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post #886 of 1373
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Originally Posted by FarCry View Post

 

 

 

can you hear any hiss from the sansa clip zip (16 Ohms)?

 

 

apart from that all that youve said are normal i would say. hisoundaudio rocoo p has impedance next to the earphones target, while audinst hud-mx1 is below 5 Ohms. So because of its high sensitivity rating it would be ok to hear a little hiss

Yes there is hiss on the sansa clip zip, but it's quite a bit less than the rocoo p. 

post #887 of 1373

Most importantly for the impedance stabiliser is that apart from the little hiss which is a normal thing to happen is that there is no change in the frequency range and in particular in the treble region as the impedance stays as linear as it can.

 

 

Did you notice difference in the treble region with your multiple sources? You only mentioned soundstage and i dont know if this is related to the frequency response graph
 


Edited by FarCry - 4/25/13 at 2:55pm
post #888 of 1373
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Originally Posted by FarCry View Post

Most importantly for the impedance stabiliser is that apart from the little hiss which is a normal thing to happen is that there is no change in the frequency range and in particular in the treble region as the impedance stays as linear as it can.

 

 

Did you notice difference in the treble region with your multiple sources? You only mentioned soundstage and i dont know if this is related to the frequency response graph
 

Well soundstage is the biggest difference with the different sources. There's not much difference in the treble when I'm switching between sources. Atleast it wasn't anything memorable! 

post #889 of 1373

Hi guys!

 

Anyone lucky enough to audition both the XBA-30 and BA-200?

 

Looking for something to compliment my Brainwavz B2 - namely something more airy with a better soundstage (highest priority) + slightly more musical and warmer - without compromising too much on transparency, detail and treble extension.


Edited by isis - 4/25/13 at 5:15pm
post #890 of 1373
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Originally Posted by isis View Post

Hi guys!

Anyone lucky enough to audition both the XBA-30 and BA-200?

Looking for something to compliment my Brainwavz B2 - namely something more airy with a better soundstage (highest priority) + slightly more musical and warmer - without compromising too much on transparency, detail and treble extension.

I listened the XBA-3 for a like 20 minutes on two separate occasions at the Sony store. It wa pretty loud though. I didn't think it was anything too special, but many here would disagree. It's a wierd one like the XBA-4 though in that it was somewhat dark and bright at the same time. I definitely wouldnt call them transparent. Soundstage was less expansive than the XBA-4 though. The BA200 has a more well rounded Soundstage with better depth representation which makes it interesting. The BA200 from memory puts noticeably less emphasis on the treble but has more clarity and a blacker background.

Personally, I had the B2 for a bit and I went to the GR07 after and in terms of soundstage, it had everything I thought the B2 was missing. While its soundstage is less well rounded than the BA200 giving up height and depth, it had an out of head feeling that the BA200 hasn't been able to give me, which I attribute to what I deem as better near field imaging and width. I think either would be a great compliment to the B2.
post #891 of 1373

the XBA 3 and 30 has a weird impedance graph and there must be a good source to drive them correctly. So it really depends on the source.
 

 

 

take a look here

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/xYR1EN5.jpg

 

 

impedance problem starting from 11 till 90

 

 

FR response reminds a bit of shure 215 with emphasis in the bass area

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EvAAXfUSLtE/UVsobcXaZaI/AAAAAAAAFlo/Rlec_WGXExA/s1600/ANY_0403034914.gif

 

 

and from the CSD there is a gap in the FR decay around the mid frequencies

 

 

distortion is a bit high reaching 1%

 

 

 

Id call BA200 technically better

post #892 of 1373

Hey Isis :

 

PM Flysweep he has owned the BA 200's and I believe he may still have his Sony XBA30's. 

 

He is currently working with T Peos H 200's and he may still also have the Hifiman Waterline RE 400's.

 

He is amazingly insightful and thorough in hisexplanations.   A true gentleman and headphile.  It was his

 

PM's that convinced me to buy the TDK's.   They are phenomenal.  I will not readily go to something else...although

 

I originally lusted after another pair of 200's.  The T Peos!  They just took to long.  My setup is ridiculously front end weighted right now

 

but my Neco V3 and TDK's, which were originally for my Portable, scale up ridiculously well.   On vocals the combo is superlative.

 

My front end is currently a somewhat older dual core Athlon all in one touch  run on Jplay in full hibernate in the new Ultrastream mode.  I

 

use a much older home built Athlon dual core as my control PC wirelessly connected in Audiostreamer configuration to control the Audio

 

PC.  I had those so not a biggie...but then I got silly and got an Ultra Fi  NOS 16 bit dedicated USB dac designed by Larry Moore for a

 

great  price on Audiogon.  I had it upgraded to current spec...put an Aubisque filter and Aubisque USB cable on it.   That is all really

 

intended for a  good DIY stereo system  I am gradually working on.   I can tell you that the Neco and the TDK take it all in stride and

 

let me hear everything it does.  I have tweaked my digital setup relentlessly and even the most subtle things are quite noticeable.

 

I stole my BA 200's on ebay, they were 1 week old  without the small foam tips.  I must say that I prefer them to the Grado Refrence 1's I

 

had about 5 years ago.  So I've got a couple thousand on the front end...hehehehe...and  a couple hundred on the tail and I just can't

 

believe how incredibly  satisfying the combo is.  I am not in any hurry to finish my gainclones and Single Driver Transmission lines.

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtriode

post #893 of 1373
I went from the comply's to using the plastic core of the comply to make the Sony hybrids fit. Wow, the low end is ultra punchy now.., has anyone else experienced this?
post #894 of 1373
I went from the comply's to using the plastic core of the comply to make the Sony hybrids fit. Wow, the low end is ultra punchy now.., has anyone else experienced this?[/quoteIi

Interesting! Try putting the complys themselves into the silicone tips. As a filler. I use hole punched earplugs to fill the top and bottom of the large dual flame tips. The seal is awesome and everything improves. Earplug foam is much denser with higher noise attenuation. But you will find using. The foam as a filler will help better seal your silicones.
post #895 of 1373
Anyone willing to lend ljokerl a BA200? Think everyone here is curious as to how it stands
post #896 of 1373

has anyone felt this or its just me, the sound tilts a bit to left side, sorta channel imbalance, not overly but i would say a little, ruins the whole experience. the soundstage is so awesome in these.

post #897 of 1373

Moreover, theres slight hiss with my fiio E11, do they respond to amping or i should use them straight from HO.

 

In case of vocals, i dont how to express this but it goes shshshshsssss at treble peak, damn am so sibilant to treble.

 

Its sibilant, they sound better from my creative soundcard, less hiss as compared to iphone 4s.

post #898 of 1373
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Moreover, theres slight hiss with my fiio E11, do they respond to amping or i should use them straight from HO.

 

In case of vocals, i dont how to express this but it goes shshshshsssss at treble peak, damn am so sibilant to treble.

 

Its sibilant, they sound better from my creative soundcard, less hiss as compared to iphone 4s.

No I don't think they are sibilant, if you hear sibilance it is in the recording. I also don't hear a tilted sound, I think you may have a faulty pair.
Also hiss isn't the BA200s fault, it's the fault of the source.

post #899 of 1373
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 it's the fault of the source

might be but i dont have this problem with my other IEMs. Anyway, the hiss is bearable now, infact  negligible, maybe a part of mental burnin.

But channel imbalance is still there, when controlled through R-L balance through my laptop, the R-side takes extra 9% to make it balance. They sound awesome then.

Anyone, know how to control R-L output in iphone?

 

Regards

post #900 of 1373

No channel mismatch is out of the question according to rin's analysis. hiss goes with the source with high impedance as it was already mentioned previously

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