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post #3436 of 3969

After many months of hate, love, and then hate for the Z1060, I've finally found true unadulterated love...

 

Using Neutron, I've made a very slight cut to the 250hz band, normalized my entire library, plugged it into the Fiio E12, and added the FI-BA-SB, and - found love...

 

This humble little setup really does make me forget that I have a pair of Audeze LCD2's sat on the desk here, I really cannot believe that this is just a portable setup...

 

Sure, there are better setups out there, however - for what this is, I just do not think it can be beaten...

 

The only thing that annoys me is that if you connect an LOD, when not in use you have to power off, else the battery drains away (same on the X1060, so - presumably just an inherent issue with the WM Port)...

 

Other than that, superstar :)

post #3437 of 3969

So nobody is experiencing awful glitches using ICS?

 

For starters:

 

1 - Trying to press the Walkman button while locked only turns on the screen.  After the second press an animation glitch occurs followed by the player options.

 

2 - The notification applet crashes often, especially while scanning for new media.  This bug affects the whole applet api, extending even to the walkman classics app.

 

3 - Audio will pop / click when running the CPU high, e.g loading a rich webpage.

  

4 - Even when muting notifications, they will continue to pause music while running.  Only way to resolve this is to set the sound effect to silent.

 

5 - Loading a HTML5 page will kill the battery if you do not task kill the browser.

 

6 - Scanning media from the Walkman music player will occasionally cause instability, freezes.

 

7 - Touchscreen taps are not recognized properly, especially within the Walkman apps.  If we had root we could easily fix this.

 

 

I still would not go back to Gingerbread, even though the performance has taken a hit.  My browser benchmark on eJ3.us yields 50% more performance on Gingerbread.

 

The UI looks and feels far more solid, for someone who mainly uses music, these bugs don't typically bother me.  The Google player does not have media scan issues, and recognizes taps better.  Also has a search option :D

 

My A900X and Walkman Z are really working like dynamite for me.

Also having a native torrent client makes trying new music less of a hassle.

 

I think so far I have experienced almost 30 bugs that affect user experience, 11 of which were already on Gingerbread.  My only other device that had these many bugs ran WebOS.

 

Sony please make a WebOS based Walkman!  I'll throw as much money as you want D:

post #3438 of 3969
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Originally Posted by AUDIOBREEDER View Post

Why do you want to root something that looks so nice. Everything about the Sony Z walkman interface screams 'Make. Believe'. It plays well, sounds great, but needs to handled gently due to its size.
my player "power amp" does not pass the license for that we need the "right Root"!mad.gif
post #3439 of 3969

Hi

 

Can anyone in this thread please let me know whether the sound quality of Walkman Z is comparable to FIIO's E07K or E17 (both amp and dac)?

 

I'm planning to buy E17 but if Walkman Z can give similar sound quality (both DAC and Amp) then I want to go for Walkman Z

post #3440 of 3969
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Originally Posted by visanj View Post

Hi

Can anyone in this thread please let me know whether the sound quality of Walkman Z is comparable to FIIO's E07K or E17 (both amp and dac)?

I'm planning to buy E17 but if Walkman Z can give similar sound quality (both DAC and Amp) then I want to go for Walkman Z
The e17 or e07k will smash any walkman PERIOD, but you should just wait a month or 2 for the fiio x3 player it has the e17's internals all in one with upgradable capacity via micro sd


No I am not a fiio fanboy and I never will be I just know its better than walkman sorry
post #3441 of 3969

...mpawluk91...

 

...That is, if you like the tonality of the E17...

 

Don't know what it is about the E17, but, I just never have liked the sound (despite playing with the EQ and gain...)

 

Visanj...

 

My logical question has to be, if you're buying E17, what are you going to connect it to? (as, that will also play a part)

post #3442 of 3969
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...mpawluk91...

 

...That is, if you like the tonality of the E17...

 

Don't know what it is about the E17, but, I just never have liked the sound (despite playing with the EQ and gain...)

 

Visanj...

 

My logical question has to be, if you're buying E17, what are you going to connect it to? (as, that will also play a part)

 

Actually If I buy E17 I will connect my PC to it and listen to songs, alternatively I can transfer songs to Walkman Z and listen to it provided it has similar or better sound quality. The problem is its getting difficult to get E17 over here in India, so I'm thinking to look for alternative sources (either audiophile mp3 player or good DAC) but I"m really a fan of E17, so I'm looking for a device with similar sound quality

post #3443 of 3969

Hmm...

 

Well, obviously, going the E17 route, you're tying yourself to your desk, however - I'm going to need to spin the around the opposite way - what headphones / IEMs are you planning to use (whichever way you go with your purchase)?

 

Thanks.

post #3444 of 3969
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

Hmm...

 

Well, obviously, going the E17 route, you're tying yourself to your desk, however - I'm going to need to spin the around the opposite way - what headphones / IEMs are you planning to use (whichever way you go with your purchase)?

 

Thanks.

 

I have Brainwavz M2 (my favourite) and Thinksound TS02 IEMs. I do have Sennheiser PX100 II on ear headphone and HD202 over ear headphones. So I listen with either of these 

 

but mostly I listen using Brainwavz M2 if its going to be portable or PX100 when I sit in front of desktop

post #3445 of 3969

Okay,

 

I've just been comparing the E17 (via the HTC One [M7] and foobar on PC) to the Z1060, and - well - an interesting story...

 

If you have a set budget, and are not that interested in portability, then arguably the E17 is better, as it has gain control, and a relatively rock steady EQ (albeit it is basic) - However - whilst the Z1060 sounds thinner through the headphone out than the E17 (wow, didn't think I'd say that!) - its real benefit is its line out, so - if you can afford to get both the player and an amp (so, in my case, the Fiio E12) with a line out dock, then that is a far better proposition than the E17 on its own...

 

Of course, getting the E12, you lose the DAC section, however - the amp in the E12 is far and away better than that of the E17, and the Z itself...

 

Before I get jumped on by 30 people following this thread saying that I am talking rubbish, bear in mind that we're talking about using Senn PX100s not CIEMs or otherwise, if heading into higher end headphone / [C]IEM territory, the E17 loses out quite badly to the E12 (I refuse these days to listen to the Z without an amp, even ignoring the fact I have an EU version, the Z just doesn't have the grunt, or - the finesse that the E12 can provide), and don't forget that the one advantage the E17 has over the Z is that you can easily configure it for 24/96 playback...

 

I am case in point, until getting the FI-BA-SB (and, to a lesser extent, the Heir Tzar 350s), the point of the Z was somewhat lost on me, with the Sony XBA4s that I was using, sounding better through the HTC One head-out than with the Z...

 

...and think how much they cost / how much better they sound than the Senn PX100!!

 

visanj, with the above in mind, be prepared to start going down a slippery slope to financial ruin!!

post #3446 of 3969
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Okay,

 

I've just been comparing the E17 (via the HTC One [M7] and foobar on PC) to the Z1060, and - well - an interesting story...

 

If you have a set budget, and are not that interested in portability, then arguably the E17 is better, as it has gain control, and a relatively rock steady EQ (albeit it is basic) - However - whilst the Z1060 sounds thinner through the headphone out than the E17 (wow, didn't think I'd say that!) - its real benefit is its line out, so - if you can afford to get both the player and an amp (so, in my case, the Fiio E12) with a line out dock, then that is a far better proposition than the E17 on its own...

 

Of course, getting the E12, you lose the DAC section, however - the amp in the E12 is far and away better than that of the E17, and the Z itself...

 

Before I get jumped on by 30 people following this thread saying that I am talking rubbish, bear in mind that we're talking about using Senn PX100s not CIEMs or otherwise, if heading into higher end headphone / [C]IEM territory, the E17 loses out quite badly to the E12 (I refuse these days to listen to the Z without an amp, even ignoring the fact I have an EU version, the Z just doesn't have the grunt, or - the finesse that the E12 can provide), and don't forget that the one advantage the E17 has over the Z is that you can easily configure it for 24/96 playback...

 

I am case in point, until getting the FI-BA-SB (and, to a lesser extent, the Heir Tzar 350s), the point of the Z was somewhat lost on me, with the Sony XBA4s that I was using, sounding better through the HTC One head-out than with the Z...

 

...and think how much they cost / how much better they sound than the Senn PX100!!

 

visanj, with the above in mind, be prepared to start going down a slippery slope to financial ruin!!

 

Thanks for your inputs. I will look into it

post #3447 of 3969
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

Okay,

 

I've just been comparing the E17 (via the HTC One [M7] and foobar on PC) to the Z1060, and - well - an interesting story...

 

If you have a set budget, and are not that interested in portability, then arguably the E17 is better, as it has gain control, and a relatively rock steady EQ (albeit it is basic) - However - whilst the Z1060 sounds thinner through the headphone out than the E17 (wow, didn't think I'd say that!) - its real benefit is its line out, so - if you can afford to get both the player and an amp (so, in my case, the Fiio E12) with a line out dock, then that is a far better proposition than the E17 on its own...

 

Of course, getting the E12, you lose the DAC section, however - the amp in the E12 is far and away better than that of the E17, and the Z itself...

 

Before I get jumped on by 30 people following this thread saying that I am talking rubbish, bear in mind that we're talking about using Senn PX100s not CIEMs or otherwise, if heading into higher end headphone / [C]IEM territory, the E17 loses out quite badly to the E12 (I refuse these days to listen to the Z without an amp, even ignoring the fact I have an EU version, the Z just doesn't have the grunt, or - the finesse that the E12 can provide), and don't forget that the one advantage the E17 has over the Z is that you can easily configure it for 24/96 playback...

 

I am case in point, until getting the FI-BA-SB (and, to a lesser extent, the Heir Tzar 350s), the point of the Z was somewhat lost on me, with the Sony XBA4s that I was using, sounding better through the HTC One head-out than with the Z...

 

...and think how much they cost / how much better they sound than the Senn PX100!!

 

visanj, with the above in mind, be prepared to start going down a slippery slope to financial ruin!!

i was wondering are you saying that htc ONE is somewhat has a better sounding than the Z  (IF we uses an XBA iem) ??

post #3448 of 3969

virus12345,

 

For me personally, yes - as the HTC has more of an 'alive' sound than the Z, which compliments the XBA4's which are a bit thin in midrange...

 

However, that depends on which version of the XBA4 you get, as they can clip quite nastily on the One (no formal proof of a difference in design, other than that common specs are that the XBA4 is 8ohm, and people say they distort on the One, whereas mine are declared as 16ohm, and do not clip)...

 

However, the above negates itself with higher end headphones / IEMs, as that lusher midrange on the One becomes a curse, rather than a blessing, sounding a bit syrupy...

post #3449 of 3969
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

virus12345,

 

For me personally, yes - as the HTC has more of an 'alive' sound than the Z, which compliments the XBA4's which are a bit thin in midrange...

 

However, that depends on which version of the XBA4 you get, as they can clip quite nastily on the One (no formal proof of a difference in design, other than that common specs are that the XBA4 is 8ohm, and people say they distort on the One, whereas mine are declared as 16ohm, and do not clip)...

 

However, the above negates itself with higher end headphones / IEMs, as that lusher midrange on the One becomes a curse, rather than a blessing, sounding a bit syrupy...

 

Duncan,

 

I'm not sure if your Z is the victim of the "euro volume cap" issue.  Like I've been saying, the euro A walkman that I have sound drastically brighter and harsher sounding compared to the Japan/USA counterpart.  Not only the EU unit's volume lower, but the sound quality is not as good as well.  Of course, this may only apply to the A walkman that purchased from advancedmp3.com

post #3450 of 3969

purk,

 

Long time no see, I hope all is good with you?

 

To be fair, I listened to a JPN Z, and didn't think there was that much of a difference between the two (although, different tracks, and noisy environment isn't exactly bringing up a scientific conclusion to this!)

 

The Z's saving grace, and - why I've returned to it again, is its line out, that really does allow the music to come alive, especially when plugged into a middle tier amp (like the E12) - a very pleasant surprise :)

 

All of the above being said, I guess I'm now at a point on my sonic journey where the headphone out of most devices will just not sound that great anymore :(

 

As I've said for years, ignorance is bliss, and - I wish I was still ignorant to it :(

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