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Alrighty. So I'm pretty newbie around here, but even though I'm a youngling of 15 year old, I absolutely refuse to be those minions at my school who have Beats or Skullcandies and think they're the best without having ANY open mind. So that's why I bought Sony Giiqs and now I'm on my Panasonic RP-DJS400 (and thinking of upgrading em soooon :) ), and also, with a Fiio E6 being shipped in the mail as we speak :)

 

Now, I'm sorta young and cant afford much, and even if I have a lot of money I dont think I'll ever get to the 1000$+ mark in this hobby for one setup, actually, I dont think I'll ever edge of 500$ as I'm a pretty active lad who likes to go outdoors, but also loves his music. ANYWAY

 

Onto the questions after the background;

 

Right now my music is coming out of my iPhone 3G, is this okay? I hear a lot of the people around the forum are using the Sansa Clip+, and while Im not dissing people who use it, I simply dont know. What difference does it make of what is storing the music? Please enlighment me :)

 

What is the best filetype for music? Mp3? Wav? AAC? Etc. Most of my songs on my iPhone are MP3 unless I distinclty told iTunes to make an AAC version (which I do incase the MP3 doesnt sync over. Not because i know what it does.) Anyway, whats the best filetype of music for quality?

 

Can someone explain kbps to me? That sounds to me more like a rate of data transfer rather than a measurement of the quality of your eargasm.

 

Can someone please explain the main ideas between the differences between gold-tipped jacks, and copper-tipped jacks, and silver and all those coatings on the jacks? How about the neodynium magnet and all those other magnets that your headphone uses?

 

Also. Whats a soundstage? I have a gyst of what it is, but I cant seem to throw it into words :S

 

Sorry for the enslew of questions, but would love if theyd get answered. Thanks!

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Alrighty. So I'm pretty newbie around here, but even though I'm a youngling of 15 year old, I absolutely refuse to be those minions at my school who have Beats or Skullcandies and think they're the best without having ANY open mind. So that's why I bought Sony Giiqs and now I'm on my Panasonic RP-DJS400 (and thinking of upgrading em soooon :) ), and also, with a Fiio E6 being shipped in the mail as we speak :)

 

Now, I'm sorta young and cant afford much, and even if I have a lot of money I dont think I'll ever get to the 1000$+ mark in this hobby for one setup, actually, I dont think I'll ever edge of 500$ as I'm a pretty active lad who likes to go outdoors, but also loves his music. ANYWAY

 

Onto the questions after the background;

 

Right now my music is coming out of my iPhone 3G, is this okay? I hear a lot of the people around the forum are using the Sansa Clip+, and while Im not dissing people who use it, I simply dont know. What difference does it make of what is storing the music? Please enlighment me :)

 

Yes, it's ok, Iphones are pretty decent :) The difference resides in the the section that converts the digital signal into an analog signal (DAC) and the section that amplifies this signal to feed your headphones (AMP).

 

What is the best filetype for music? Mp3? Wav? AAC? Etc. Most of my songs on my iPhone are MP3 unless I distinctly told iTunes to make an AAC version (which I do incase the MP3 doesn't sync over. Not because i know what it does.) Anyway, whats the best filetype of music for quality?

 

The consensus is that aac is slightly better than mp3, especially at low kbps ( < 192), with files above 220 kbps, the difference is much less significant and close enough to the original uncompressed file to be considered indistinguishable but the majority of people. Wav is the said uncompressed original file, it is also outdated and obsolete because of the creation of lossless formats, as their name indicate, they compress music with losing any quality, think of it as a playable zip file for music. The most used ones are FLAC and ALAC (Apple Lossless), the iDevices support the latter. A compression/decompression algorithm is called a codec.

 

Can someone explain kbps to me? That sounds to me more like a rate of data transfer rather than a measurement of the quality of your eargasm.

 

While the lossless codecs compress without losing quality (you may notice that they compress less than lossy codecs), the lossy codecs throw away some data when they compress, the algorithm ensures that what's thrown away are the least audible (and sometimes totally inaudible) parts. But the more you compress (lower bitrates/kbps) the more audible the thrown away data gets. Thus, high kbps / low compression files are of higher quality.

 

You should also be aware that once the data is thrown away due to a lossy compression, converting it to a higher bitrate is useless, it's like emptying half a bottle of orange juice and filling the half emptied bottle with water, you end up with diluted orange juice. As a general rule, converting lossily compressed files (mp3 or aac) is useless at best and harmful to sound quality most of the time.

 

Can someone please explain the main ideas between the differences between gold-tipped jacks, and copper-tipped jacks, and silver and all those coatings on the jacks? How about the neodynium magnet and all those other magnets that your headphone uses?

 

Jacks are typically gold covered to prevent corrosion of the base metal, there are no further use of gold, as far as I know copper tipped jacks don't exist.

 

Neodymium magnets produce a stronger magnetic field for the same mass compared to other magnets, it allows more compact magnets with the same magnetic field. However simply stating neodymium magnets in the spec sheet is simply advertising buzz, the shape of the magnet, how it is implemented also matter, simply telling you it uses neodymium magnets does not give you any significant information regarding sound quality.

 

Also. Whats a soundstage? I have a gyst of what it is, but I cant seem to throw it into words :S

 

Soundstage is a generic term we use to describe how realistic the spacialization is; for example, if a band is playing, do the players sound squished together in the middle, or are they just on the sides with a big whole in the middle, do they sound like they are playing in a small room when it was in fact recorded in a concert hall...

 

Finally, the playback gear you are using is only half of the equation, the other half is how well recorded the music was and how good the sound engineers were at retranscribing what they hear 'live' on CD.

 

Sorry for the enslew of questions, but would love if theyd get answered. Thanks!


 

 

 

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Ohhh alrighty! Thanks, I can genuinely say I understood everything you said! Thanks, thats a real help!
 
Though just one quick question. Whats the difference in sound (not on paper) of the neodynium magnets in headphones than all the other types of magnets? Does it have more potential for power or is it something else?
 
Edit: Oh also. What in words is a sound signature? I get the gyst of it; but cant word it out. It's kinda like a EQ built into the headphones but it isnt exactly that :S I cant explain it, can you? ;o It'd be nice to get just solid fact out of what all these terms mean

Edited by elemein - 12/7/11 at 10:25pm
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Ohhh alrighty! Thanks, I can genuinely say I understood everything you said! Thanks, thats a real help!
 
You're welcome, I tried to write clearly enough for a beginner to understand.
 
Though just one quick question. Whats the difference in sound (not on paper) of the neodynium magnets in headphones than all the other types of magnets? Does it have more potential for power or is it something else?
 
Impossible to tell, it depends to much on structure and implementation. A samarium-cobalt magnet could be molded to creat the exact same magnetic field that a neodymium one, in this case you'd have the exact same sound, you'd just have to use a little more samarium-cobalt that neodymium.
 
Edit: Oh also. What in words is a sound signature? I get the gyst of it; but cant word it out. It's kinda like a EQ built into the headphones but it isnt exactly that :S I cant explain it, can you? ;o It'd be nice to get just solid fact out of what all these terms mean
 
What people describe as sound signature is basically the tonal balance of the headphone, ie. if it's bass heavy, treble heavy, with mids recessed, neutral... Though it's also highly subjective, what's bass heavy for one person could be neutral for another.


 

 

 

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You could say that each manufacturer EQs their headphones differently when they design them. For example, I have a pair of V-MODA Crossfade LP2s here which have a LOT of bass but far less treble, as they were designed for club DJs who listen loud. On the other hand, I've owned Sennheiser HD-800s and other "high-end" headphones which have a considerably greater emphasis in the treble as people who use them often like classical music or jazz and want to hear the instruments clearly, but aren't interested in a boomy bass.

 

Also, due to the way everyone's ears are physically different, when we use headphones, we hear  the music differently. Some people will hear more or less treble, some will hear more or less bass. Not to mention, different types of music have different amounts of treble and bass and modern music is compressed after recording to make everything the same loudness, sometimes to the point it distorts.  As well, headphones can sound different depending on what system they are used with (for various technical reasons not worth going into at present). The result is you'll find very polarising opinions about a single model.

 

At the top of this forum there are some links, such as the Glossary of Terms that you'll find useful, if you haven't already read them.  It takes a while to get used to everything as audio isn't a simple subject.

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Ah alright, thanks you too, my questions about the terms and stuff are about all wrapped up. I think I understand everything a bit more now and will take a gander at that glossary I hadnt noticed before even though I searched for a glossary before :S Weird. Anyway, thanks guys!

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