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post #76 of 93
1/2/12 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by Ulti View Post

Going to order the 3.A too, how long did your impressions get held up at customs? I'm hoping to get mine done before CNY, not sure if it's doable now though...


 

As long as you follow Heirs instructions and label it as "no comercial value" it shouldnt be long if at all. Theres some law that excludes samples and non comercial value products from customs charges.

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post #77 of 93
1/15/12 at 7:58am
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Anyone with the 3.A care to share their impressions here?

 

Been getting a few questions about the 3.A despite the review, thought some others could shed some light on their experiences as well.

 

On a side note, how do I mark this as a "Review" ?

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post #78 of 93
1/15/12 at 5:41pm

Any thoughts on these unamped?

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post #79 of 93
1/15/12 at 10:07pm
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Still sound great unamped but definitely takes it to another level amped.

 

I listen to them unamped out of an ipod classic every night while I cycle.

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post #80 of 93
1/19/12 at 4:41am
I was interested... (I like the pricing and some of John's replies to my questions) but then I saw this:

>Unique Melody Aero - 3 Driver 2 way Crossover MSRP $529 First thing I noticed was that the Bass on these were recessed.


>Unique Melody Mage - 4 Driver 3 way Crossover MSRP $639 These have more Bass than the 3.A, the difference is noticeable but not substantial.

I'm sorry but that's not at all my experience or the measurement of either Aero or Mage

Both have about the same amount of bass and highs, and the difference is a 1-2.5k mids bump on Mage (consequently aero's sound sig is somewhat u-shaped, at least the perception of it and mage sounds more balanced with a mids emphasis and relatively less perceived bass believe it or not). I've had both demo units for weeks, and your impressions of the two are nowhere near what I heard.

You can also see it quite clearly in the FR response charts.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/compudio/REVIEW/mage2.jpg
http://cdn.head-fi.org/f/f1/f162be07_DSC_0305.jpg


> Unfortunately, the Mage suffers from harsh Highs just like the Aero and dull vocals that despite being controlled, do not have any rawness.

sorry what? It has a clear 1-2.5k mids bump and that's very nice for vocals (metal, classical ,you name it). As for harsh highs. They're prominent, sure, but let's say SM3v2 has more pronounced and less natural highs that are a lot harsher.


I'm sorry, but I did not find the review useful.
Edited by svyr - 1/19/12 at 4:52am
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post #81 of 93
1/19/12 at 11:56am
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oh don't be sorry, to each his own =)

 

Its great you like the UM sound, I just don't.

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post #82 of 93
1/19/12 at 12:44pm
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oh don't be sorry, to each his own =)

Its great you like the UM sound, I just don't.

well if it was that, I wouldn't have said anything, however, as I pointed out above, your impressions don't seem to be grounded in reality (especially of bass on Aero), which makes me doubt you heard the UM IEMs... or wonder how you can possibly hear what you did...I was trying to piece together what 3.A might sound like, but because the info in the review directly conflicts my impressions, I can't really do much with it.

that's what the Sorry was for. heh.
(I like the UM sound, but maybe not so much the UM pricing relative to Heir biggrin.gif .)
Edited by svyr - 1/19/12 at 12:52pm
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post #83 of 93
1/19/12 at 9:33pm
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Well as I said, it was a comparative review. So in comparison to the 3.A, that's how it sounded to me. I think doubting that I took the time to grab the Aero and Mage to A/B is quite offensive to me.

 

If I hadn't been using CIEMs for the past 5 years, I probably would have an entirely different impression on the Aero and Mage, especially without the 3.A to do a direct comparison.

 

You can stare at FR charts all you want. I don't bother with them, I simply put them on and state what I like or don't like about them. It is my opinion and clearly you have yours.

 

I suggest you check yourself before you offend others.

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post #84 of 93
1/20/12 at 2:01am
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Well as I said, it was a comparative review. So in comparison to the 3.A, that's how it sounded to me. I think doubting that I took the time to grab the Aero and Mage to A/B is quite offensive to me.

If I hadn't been using CIEMs for the past 5 years, I probably would have an entirely different impression on the Aero and Mage, especially without the 3.A to do a direct comparison.

You can stare at FR charts all you want. I don't bother with them, I simply put them on and state what I like or don't like about them. It is my opinion and clearly you have yours.

I suggest you check yourself before you offend others.

Offensive or not, I offered a legitimate reason why I doubt you A/Bed Mage and Aero vs 3.a. (or more specifically doubt that you even heard both Mage and Aero).
It's nothing to do with comparing to 4.a or how long you used custom iems for, it's the difference you describe between Aero and Mage (despite it being via the comparison to 3.a.)

I've tried both for weeks and currently hold a Mage demo and had Aero for a couple of weeks before the Mage (I've had them both twice for rather long periods of time too).
Moreover, FR charts and objective headphone measurements are a very legitimate way to anchor impressions on and judge relative sound differences between headphones you heard or own (even more the case when they only differ by a 1-2.5khz mids peak like in the case of Mage vs Aero, that's quite easily verifiable with EQ) and I'm not solely relying on FR without having used both Mage and Aero. I again restate to be clear, what you say is impossible (aero - no bass, or lighter perceived bass than mage).

Based on that, your review stopped making sense to me, after I read the two sentences quoted in my original post above.

This is not about victimizing you - people make purchasing decisions based on the things you or I write. I'd rather you be offended, then someone make a purchase and find out their decision was based on bad information/false premises.
If I stated the wrong information in one of my reviews and someone had a strong opinion about it and was voicing it in a review I'd probably do my best to double check the info, but I don't know how likely you still are to have access to Aero or Mage or 3.a.
Edited by svyr - 1/20/12 at 2:05am
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post #85 of 93
1/20/12 at 2:15am
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I actually have access to both models at any time.

 

Here's another thing to note. A friend demoed the miracles and found them bass light to his preference. He purchased a pair, and found them to have overwhelming bass. After which he sold them.

 

I'm well aware of what I wrote and stand by it. Say what you want, you don't have a 3.A to compare the Aero and Mage to, and as such, your opinions are less objectifiable than mine.

 

The entire review was written as my opinion on the product. And I stated that very clearly at the start.

 

Not sure what got your panties in a twist, but I'm going to cease entertaining your baseless accusations.

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post #86 of 93
1/20/12 at 4:39am
the example w miracle is not relevant for two reasons a) going from a uni to custom can change mid bass b) miracle started w lower levels of bass and the later versions were made bass. heavy.

on the other hand there is no record of mage or aero having tuning changes and you presumably tried them both either as demo or custom.

and again my problem with your review is the completely invalid in my opinion conculsion about aero vs mage, made indirectly by comparing to 3.a. as I said from my exp with the two there is no reasonable way I can see a person having access to both aero and mage getting those impressions.
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post #87 of 93
1/20/12 at 5:07am
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I had both of them side by side for the comparative review. Both were demos.

 

Your opinions are not going to change what I heard. Clearly you have UM affiliations, there isn't a point denying it.

 

If UM isn't happy about the comparative review, I would be happy to send them my ear impressions and they can send me either the Aero or the Mage. Even then, if I hear nothing different from the demos then even that is not going to change anything.

 

Have UM pm me if they wish to seek this route.

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post #88 of 93
1/20/12 at 7:28am
not affiliated with um.

they were and still are handling my sm3 upgrade/reshell (sm3x6 to sm3x8). I did get to try their demos when I had fit and order problems. (still trying mage at the moment, but it's called customer service, not affiliation in the sense you implied. I am in a very good position to tell mage and aero appart having listened to both extensively on multiple occasions)

I could allege you have an affiliation with heir but I don't think it's worth resorting to personal attacks or tarnishing hard working companies and the points I've raised about the review speak for themselves.
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post #89 of 93
7/24/12 at 12:04am

how would these compare to something like the Vsonic GR07?

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post #90 of 93
9/25/12 at 7:04am
It's probably worth posting a reminder:
 
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