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post #16 of 23
12/3/11 at 1:40pm


With your configuration, you would drive the analog signal from wherever your source is, into the EQ, and then from the EQ into the pre-amplifier. Any reason you can't do this EQ operation in your media player (like foobar or something)? Even Windows Media Player has a 10-band EQ. 

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

DEQ2496 is just perhaps overkill and costs like 250 EUR which is quite a lot more than I'd want to pay and besides I have no idea how I should connect it and also should amps be placed before or after it.



 

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post #17 of 23
12/3/11 at 7:35pm
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Any reason you can't do this EQ operation in your media player (like foobar or something)? Even Windows Media Player has a 10-band EQ. 


1. Media players EQ doesn't cover Youtube watching nor gaming

2. Media players EQ has low quality -> colorisation, phase shifting, easy to distort/clip

3. Media players EQ usually doesn't have accurate values IF they even have any values

 

I need something that applies the EQ settings for anything I do on the comp, it's not like EQing is for music listening only. :)

 

Would I have to buy some XLR to stereo converter cables or maybe RCA to stereo cables to hook up such an EQ as DEQ2496 to a soundcard? I've never dealth with the connectors available on that EQ, only stereo and RCA cables. :P


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/3/11 at 7:47pm
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post #18 of 23
12/3/11 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


1. Media players EQ doesn't cover Youtube watching nor gaming

2. Media players EQ has low quality -> colorisation, phase shifting, easy to distort/clip

3. Media players EQ usually doesn't have accurate values IF they even have any values

 

I need something that applies the EQ settings for anything I do on the comp, it's not like EQing is for music listening only. :)

 

Would I have to buy some XLR to stereo converter cables or maybe RCA to stereo cables to hook up such an EQ as DEQ2496 to a soundcard? I've never dealth with the connectors available on that EQ, only stereo and RCA cables. :P


Yes, it is usually just a matter of cables and adapters.  Just think of the soundcard as any other consumer audio device, it has inputs and outputs.  So connect the outputs of the card to the inputs of the EQ and the EQ's outputs to the next thing in the line... 

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post #19 of 23
12/3/11 at 8:02pm
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I've also been eyeing this http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ3102.aspx - costs 109 EUR only which is more within the budget if I was to concider a hardware EQ. Seems reasonable for a stereo 31-band EQ and from Behringer if you ask me.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/3/11 at 8:07pm
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post #20 of 23
12/3/11 at 8:08pm
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I've also been eyeing this http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ3102.aspx - costs 109 EUR only which is more within the budget if I was to concider a hardware EQ.


You can use a hardware EQ easily as I said, it is all a matter of cables and/or adapters.

Provided all the devices are line level, it is just a matter of signal flow.

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post #21 of 23
12/4/11 at 7:36am
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Well I'm just scared of overdriving the ZO portable amp if placed after in the chain, seems like you can adjust the input/output gain on this EQ so should be fine if I don't set it too high I suppose. So you think this FBQ3102 would be somewhat ok, don't find much info on it? At least the price is affordable.

 

Would still need to figure out what kind of source would be a good fit though, I actually really like the sound of this Realtek HD chip but the electrical noise is driving me nuts sometimes. It's dead silent most of the time but when HDD starts working or some flash video ad on a webpage etc it starts sounding like a chainsaw almost. :P


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/4/11 at 7:55am
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post #22 of 23
12/4/11 at 3:54pm

I should chime in here...

 

-The X-Fi Titanium HD is indeed a true X-Fi card, with the EMU20k2 DSP. It has Game Mode and Audio Creation Mode, and the OpenAL flags say that it does indeed have 128 channels and supports EAX 5 in hardware. (It even has the EAX-RAM flag enabled with 64 MB, a feature not advertised on the packaging, strangely enough.)

 

-Stereo/2.1 and Headphone mode on all X-Fi cards I've tried (Prelude, Forte, Titanium HD) is indistinguishable sound-wise. SineGen testing reveals no changes whatsoever. The difference is that the CMSS-3D option changes accordingly (from CMSS-3D Headphone to CMSS-3D Virtual for stereo loudspeakers), Windows speaker settings are automatically synced (they can only run desynced with X-Fi drivers set to Headphone), and volume changes to the last setting for speakers or headphones. And of course, DirectSound3D and OpenAL games both think you have two stereo loudspeakers placed in front of you, not headphones with drivers next to your ears.

 

-With the X-Fi card set to Headphones, nothing sounds different if you change Windows' sound setting between stereo and 5.1/7.1, so I naturally leave it at the latter for games with software-processed audio engines that read the Windows setting. In addition, sounds are downmixed automatically regardless of whether CMSS-3D Headphone is on or off, so nothing is missing channel-wise. Of course, running with CMSS-3D Headphone off severely impairs imaging in games for me, while hindering clarity in music with it on; good thing it's so easy to switch on and off!

 

Are you sure there isn't any placebo going on here?


Edited by NamelessPFG - 12/4/11 at 3:56pm
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post #23 of 23
12/4/11 at 4:06pm
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I'm sure, I even saved some fraps movies I recorded with headphone vs 2.1/5.1 speakers etc and it sounded different, deleted those files though but I've always noticed a difference when changing between headphone mode and 2.1 speakers even with everything else disabled in Creative's software. It has improved bigtime since Audigy days but doesn't still sound as transparent as it should. I've also never cared much for CMSS3D, too large sound quality impact for my taste even for games. If the sound quality impact is too large (the treble sounds very grainy) I don't want to use it.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/4/11 at 4:10pm
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