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post #136 of 185

Luxman P-1 or P-1u.

post #137 of 185
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Originally Posted by FxTkd View Post

Just picked up HD800's and their fantastic!!

The question is what direction should I take in buying AMP/DAC.

I read a lot of reviews WA6se (NO DAC) and it seems the right way to go however I really have know place to demo the WA6se's.

On the other hand the Burson Conductor seems to be a great Amp/Dac combo HD800s as well.

 

I am using a MacBook Pro with VLC, playing Flac files....I am really amazed how great it sounds  just plugged in my MBP's audio jack without an amp.

In contrast Itunes, AIFF lossless souds very bad. The VLC gives it a huge improvement, as if its being amplified, Any thoughts on why?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

What's your budget?

post #138 of 185

You mentioned two outstanding units. Do you prefer tubes or Solid state? where do you live? hopefully there's a place where you can demo gear, such as the Conductor or the Soloist. 

post #139 of 185
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Originally Posted by jackwess View Post

You mentioned two outstanding units. Do you prefer tubes or Solid state? where do you live? hopefully there's a place where you can demo gear, such as the Conductor or the Soloist. 

 

 

Well, that's the dilemma. I haven't heard the WA6se and in Toronto(GTA) no dealer is carring the Woo products in their stores. The conductor is an amp I will be able to sample in a couple of weeks. I have a very hard time ordering something that I haven't teasted myself first.

The other amp/dac combo is the HDVD800. I think I will wait to test an compare the Conductor together. There is a member("thinker) in this forum that has the unit and absolutely thinks its the best amp/dac match for the HD800's and hesems well informed.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier/285

 

Any thoughts?

post #140 of 185
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Originally Posted by atomiccow View Post

The HD800 is not just choosy about the amp, its choosy about the music. It cannot do anything to improve badly recorded music with narrow soundstage. You need a much more forward phone like the LCD-2 to play this well. It is excellent for classical and jazz but not for rock and definately not electronica. 

 

Try a phone like the LCD-2, a Beyer, or a Sennhieser HD600/650. These are in general much more forward in presentation and much better recommendation for playing a wide variety of music because they will not ruin tracks with inherently narrow soundstage. I did extensive listening on my friends HD800 setup driven by a Rudistor RPX-35 before I made my decision to purchase the LCD-2. The HD800 is a dead end for rock/pop.


sadly, you toss away your LCD2 and join the HD800 club now ~~~~~

Guess HD650 is that good~~

post #141 of 185

My thoughts--

 

I had the Conductor's predecessor, the 160D -- Not my favorite amp-- I eventually sold it after relegating it to use as a DAC only.  I liked the Woo WA6 better with the HD800 than the 160D, once I got to rolling higher end tubes.  If you can go for a better amp, like the WA6SE, the sound improves dramatically. 

 

The Burson had poor shielding and was prone to picking up any noise in the area.

 

For me, the 160D was a great entry level into high end amplification, to my ears it did have a great sound stage, but it came across as harsh once I put it up against other amps-- I fell out of love with it and we agreed to be friends. 

 

I've found the HD800 to be very sensitive around 7-9khz range-- It also loves a LOT of power in reserve to move the massive cone.  The HD800 has been called "picky" about its amp pairings. 

 

The 160D seemed to emphasize the very range where the HD800 is so sensitive, and it's not a power king, so in the end-- I found it a bad match and sold it off.

 

Don't know how much the Conductor changes this dynamic, but I so enjoy the tube experience, I won't be going back.

post #142 of 185

 

+1, WA6-SE is very nice with the hd 800 and the right tubes

post #143 of 185
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Originally Posted by FxTkd View Post

 

 

Well, that's the dilemma. I haven't heard the WA6se and in Toronto(GTA) no dealer is carring the Woo products in their stores. The conductor is an amp I will be able to sample in a couple of weeks. I have a very hard time ordering something that I haven't teasted myself first.

The other amp/dac combo is the HDVD800. I think I will wait to test an compare the Conductor together. There is a member("thinker) in this forum that has the unit and absolutely thinks its the best amp/dac match for the HD800's and hesems well informed.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier/285

 

Any thoughts?

 

Sorry but where i live its hard to see this model (available to demo) plus, its designed specifically for Sennheiser hp's? 

I'd get a headamp that goes well with a wide variety of headphone brands. 

post #144 of 185
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Originally Posted by jc9394 View Post
Out of WooAudio WA22 with right tubes, it just sound as the recording is meant to be.

 

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Originally Posted by FxTkd View Post

Just picked up HD800's and their fantastic!!

The question is what direction should I take in buying AMP/DAC

 

 

Could This Be the Ultimate Headphone System?

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Edited by grokit - 3/19/13 at 7:21pm
post #145 of 185
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

 

 

 

Could This Be the Ultimate Headphone System?

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I wouldn't trust a review from anyone who spends this kind of money on cables: "AKG K701's modified to use about 15 feet of Audio Note AN-SPx speaker cable which, at last count, cost at least $1K per meter".

post #146 of 185

The HD800 might not be ideal for rock, but it's definitely more suited than the LCD-2. 

post #147 of 185
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I wouldn't trust a review from anyone who spends this kind of money on cables: "AKG K701's modified to use about 15 feet of Audio Note AN-SPx speaker cable which, at last count, cost at least $1K per meter".

Are you suggesting that a $200 headphone with $1000 cable is inferior to a $1200 headphone?! Surely, you're not! L3000.gif

post #148 of 185
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Could This Be the Ultimate Headphone System?

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I wouldn't trust a review from anyone who spends this kind of money on cables: "AKG K701's modified to use about 15 feet of Audio Note AN-SPx speaker cable which, at last count, cost at least $1K per meter".

 

I have the same setup--but not the cables--and I can confirm that the HD800 is very good out of the WA22 with the tubes mentioned. The cables are entirely optional, and I agree that they are completely unnecessary. But I would certainly use them if they were laying around, which they would be for a professional reviewer.

post #149 of 185
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Originally Posted by FxTkd View Post

 

 

Well, that's the dilemma. I haven't heard the WA6se and in Toronto(GTA) no dealer is carring the Woo products in their stores. The conductor is an amp I will be able to sample in a couple of weeks. I have a very hard time ordering something that I haven't teasted myself first.

The other amp/dac combo is the HDVD800. I think I will wait to test an compare the Conductor together. There is a member("thinker) in this forum that has the unit and absolutely thinks its the best amp/dac match for the HD800's and hesems well informed.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/605444/sennheiser-hdvd800-headphone-amplifier/285

 

Any thoughts?

Come to the audio show this weekend in Montreal, you will be able to try all Woo products. We also sell Burson products and the new Sennheiser amps in the store I work at currentyl 


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post #150 of 185
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

Come to the audio show this weekend in Montreal, you will be able to try all Woo products. We also sell Burson products and the new Sennheiser amps in the store I work at currentyl 


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I am in Toronto. I wish I could just drive down this weekend, unfortunately work takes precedent.
I would like to ask you what is your honest opinion between the Burson Conductor vs HDVD 800 for the hd800s.
Btw, what's the name of your store?
Thanks
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