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post #16 of 25

Personally, I found the HTF600s to be better than the XB500s, even after both have been equalized. The XB500s had more bass quantity and a tighter bass (not that the HTF600 lacked bass quantity), but I preferred the warm HTF600 sound signature. 

post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by SanjiWatsuki View Post

Personally, I found the HTF600s to be better than the XB500s, even after both have been equalized. The XB500s had more bass quantity and a tighter bass (not that the HTF600 lacked bass quantity), but I preferred the warm HTF600 sound signature. 

Thanks for the opinion.

 

Would like to hear more opinions on either headphones!

post #18 of 25

I also prefer HTF600 over XB500 BUT only together with digiZoid ZO amp + very slight EQing as otherwise I'd find the bass extension to be lacking. I'm such a spoilt basshead though that I don't care about the headphone if bassresponse isn't up-to-par, ie, it has to have enough quantity, excellent extension and has to be as evenly boosted as possible from like 15Hz all the way to 200Hz and good enough impact to it while not being completely all over the place but not too tight either.

 

Bass put aside HTF600 has significantly better quality in the mids, you can really hear what I at first thought XB500 had nice midrange after you EQ it correctly so you get rid of the excess smoothness/"muddiness" in the midrange that it is still somewhat lacking. The presence of mids on the XB500 is fine really (about the same level as HTF600 actually), it's just the tonality is slightly off, you can really hear it's quite uneven in the mids, some frequencies stick out a lot more than the others what my 10-band EQ can't correct, especially around 1.5 ~ 2kHz it's very forward in the mids which gets this slight nasal sound to it why it helps if you up both the 500Hz and 1kHz on a typical 10-band EQ to balance it out. The HTF600 has more neutral sounding mids, you can really hear the mids are very even and quite forward on the HTF600 once you've burnt in the headphone (I also think boosting the highs just a very little does wonders to the midrange on this headphone too). 

 

But yea after HTF600 + tiny bit EQing and with digiZoid ZO amp set to level 6-7 (out of max 32) it sounds pretty much perfect and very impressive for something that costs less than $50, I had personally evalutated that sound more like $150+ sound but then again the amp costs $100 too.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/6/11 at 12:01pm
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

I also prefer HTF600 over XB500 BUT only together with digiZoid ZO amp + very slight EQing as otherwise I'd find the bass extension to be lacking. I'm such a spoilt basshead though that I don't care about the headphone if bassresponse isn't up-to-par, ie, it has to have enough quantity, excellent extension and has to be as evenly boosted as possible from like 15Hz all the way to 200Hz and good enough impact to it while not being completely all over the place but not too tight either.

 

Bass put aside HTF600 has significantly better quality in the mids, you can really hear what I at first thought XB500 had nice midrange after you EQ it correctly so you get rid of the excess smoothness/"muddiness" in the midrange that it is still somewhat lacking. The presence of mids on the XB500 is fine really (about the same level as HTF600 actually), it's just the tonality is slightly off, you can really hear it's quite uneven in the mids, some frequencies stick out a lot more than the others what my 10-band EQ can't correct, especially around 1.5 ~ 2kHz it's very forward in the mids which gets this slight nasal sound to it why it helps if you up both the 500Hz and 1kHz on a typical 10-band EQ to balance it out. The HTF600 has more neutral sounding mids, you can really hear the mids are very even and quite forward on the HTF600 once you've burnt in the headphone (I also think boosting the highs just a very little does wonders to the midrange on this headphone too). 

 

But yea after HTF600 + tiny bit EQing and with digiZoid ZO amp set to level 6-7 (out of max 32) it sounds pretty much perfect and very impressive for something that costs less than $50, I had personally evalutated that sound more like $150+ sound but then again the amp costs $100 too.

Yea.. paying 100$ on top of the ~35$ for the headphones is over my budget.

 

Since I trust your review on the XB500 and you seem to have very detailed reasonings, I'd go ahead and purchase these cans.

 

Though I don't understand how does an amplifier make so much difference between these headphones, care to explain?

post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

I also prefer HTF600 over XB500 BUT only together with digiZoid ZO amp + very slight EQing as otherwise I'd find the bass extension to be lacking. I'm such a spoilt basshead though that I don't care about the headphone if bassresponse isn't up-to-par, ie, it has to have enough quantity, excellent extension and has to be as evenly boosted as possible from like 15Hz all the way to 200Hz and good enough impact to it while not being completely all over the place but not too tight either.

 

Bass put aside HTF600 has significantly better quality in the mids, you can really hear what I at first thought XB500 had nice midrange after you EQ it correctly so you get rid of the excess smoothness/"muddiness" in the midrange that it is still somewhat lacking. The presence of mids on the XB500 is fine really (about the same level as HTF600 actually), it's just the tonality is slightly off, you can really hear it's quite uneven in the mids, some frequencies stick out a lot more than the others what my 10-band EQ can't correct, especially around 1.5 ~ 2kHz it's very forward in the mids which gets this slight nasal sound to it why it helps if you up both the 500Hz and 1kHz on a typical 10-band EQ to balance it out. The HTF600 has more neutral sounding mids, you can really hear the mids are very even and quite forward on the HTF600 once you've burnt in the headphone (I also think boosting the highs just a very little does wonders to the midrange on this headphone too). 

 

But yea after HTF600 + tiny bit EQing and with digiZoid ZO amp set to level 6-7 (out of max 32) it sounds pretty much perfect and very impressive for something that costs less than $50, I had personally evalutated that sound more like $150+ sound but then again the amp costs $100 too.

All in all, do you think I'll do fine with the XB500 Equalized for general Dubstep music?
 

 

post #21 of 25

Now I haven't heard the XB series but I'm going to recommend the Kicker HP541. The thing is a bass monster and plays well with all types of music. I love it for dubstep and electronica. I think you would be happy with it. You can slap on velour pads on them for extra comfort too. 

post #22 of 25

In my experiences, headphones are not really improved by amplifiers unless they're running out of power from their source, and the XB500 is a headphone that really won't be running out of power from the source. In a nutshell, if a headphone is playing at a high enough volume for you from your source, you're good to go. If not, it's time to start thinking about an amplifier -- I wouldn't suggest buying both the amplifier and headphone at the same time, though. As for that amp's bass boost in particular, they try to differentiate themselves from a normal EQ, but, honestly, their explanation sounds like market BS. "Extending the low frequency cut-off?" Assuming there was even an issue with the cut-off of the low frequencies, which is only really a problem with cheap amps, they would only result in you sending a signal in the range below hearing. Not to mention their explanation for "balanced" is exactly the same logic they use when mastering poorly done pop tracks to have the maximum loudness. To me, this feature sounds like a typical EQ with a few silly tricks that almost sound counter-productive attached.

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Originally Posted by ExeQte View Post

Yea.. paying 100$ on top of the ~35$ for the headphones is over my budget.

 

Since I trust your review on the XB500 and you seem to have very detailed reasonings, I'd go ahead and purchase these cans.

 

Though I don't understand how does an amplifier make so much difference between these headphones, care to explain?



 

post #23 of 25

I have the XB-500 and the RP-HTF600.  The 500 is bassier, but even after EQing, the HTF600 sounds better.  If you're solely listening to dubstep the 500 might be the superior choice, since dubstep is so bass-heavy.  The HTF600 is better for other bassy, but more frequency-diverse genres.


Edited by LithoJazoSphere - 12/8/11 at 10:44am
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by LithoJazoSphere View Post

I have the XB-500 and the RP-HTF600.  The 500 is bassier, but even after EQing, the HTF600 sounds better.  If you're solely listening to dubstep the 500 might be the superior choice, since dubstep is so bass-heavy.  The HTF600 is better for other bassy, but more frequency-diverse genres.

Thanks for the help!

Already ordered the XB500, will get them next month :)

Well, I listen to like 80% dubstep music in general so yea I do prefer the superior bass HP's that fit to this genre.

(would describe it as 80% dubstep, 15% rock and 5% electro)

Thanks to you too @SanjiWatsuki for the explanation :D


Edited by ExeQte - 12/8/11 at 11:26am
post #25 of 25

The HTF600 is definitely better for rock because the mids and treble are more prominent.  Also for electro which has more content in the non-bass regions as well (a lot of synth and sampled parts and such).

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