iBasso DX100 Reference DAP - ES9018 inside - Page 6

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc 

 

No. At $1000, this product would be in the high end sweet spot. If it's good, it will sell

Good for you and those who are rich.

Too bad I belong to the majority who will not be able to afford it at 1k. The market is screaming for a good affordable DAP with good UI.

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc 

No. At $1000, this product would be in the high end sweet spot. If it's good, it will sell

It would have to:

Have 20hrs+ battery

Have 32GB memory and uSD slot

Have excellent DAC/ AMP section

Lots of output options

Polished UI/ OS

And probably a few additional things.

Then, after some deliberation I might think about buying it.

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Originally Posted by uelover 

Good for you and those who are rich.

 

Too bad I belong to the majority who will not be able to afford it at 1k. The market is screaming for a good affordable DAP with good UI.

+1

1000$

Lets go back to good ol Teclast (and  wait)...

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Originally Posted by Szadzik 

 

 

It would have to:

 

Have 20hrs+ battery

Have 32GB memory and uSD slot

Have excellent DAC/ AMP section

Lots of output options

Polished UI/ OS

 

And probably a few additional things.

 

Then, after some deliberation I might think about buying it.

If the rumored specs are for real, it will have last 4 of what you mentioned. Battery life remains to be seen,

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Originally Posted by uelover 

Good for you and those who are rich.

 

Too bad I belong to the majority who will not be able to afford it at 1k. The market is screaming for a good affordable DAP with good UI.

You're missing my point. The issue is with presumptuous statements that equate one's own circumstances with the market. "I wouldn't buy it. I think there's better value to be had. Therefore it will be dead in the water before it's had a chance to even crawl." That logic is simply wrong.

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc 

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You're missing my point. The issue is with presumptuous statements that equate one's own circumstances with the market. "I wouldn't buy it. I think there's better value to be had. Therefore it will be dead in the water before it's had a chance to even crawl." That logic is simply wrong.

 

I am not the one who said that it will be dead in the water before it's had a chance to even crawl. That is not my logic and neither is that my point.

It is just like if there is now a new high quality automobile selling it at the price of a BMW, I will not buy it not because it is not good - it is because I just simply can't afford something of the BMW pricetag, simple as that.

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Originally Posted by uelover 

I am not the one who said that it will be dead in the water before it's had a chance to even crawl. That is not my logic and neither is that my point.

 

Okay. But you wrote that 'good for you' comment.. So stop writing posts that disagree with people that disagree with things that you don't agree with yourself. Sheesh!   ;-)

uelover : for someone who already has as good a setup as yours to call out unaffordable, I think you just spoke the minds of us working class people/struggling students.. 

Point is if the product has a business case to sell at $1000, it will.

Business cases are built upon (prices vs. deliverables of product x volume of sales needed to sustain production) that people are currently buying at currently.

If $1000 doesn't sell, does 900 or 800 or 400 make better sense to achieve the maximum turnover sales for the manufacturer to sustain 1. production lines and 2. R&D for future developments? 

These questions are for their management to answer. 

Let's sit tight and keep wishing for a good price. 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc 

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Okay. But you wrote that 'good for you' comment.. So stop writing posts that disagree with people that disagree with things that you don't agree with yourself. Sheesh!   ;-)

Huh when I say good for you, I am not being sarcastic! I really mean that you are blessed to be able to afford it.

If iBasso really set the price at 1k, it will mean that they are only interested in targeting the top tier portable audio market which comprises of the rich people. Even if the product is every bit worth it, 1k is really beyond reach of many people.

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc 

 

No. At $1000, this product would be in the high end sweet spot. If it's good, it will sell
 

 

yep, with the hardware that has to be in there and the considerable amount of R&D that will have gone into it, thats probably closer to the mark. having built something for myself very similar, but without the economy of scale mine once the final CNC alloy chassis is done will have cost me ~2K. now going by spec i suspect mine is a bit more overkill on the audio and power supply side, but doesnt have CPU, wifi, large colour screen. do remember this is an all in one that will replace the triple stacks and those already talking about using external amps should probably wait and see. with the amount of swing they say it has only stupidly high impedance headphones will need more voltage. 

who shouldnt even be considering such purchases anyway

To be honest, I'm just glad to finally see some competition in this niche audiophile sector of the DAP market. Sony's 'Z-series' Android DAP looks like an interesting product but I'd be astonished if it's in anything close to the same league as the C4, 801 or DX100.

An interesting start to 2012, methinks!

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Originally Posted by Jonah 

I must respectfully disagree. I've had a 5.5G iPod 30GB since 2006 that I used to exercise and run with regularly (in a case clipped to my waist). I've used regularly for most of the past five years. I always kept it in a good case (Contour Showcase). The hard drive never failed, nor did any other component. About a week ago I upgraded it with a 240GB Toshiba MK2431GAH, which I bought on the internet for about half of what you quoted. It's readily available for about $120. So, still half the price of MicroSD card flash memory, $0.50/GB vs. $1/GB (of course, to a manufacturer both costs would be less). But with flash memory there is the additional expense of building an internal system to have multiple units work together (if you want more than just one card at a time), as there are no 240GB MicroSD cards, and as you go to higher capacity cards they get much more expensive than $1/GB. But flash memory is getting better and cheaper (on a predictable, Kryder's Law-type incline) while new 1.8" HDDs haven't been introduced in a while and are more of a niche product with less of a development push, so we might reach parity in just a few years. But for now I prefer a hard drive. I don't have to carry a special case of SD cards and constantly swap them and arrange my files on them alphabetically and go insane. I also save a good deal of money. And with 1.8", if you have the money and you don't like the hard drive, it's possible to just swap in an SSD.

Fair enough. Each to their own. 

At that price range it will put itself up against many units, it really has to be good otherwise it might have been one costly experiment for them! For me it all goes down to resolution/sounds/amp. Net access and extended battery life for me is just a bonus, I really do not care about such features. 

wow, this sounds very interesting. i initially thought of getting the 801, but the ui is pretty terrible, so hopefully this will be good!

can't wait to hear some impressions on these^^