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post #16 of 33
12/9/11 at 10:01pm
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does the zo stack with a real amp, or does it act as an amp?


 

It's an amp. You'll be double amping if you use another amp with it.

Well at least the revision 1 of the Zo2 was an amp. All the IEM users complained about hiss and the second revision pretty much made the amp useless. /bitter rant


Edited by rezel - 12/9/11 at 10:03pm
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post #17 of 33
12/9/11 at 11:41pm
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ok so what I can say after listening to some FLAC Skrillex... The low end is AMAZING! They don't sound like my HD600 which is what I wanted. I definitely wanted a contrast to that particular sound. Now i did notice a ton of sibilance which I hope will smooth out with burn in. Since they are only 40Ohm I'm listening at a pretty low volume compared to the Senns which are 300Ohm.

 

I like the fit, not at comfortable as the beyers of course but definitely not uncomfortable. The headband does put a little pressure on the top of my head. Also the S-Logic does give the illusion of a wide sound stage but I'm not falling for it.They don't sound as wide as the beyers which is good because sometimes my 770 made things sound too far away.

 

I wouldn't compare these to the Senns, much to early in the burn in game plus so far they don't sound really anything alike to my ear. Bare in mind I haven't listened to the 600 in about a week. I'm gonna let these continue to burn in over the course of the next few days and check on em periodically to note any changes. I figure by sometime next week they should be good and burned in.

 

I really hope those high notes get tamed a little or else these will be getting returned for some Denons. Now I was a fan of the D7000 when I auditioned them along side the GS1000 and HD800 at B&H. They were by far my fav of those 3 with my music but out of my price range at the present moment. BTW I just hate the Grado sound. 

 

Side note: listening to Skillex - Kill Everybody is really giving me a headache frown.gif. Right now the 900 don't handle this song well at all. It has it's moments but overall presentation the HD600 has it beat right now. When these can do Skrillex, DeadMau5, DJ Shadow, and Daft Punk properly I will be truly impressed and happy. Oh one thing I do like is female vocals. I the the Ultrasone does vocals exceptionally well. 

 

Brief initial impressions,nothing technical. More to come gents wink_face.gif


Edited by AgainstTheGrain - 12/9/11 at 11:43pm
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post #18 of 33
12/12/11 at 7:37pm
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hmmm basically I think I'm going to return these. there is almost no mid range, a ton of sibilance still and I am just not enjoying them. They have been burning in since friday. no, I think I'm gonna go with a pair of denon instead. The bass is amazing but its not worth the price of admission to my ears.

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post #19 of 33
12/12/11 at 7:57pm
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after listening to these headphones with different amps and sources I believe the culprit is the Asgard not the headphones. The asgard brings out all these bad qualities in these phones. These sound much better coming from the ibasso D4 I'm testing. I'm still going to return them and save up for some d7000. those were still the best closed cans i've ever heard

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post #20 of 33
12/12/11 at 8:02pm

Unfortunate. I was considering these cans for a while but decided I'd rather stick with strictly open cans for home and IEMs for travel. I've heard great things about the bass but also about sibilant highs depending on the setup.

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post #21 of 33
12/12/11 at 10:45pm
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after listening to these headphones with different amps and sources I believe the culprit is the Asgard not the headphones. The asgard brings out all these bad qualities in these phones. These sound much better coming from the ibasso D4 I'm testing. I'm still going to return them and save up for some d7000. those were still the best closed cans i've ever heard


 

That's unfortunate to hear. I was hoping I could 'kill two birds with one stone' with the Asgard for the HD650 and the Pro 900.

I've found that the Pro 900 was amazing for my EDM but it really isn't suited to vocals and the rest of my music collection.

The highs definitely need time getting used to and I'm a self confessed treblehead.

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post #22 of 33
12/12/11 at 11:00pm

Sorry about your purchase, although now you know what you're after. I've been contemplating the D7000 as a way-in-the-future purchase. I read Denons as a whole have better tonality and presentation overall. I love my D1000s so I can only imagine how the higher-end Denons stack up. 

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post #23 of 33
12/13/11 at 1:13am

much of the sibilance for me has gone after burn in, but maybe its too much for your ears.

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post #24 of 33
12/13/11 at 5:50pm
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much of the sibilance for me has gone after burn in, but maybe its too much for your ears.

Perhaps but I'm after a warmer sound signature. They were burned in for over 72 hours. They just don't sound good through the asgard
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post #25 of 33
1/7/12 at 5:15pm

Did you ever try the Kees mod with these heapdhones? I have read that it significantly helps them.

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post #26 of 33
1/7/12 at 5:28pm
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Hope to hear what you have to say! That's a great deal. 

 

A comparison between your DT-770s an Pro 900s would be good as well. 



i can give you that right now.

 

Both are rolled off on the really really low sub-bass

the DT 770s have stronger sub-bass (deep bass), its also a little muddier though. its great for rap music and its quite overwhelming at times, great for bassheads.

the Pro 900s have really punchy mid-bass. its also a little tighter than the dt 770s. great for trance/techno music.

bass quality, its about the same since the pro 900 gains alot more impact for a loss in quality. both have bloatier bass than most headphones though.

bass speed, both are very fast headphones and very good with bass in general

 

mids. both are very recessed in the mids. the pro 900s less so. the mids are very detailed on the pro 900s and less on the beyers. mids aren't super bad though, just recessed.

 

highs. the dt 770 has really sparkly highs that can strident, burn-in helps though. overall a dark sound.

the pro 900s are less bright but have a more artificial sounding high end. this is what helps them excel in electronic music in particular.

 

soundstage, both have a medium soundstage. the dt 770 due to bigger cups and  the pro 900s due to their slogic surround technology.

 

amping, the dt 770s are harder to drive but not by much. both benefit  from amping.

 

 

overall though, the pro 900 is the better headphone. the subbass isn't as strong as the 770, but its pretty close and everything else is very similar with the beyers being a little darker sounding.

 

 

 

i have the pro 900s right now and used to own the dt 770 pro until i sold them because i upgraded to dt 990 ( i couldn't stand the recessed mids and bloaty bass. its really fun and powerful, but the bass loses alot of control and quality in exchange for it)

 

 

 

 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 1/7/12 at 5:29pm
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post #27 of 33
1/7/12 at 5:31pm
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Perhaps but I'm after a warmer sound signature. They were burned in for over 72 hours. They just don't sound good through the asgard


i recommend the beyer dt 990 600 ohm for your style of music or maybe the denon ah-d2000.

 

nice bass but slightly less. you lose some impact but gain quantity. also these are not as bright as the pro 900s.

 

 

also the pro 900s are picky on volume, too much volume and they will sound harsh which you might not like. they are very revealing and you need good bitrate stuff to help with the smoothnesss as well. i use a tube amp and it sounds great but of course, they can be bright depending on your setup.

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post #28 of 33
1/8/12 at 9:47pm
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i recommend the beyer dt 990 600 ohm for your style of music or maybe the denon ah-d2000.

 

nice bass but slightly less. you lose some impact but gain quantity. also these are not as bright as the pro 900s.

 

 

also the pro 900s are picky on volume, too much volume and they will sound harsh which you might not like. they are very revealing and you need good bitrate stuff to help with the smoothnesss as well. i use a tube amp and it sounds great but of course, they can be bright depending on your setup.


I ended up getting the AH-D7000 and they are a much much superior headphone to the PRO900. I am happier with them and they are more to my liking.

 

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post #29 of 33
2/15/12 at 8:14am
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I ended up getting the AH-D7000 and they are a much much superior headphone to the PRO900. I am happier with them and they are more to my liking.

 



ok... so you went from the sub-$500 Pro900 to $1000 Denons? Completely different ballgame in that price range, don't you think?

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post #30 of 33
2/15/12 at 8:15am

I wouldn't think so.  Most people report very minor differences between the Denons.  

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