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post #3226 of 3929
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Originally Posted by purk View Post

 

If you want a physical button, get the A86x series, a direct replacement to the X.  However it is also discontinued.  I found it to sound stellar as well.

 

  Just got an 865 out of the mail box off the bay that was new in the box.

 If I like it, I will get me a Japanese version that is 64gb. I can put up with Japanese characters for more storage. Once I get the device set up, language will not be an issue. 

post #3227 of 3929
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Originally Posted by hookem 1969 View Post

 

  Just got an 865 out of the mail box off the bay that was new in the box.

 If I like it, I will get me a Japanese version that is 64gb. I can put up with Japanese characters for more storage. Once I get the device set up, language will not be an issue. 

Cool...don't forget to report back.  The A867 also play Atrac Lossless.  Pretty nice but cumbersome alternative to Flac, but the sound improvements are worth it if you own a top flight IEMs.

post #3228 of 3929

I did not realize that the 867 did Atrac lossless. My plan is to have one to use at the house (Z) to play flac and to pair it up with my W4's. and the other (A) as my portable device that I take to the gym etc.for mp3.  After that, the plan is to downsize the other sony devices that I own.

 

Will keep you posted. 

post #3229 of 3929
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Originally Posted by hookem 1969 View Post

I did not realize that the 867 did Atrac lossless. My plan is to have one to use at the house (Z) to play flac and to pair it up with my W4's. and the other (A) as my portable device that I take to the gym etc.for mp3.  After that, the plan is to downsize the other sony devices that I own.

 

Will keep you posted. 

Only the Japanese version is Atrac Lossless capable.  I'm not sure if HK unit is able to play Atrac Lossless or not.  If you have problems navigating unit, I might be able to help.

post #3230 of 3929

Ok, now that I have the a865 up and running, I am upset that I now have to purchase yet another walkman. Now I will have to get the a867 because the sound is phenomanal.

 

This baby seems to have more power than my X or Z and is fun to listen to. As a comparison, when I listen to the Z  with clearbass set at 2 ( still on gingerbread, have not updated to 4.0) with my triple fi10's it sounds very detailed with the mids kicking in without an empasis on bass.

 

When plugged in the A, if set at 2 on clearbass ,the bass is really through the roof . After playing with various listening options,  I have found that with the triple fi's, it sounds best with no equalizer at all. This is the first sony player or other player that I have owned for that matter, that actually sound great without an eq for these particular iems.

 

I browse my music by folders and I love how easy it is to navigate as opposed to android based players. Don't get me wrong, I still like the Z because it has a different sound sig and it will compliment the A that I just aquired. 

 

I am planning to update to 4.0 on the Z for my flac files soon, but I want to know how much will the sound sig change on the Z if any, after I take the plunge?

post #3231 of 3929
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Originally Posted by hookem 1969 View Post

Ok, now that I have the a865 up and running, I am upset that I now have to purchase yet another walkman. Now I will have to get the a867 because the sound is phenomanal.

 

This baby seems to have more power than my X or Z and is fun to listen to. As a comparison, when I listen to the Z  with clearbass set at 2 ( still on gingerbread, have not updated to 4.0) with my triple fi10's it sounds very detailed with the mids kicking in without an empasis on bass.

 

When plugged in the A, if set at 2 on clearbass ,the bass is really through the roof . After playing with various listening options,  I have found that with the triple fi's, it sounds best with no equalizer at all. This is the first sony player or other player that I have owned for that matter, that actually sound great without an eq for these particular iems.

 

I browse my music by folders and I love how easy it is to navigate as opposed to android based players. Don't get me wrong, I still like the Z because it has a different sound sig and it will compliment the A that I just aquired. 

 

I am planning to update to 4.0 on the Z for my flac files soon, but I want to know how much will the sound sig change on the Z if any, after I take the plunge?

Thanks for your impression.  However, this proof yet again that all of us hear a little differently.  I also own the Japanese Z 1070, but I didn't find the A walkman to be superior sounding my Z, but just slightly different.  In a direct comparison, I found the Z to have more energetic sound with slightly more emphasis on the midbass, while the A has less of it but has better sub-bass.  The A also has darker tonality as well as being more laid back compared to the Z.  Comparison was made using my JH13pro with flat setting on both players.

 

On the operation stand point, Sony did a great job designing the A walkman.  The dedicate control buttons are tough to beat.

post #3232 of 3929
I just acquired this baby, and I transfered some files via Bluetooth from my cell phone (haven't arrived home yet).

My very first impression is wow... they make my Sennheiser Momentum sound boomy with uncontrolled bass :/

Until yesterday I had an A865 which sounded phenomenal with tighter bass, but it had an accident with the cord and the jackplug died.

I just transfered one album, and the Walkman app refuses to add the files transfered over via BT, so I had to resort to the BT application media player. Could it be that?

Well I will post further impresions later on.
post #3233 of 3929

it says that the z is no longer available on the sony website. Any idea what happened? low on stocks? out of production?

post #3234 of 3929
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Originally Posted by mat-t View Post

it says that the z is no longer available on the sony website. Any idea what happened? low on stocks? out of production?

It was discontinued around this past new year by Sony.  It may still be available from other retailers.  I'm not sure whether Sony has any plan to replace it.  You may want to check out the F walkman as I find it has snappier operation.

post #3235 of 3929

If not wrong, the F series has replaced the Z series.

 

So far from my time with the Sony players, the A series were their original flagships before the X series came.

Then they went and created the Z series to replace the X series. And before we know it, the F series came to replace the Z series.

 

Not much news on the rest of the walkman range other than they are supposedly the mid range players from Sony.

These days Sony has been focusing on their W series which are sweat resistance in-ear headphone cum player. Decent SQ but nothing to shout about.

 

In my view, Sony Walkman team has lost its direction and focus on having a strong music player line-up and happy to be a niche player in sports centric music players.

post #3236 of 3929
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Originally Posted by kenz View Post

If not wrong, the F series has replaced the Z series.

 

So far from my time with the Sony players, the A series were their original flagships before the X series came.

Then they went and created the Z series to replace the X series. And before we know it, the F series came to replace the Z series.

 

Not much news on the rest of the walkman range other than they are supposedly the mid range players from Sony.

These days Sony has been focusing on their W series which are sweat resistance in-ear headphone cum player. Decent SQ but nothing to shout about.

 

In my view, Sony Walkman team has lost its direction and focus on having a strong music player line-up and happy to be a niche player in sports centric music players.

It was the X10x0 series as a flagship first following by the A84x7 series while the X10x0 was only a Japan & European released.  Then the X10x0 & A8x7 were both superceded by the A8x7 series following by the first Android Z, and F walkman.  I don't think the F is the Z replacement b/c the Z was more expensive and equipped the HDMI output.  The F is cheaper by $30.  All Sony's flagship walkmans enjoy the digital amplifier circuitry.


Edited by purk - 4/7/13 at 10:05am
post #3237 of 3929
So, I'm thinking about updating my device to ICS, I don't like the sound signature of GB and they say that with ICS the sound becomes less bass heavy, is that correct? Will I get a more analythical sound instead of a fun sound signature?

What's the general consensus about the differences in sound signature between ICS and GB if there is any?

Funny thing is that I had every sound option turned off, even the eq, then I turned the eq on (flat no clear bass) and it felt better, bass decay was less pronounced, but still doesn't feel right to me. Too smooth maybe.

Soundstage is outstanding though.
post #3238 of 3929
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Originally Posted by DrKrFfXx View Post

So, I'm thinking about updating my device to ICS, I don't like the sound signature of GB and they say that with ICS the sound becomes less bass heavy, is that correct? Will I get a more analythical sound instead of a fun sound signature?

What's the general consensus about the differences in sound signature between ICS and GB if there is any?

Funny thing is that I had every sound option turned off, even the eq, then I turned the eq on (flat no clear bass) and it felt better, bass decay was less pronounced, but still doesn't feel right to me. Too smooth maybe.

Soundstage is outstanding though.

You can still achieve the same levels of bass if so desired, but the difference comes in a better control of the Clearbass setting. The sound is easier to make less bass heavy for those who want a more analytical sound.

post #3239 of 3929
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Originally Posted by Fizz View Post

You can still achieve the same levels of bass if so desired, but the difference comes in a better control of the Clearbass setting. The sound is easier to make less bass heavy for those who want a more analytical sound.

Well, I updated to ICS and I did notice a decrease in bass boost, which is something I like, now is more or less the same signature I was accustomed when I was rocking the A865. I mean, my Sennheiser Momentum are what you call fun cans, with some bias toward bass, and when I had Gingerbread the bass+bass (source+headphone) wasn't pleasing. Fun+fun wasn't fun for me.

 

On a side note, I haven't found a perfect listening level just yet, my A865 was rated from 1 to 30, and my listening volume was 13-14. I just wish android had enumerated volume notches, so I could set it there and remember the number everytime, I don't want to listen to my music too loud without realizing. Sometimes just one notch up can mean headache at night after long listening sessions, the volume bar feels too vague IMHO.


Edited by DrKrFfXx - 4/7/13 at 3:02pm
post #3240 of 3929
Hey I was wondering if someone here can point me in the right direction? I already have an iPod touch 4g (64gb) that I pair via LOD with my headstage arrow 4g. I am considering getting a 64gb walkman f or z series to replace it. I want to make sure the sound quality will improve for sure but I need advice. I never use an eq and I listen to mostly heavy metal and rock. My cans are grado sr225i and Logitech ue 6000. Also I would prefer that the walkman has LOD capibility.

Thanks


Edited by mpawluk91 - 4/7/13 at 5:36pm
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