450
 
- Ultrasone PRO-450
 
- Panasonic RP-HTF600E-S
 
- AKG K141 MKII
 
- AKG K 240 Studio
 
- AKG K-121 Studio
 
- Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO Headset - 250 OHM (a bit expensive)
 
- Sony MDR V6
 
- Sony MDR 7506
 
- Sony MDR-ZX700
 
 
Music preference: Dupstep --- this might seem weird because I want a bit of a natural sounding headphone, BUT, I like dupstep with high tones in it!
I don't listen to the basic repeating WUB WUB WUB sounds...
 
 
 
 
 
 
My budget is around 100$ to 150$, keep in mind that I live in Europe!
 
I'm not an audiophile, I'm 16 so my explaining how headphones sound might be not the regular way.
 
Sorry for my bad English!
 
And thank you in advance! Feel free to ask some questions that might help for choosing a headphone, link me to reviews, etc!
 
 
Greetings,
 

Edited by Flumphy - 12/10/11 at 1:57pm
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post #2 of 28
12/10/11 at 1:53pm

Heya,

 

Energetic, bright headphone for dub?

 

Ultrasone HFI 580

 

Cheaper:

 

Panasonic HTF600

 

Though you sounded like you wanted a Grado at first, but then you said Dub...

 

Very best,

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post #3 of 28
12/10/11 at 2:03pm
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I've been expecting you wink_face.gif, you seem to help a lot of people here, nice going!

 

You're definitely right when you say 'bright and energetic'.

 

What do you think about he Ultrasone PRO-450? It's about half the price of the HFI-580, not that I want to cut corners, but don't mind me asking.

 

I've read a lot about the Panasonics, I might buy them in the future just to try. I know the're good value, but I think I can do better at a higher price.

 

And finally, any comment on the Koss PRO DJ100?

 

EDIT: Is the ULTRASONE 20TH ANNIVERSARY, the same as HFI-580?

EDIT: It's not, it's the same or close to the PRO-450.

EDIT: Read post below me...

 

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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post
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Heya,

 

Energetic, bright headphone for dub?

 

Ultrasone HFI 580

 

Cheaper:

 

Panasonic HTF600

 

Though you sounded like you wanted a Grado at first, but then you said Dub...

 

Very best,



 


Edited by Flumphy - 12/10/11 at 2:12pm
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post #4 of 28
12/10/11 at 2:11pm

 

Quote:
Is the ULTRASONE 20TH ANNIVERSARY, the same as HFI-580?

 

Not at all, 20th anni its ultrasone pro650.

 

Its better than pro-450.

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post #5 of 28
12/10/11 at 2:12pm

Creative auvarna live!

koss kcs75 kramer mod

or add a bit more to go for Denon D2000 and end them all!

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post #6 of 28
12/10/11 at 2:14pm
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Thank you for the reply!

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Originally Posted by DVDRey View Post

 

 

Not at all, 20th anni its ultrasone pro650.

 

Its better than pro-450.



Does any of the headphones from my list or any other's compete with the Ultrasone HFI-580 (or PRO-450/650)?

 

Greetings,

 

EDIT: @gogators - I think the CAL might be too bassy?


Edited by Flumphy - 12/10/11 at 2:15pm
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post #7 of 28
12/10/11 at 2:28pm

 

Quote:
Does any of the headphones from my list or any other's compete with the Ultrasone HFI-580 (or PRO-450/650)?

 

I don't known all headphones from your list, but HFi580 and pro650 20th anni are very good headphone and currently not expensive. HFi580 for fun listening (big bass, forward midrange...), pro650 is a much more balanced headphone, less aggressive sounding, more relaxed over time.

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post #8 of 28
12/11/11 at 2:50am
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I've done some reading on the Ultrasones, and I'm not really sure the're it.

From what I've heard they can be fairly uncomfortable, and I'll be doing homework/browsing/youtubing with them, so 3+ hours of usage...

 

Am I right saying that the HFI's have a small soundstage? (especially in comparison with my HD668b)

And last, do they have a lot of bass quantity or impact? 

 

For example the HFI series have more bass, but is it better than the PRO 450 or 650?

 

It is possible that I'll like the HFI-580, but they don't seem to be close to perfect for me and they are at the top of my budget 130€ (170$).

For example, the PRO-450 is 77€ (100$)...

 

I would also like to have more options than only Ultrasone?

 

- Ultrasone ....

- Fisher Audio FA-011 (?)

- Koss PRO DJ100 (?)

 

Is there anyone that has heard the AIAIAI Tracks and that can recommend a full size headphone?

 

Greetings,


Edited by Flumphy - 12/11/11 at 2:55am
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post #9 of 28
12/11/11 at 3:32am

The Cal! is not really bassy IMO. But I think they're pretty much crap. They feel plastic in a cheap way, like they're going to break anytime soon, but they sound fairly good for the price I paid for them (£39). I wouldn't buy them again if they broke on me, and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone looking for headphones that cost more than £40.

 

If you think the XB 300 is too bassy, then maybe the HFI 580 might not be the one for you. Plus, it has that weird S-logic thing.

 

From my understanding, the Shures are a lighter on the bass than i.e. Ultrasones, while still having some of it. I could be wrong, but there's another brand for you to check out. 


Edited by Coq de Combat - 12/11/11 at 3:33am
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post #10 of 28
12/11/11 at 3:41am

Have you considered buying speakers?

 

 

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post #11 of 28
12/11/11 at 3:56am
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XB-300 is waaaaay to bassy/muddy, but that might also be because it's a cheap headphone and the quality of the mids/highs is just bad...

 

About the Shures then, the SRH440 is in my budget together with the SRH550DJ.

The SRH440 seems more popular, I'll do some more reading on it...

 

The Ultrasone PRO-450 should also have less bass, can anyone comment on the comfort of these?

 

EDIT: comments on the Fisher and Koss?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

The Cal! is not really bassy IMO. But I think they're pretty much crap. They feel plastic in a cheap way, like they're going to break anytime soon, but they sound fairly good for the price I paid for them (£39). I wouldn't buy them again if they broke on me, and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone looking for headphones that cost more than £40.

 

If you think the XB 300 is too bassy, then maybe the HFI 580 might not be the one for you. Plus, it has that weird S-logic thing.

 

From my understanding, the Shures are a lighter on the bass than i.e. Ultrasones, while still having some of it. I could be wrong, but there's another brand for you to check out. 



 

No, my room isn't fully closed, both too the room of my brother and the rest of the house...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Boat View Post

Have you considered buying speakers?

 

 


 

 

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post #12 of 28
12/11/11 at 4:06am
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Originally Posted by Flumphy View Post

XB-300 is waaaaay to bassy/muddy, but that might also be because it's a cheap headphone and the quality of the mids/highs is just bad...

 

About the Shures then, the SRH440 is in my budget together with the SRH550DJ.

The SRH440 seems more popular, I'll do some more reading on it...

 

The Ultrasone PRO-450 should also have less bass, can anyone comment on the comfort of these?

 

EDIT: comments on the Fisher and Koss?

 


I'd probably look into Fischer Audio, but I can't really comment on them or recommend them since I haven't tried them. The Fischer Audio model you brought up, are supposed to be pretty bass heavy (again, from my understanding, not from experience), but the FA-003 (or the Brainwavz HM5) might do the trick for you.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you weren't really looking for bass monsters, yet you want some bass, right?

 

The Koss are intriguing, but they seem to scale well with amping (to me it translates to: sound quality is only so-so without proper amping), so there's another cost for you.

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post #13 of 28
12/11/11 at 4:16am
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About the bass -

 

I want it to be able to play the Dubstep bass, but not boost it.   ---- for example: when I boost the bass in iTunes with my Superlux 668B it takes a while before it can't handle it...

 

I do like sharp punchy bass, I would like everything to be sharp, crisp and punchy (bass, mids and highs). And to be equal in volume, so no bass that covers up the mids etc...

 

I'll read some more about the Fishers, the 011 definitely has a lot of bass it seems, but the 003 might have the opposite? 

Could the cheaper Fisher models also be possible, or is the overall sound quality just not good enough..

 

And thanks for helping me out guy's (/girls)!

 

Greetings,


Edited by Flumphy - 12/11/11 at 11:16am
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post #14 of 28
12/11/11 at 10:13pm

HTF-600
Denon D2000.

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post #15 of 28
12/11/11 at 11:53pm

Actually, the Denon D2000 is not a bad suggestion. In my opinion, the bass is really good on it: it is powerful, it has that oomph that is great for dubstep - but it never takes over your music at all. It just is there and is powerful, perfect and if you want it to be, discrete.

 

If only it could be had for $150. tongue.gif

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