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post #496 of 1498

I would get the variety pack (if they still sell it), because large is not large (it's actually extra large).

 

 

http://www.earplugstore.com/proguard-earportz-earphone-adapters.html

post #497 of 1498

And I should say those round ridges could initially feel a bit weird but feel comfortable fairly quickly. Of course, if you're one who can't with tips with a deep insertion, then these tips aren't for you. 

post #498 of 1498

Thanks for the info and I have no problem with tips that have deep insertion point.

post #499 of 1498

Here is the trial pack with one pair of each size of the EarPortz, if anyone is interested.

 

http://www.earplugstore.com/proguard-earportz-earphone-adapters-trial.html

post #500 of 1498
If I'm comfortable with the large silicon tips. Which size should I be getting?

Can the tip double up on my tf10?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I would get the variety pack (if they still sell it), because large is not large (it's actually extra large).


http://www.earplugstore.com/proguard-earportz-earphone-adapters.html
post #501 of 1498
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

If I'm comfortable with the large silicon tips. Which size should I be getting?
Can the tip double up on my tf10?
Thanks

I use the large tips (XL) in theses. These are suppose to stretch over wide bore nozzles too, but something like TF10. I can't say it won't, but I can say it will take a hack of a lot of effort. I remember trying and giving when I had my TF10s.

post #502 of 1498

It has been done before.

 

Eric, how does the sound with the EarPortz compare with the Complys that TDK included?

post #503 of 1498
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post

It has been done before.

 

Eric, how does the sound with the EarPortz compare with the Complys that TDK included?

mids and treble still pristine, but bass deeper and more forward. It brings the bass out more than the Complys, which I think tunes out some of the mids slightly with the Comply foams.

post #504 of 1498

I have to say that the BA200 may have some of the best mids I've heard in a universal BA earphone. And the bass is just right for me with the Earportz tips. Very nice. Finally giving the IE800 a run for its money, although I still dig the dynamic dual driver a lot. I think the IE800 gives more instrument separation, and it's not like if you heard the BA200 you've heard the IE800. Both are tuned somewhat differently.

post #505 of 1498
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I have to say that the BA200 may have some of the best mids I've heard in a universal BA earphone. And the bass is just right for me with the Earportz tips. Very nice. Finally giving the IE800 a run for its money, although I still dig the dynamic dual driver a lot. I think the IE800 gives more instrument separation, and it's not like if you heard the BA200 you've heard the IE800. Both are tuned somewhat differently.

Agree, vocals and other midrange instruments sound amazing. I have the SM3 and I think the BA200's mids are more natural, don't get me wrong, the SM3 to my ears present music in a whole new way which I like very much, but the mids are somewhat different. Not better, not worse, just different.

Diana Krall's voice is absolutely amazing on both IEMs, with the SM3 sounding like you are in her concert with absolutely amazing sound system, and the BA200 sounding like she's in a room with no mic, no speakers, just the piano and her voice.

At least, to my ears.
post #506 of 1498
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Originally Posted by Annafrancesca View Post

Diana Krall's voice is absolutely amazing on both IEMs, with the SM3 sounding like you are in her concert with absolutely amazing sound system, and the BA200 sounding like she's in a room with no mic, no speakers, just the piano and her voice.
At least, to my ears.

 

What tips did you settle on for your BA200? I'm having trouble deciding which tips are best for me as every pair of tips that I try on sounds different. The top three sound quality wise for me (unranked):

 

Stock Complys: a bit too dark/laid back for my liking, though it works well for comfort and long-duration fatigue-free listening, also somewhat against Complys for durability/ease of use

Stock biflanges: a bit too bright overall for me (cymbals especially sound unnaturally bright) and the midbass is diminished a bit too much, but the clarity is very good

Shure soft flex single flange tips (modded to fit tighter): mids are more forward, soundspace is more intimate, bass fine, treble pretty well extended, but hints of sibilance appear at times (maybe the recording/mastering)

 

The odd thing is that even though the stock biflanges sound brighter overall, I experience less sibilance with those than the Shure soft flex tips. Maybe they are attenuating some sibilant frequencies but the frequency range is extending higher, not sure.

 

I ended up ordering all sizes of both the EarPortz and the new Westone Star Silicone tips, so I'm hoping a pair from one of those will be my perfect tips.

 

I'm also experimenting with the Etymotic P->S adapter (+75 Ohm impedance) that I have, and using that pretty much gives me 3 more sound signatures to choose from...


Edited by PeterDLai - 12/18/12 at 3:04am
post #507 of 1498
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I have to say that the BA200 may have some of the best mids I've heard in a universal BA earphone. And the bass is just right for me with the Earportz tips. Very nice. Finally giving the IE800 a run for its money, although I still dig the dynamic dual driver a lot. I think the IE800 gives more instrument separation, and it's not like if you heard the BA200 you've heard the IE800. Both are tuned somewhat differently.

 

ericp10, How do you compare TDK BA200 sonic signature against AT CK10?

post #508 of 1498
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Originally Posted by NewForce View Post

 

ericp10, How do you compare TDK BA200 sonic signature against AT CK10?

 

I can't compare the two as I have never heard the CK10. Sorry.

post #509 of 1498
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Originally Posted by Annafrancesca View Post


Agree, vocals and other midrange instruments sound amazing. I have the SM3 and I think the BA200's mids are more natural, don't get me wrong, the SM3 to my ears present music in a whole new way which I like very much, but the mids are somewhat different. Not better, not worse, just different.
Diana Krall's voice is absolutely amazing on both IEMs, with the SM3 sounding like you are in her concert with absolutely amazing sound system, and the BA200 sounding like she's in a room with no mic, no speakers, just the piano and her voice.
At least, to my ears.

I agree.

post #510 of 1498
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post

 

What tips did you settle on for your BA200? I'm having trouble deciding which tips are best for me as every pair of tips that I try on sounds different. The top three sound quality wise for me (unranked):

 

Stock Complys: a bit too dark/laid back for my liking, though it works well for comfort and long-duration fatigue-free listening, also somewhat against Complys for durability/ease of use

Stock biflanges: a bit too bright overall for me (cymbals especially sound unnaturally bright) and the midbass is diminished a bit too much, but the clarity is very good

Shure soft flex single flange tips (modded to fit tighter): mids are more forward, soundspace is more intimate, bass fine, treble pretty well extended, but hints of sibilance appear at times (maybe the recording/mastering)

 

The odd thing is that even though the stock biflanges sound brighter overall, I experience less sibilance with those than the Shure soft flex tips. Maybe they are attenuating some sibilant frequencies but the frequency range is extending higher, not sure.

 

I ended up ordering all sizes of both the EarPortz and the new Westone Star Silicone tips, so I'm hoping a pair from one of those will be my perfect tips.

 

I'm also experimenting with the Etymotic P->S adapter (+75 Ohm impedance) that I have, and using that pretty much gives me 3 more sound signatures to choose from...

 

Whether it's the Earportz or something else, I've found that the tips that gives you the deepest insertion is going to help the BA200 shine to its fullest. And a deep silicon tips at that. The Earportz tips make the BA200 sound significantly close to the brilliance of the W4 (I would say it's about two notches behind as the W4 has it beat in note weight, details, bass and imagery, but the BA200 is not that far behind at all). This is a great BA earphone for under a $150 (although I know it originally lists for about $300) to be so close to the W4. 

The SM3 was a very good BA earphone, but I always felt it was too forward (or too syrupy) for me. I actually enjoyed the SM2 better. So of all the BA "universal" earphones I've owned and heard, I would rank the W4 first still, but then the BA200 (it's a very dynamic sounding BA). I haven't changed my rankings at the bottom yet, but there will be some significant changes shortly in BA and dynamic rankings. 

I've haven't the Phonak 232 yet, but I'm hearing it's pretty outstanding too. What is the best BA I've heard period (universal or custom)? A full review is to come later, but it would have to be the 1964 EARS V6. It's one amazing IEM. And the Quads are still up there too, but V6 easily surpasses them. I think the BA200, however, might currently be the best bang for the buck in balanced armature IEMs.


Edited by ericp10 - 12/18/12 at 9:13am
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