UE TripleFi 10 or Etymotic ER-4P for Classical/Jazz - Page 3

Boom. Roasted.

I owned both, sold TF10 mostly due to fit and size issues, but also didn't think it was anywhere near as strong as the ER4P with mids/highs as much.

Still interested in trying a Westone pair one of these days, but a grad student budget forces contentment.

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Originally Posted by ZoNtO 

Boom. Roasted.

 

I owned both, sold TF10 mostly due to fit and size issues, but also didn't think it was anywhere near as strong as the ER4P with mids/highs as much.

 

Still interested in trying a Westone pair one of these days, but a grad student budget forces contentment.

I love the quote at the bottom of your postings:

"A good listener tries to understand what the other person is saying. In the end he may disagree sharply, but because he disagrees, he wants to know exactly what it is he is disagreeing with." - Kenneth A. Wells

My intent was neither to Boom, nor to Roast.

Merely, to properly understand.  

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Originally Posted by shinew 

thanks for the feedback. Seems like I should probably still get the ER-4 fixed.

 

An OT note, despite I've generally been very impressed with ER-4's sound and it has always been one of my favorites over the years, the build quality(the tip of the earphone) is really not impressive. It has broken off several times already w/o a lot of use and the plastic on the earphones are just terribly brittle in the winter.

Shinew, have you made a decision yet?

I would at least call Rick, at Etymotic customer service, and he will advise you on your broken tip.  I think it will be well worth it to have them repaired.  It probably won't cost as much as you think.

Posts taken out of context....they are some initial thoughts...overtime with many recordings I grew from "appreciating" them...to really disliking them. Everything is subjective here. Many love these IEMs...I over time have grown to dislike them (yes, I disliked the ER-4S's more). I guess you've always consistently liked everything from Day one and the right to change one's opinion with more experience is not allowed.

I would go back and quote you, but you've just shown up on the scene.

So here we go:

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

I used to own the ER-4Ps and really liked their clear and balanced sound, but I have recently come to own a set of Nuforce NE-8s and they are quite similar, but IMHO better IEMs.

They are slightly warmer and overall more balanced (as I found the Ety's too weighted towards the treble) and for under $70 at that. 

 

The NE-8s cost $65 and I mentioned I liked them better than the ER-4Ps (cost 3-4x as much).

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

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Originally Posted by insular  where can u get er4p's brand new for a price like 175?

This is where I got mine:

Etymotic Research | ER-4P - Noise-Attenuating Portable | ER4P

Awesome customer service too.

Oh and my vote is for the ER-4Ps also!

 

As much as I disliked the ER-4Ps toward the end, I really disliked the Shure SCL4K,

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

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Originally Posted by Antony6555  I'd take the er-4 over the um3x any day. The er-4 is bright and dynamic sounding, the westone is too dull and heavy for my taste.

Try the W3s! I own both and really appreciate the ER-4Ps, but prefer the Westone 3s!

I too found the UM3x's dull.

I can still appreciate the ER-4Ps for what they are...again, I just really grew to dislike them over the months I had them.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

I owned both and found that the Shures isolated better with my ears. For IEMs, I think its a very personal thing as we're all different.

When did I say different? I still stand by this. When it comes to personal preference there is no objective truth.

You see anyone can take anything out of context...but when put back in, guess what, the picture can look very differently. I could do the same for you, but it appears that you don't have any.

From the moment you entered this thread, Peter, you have had nothing constructive to add to the topic:

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

Can I vote for neither?

Even when the OP was requesting a vote on one or the other, you persisted with OT babble insisting on voting for "neither".   If you want to vote for "neither", you simply shut your mouth.  Say nothing.  

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Originally Posted by shinew 

 

Which one would that be?

That wouldn't be useful for me, unless it's under $100, which is the price that would cost me to get ER-4 fixed and the cost of the TripleFi 10. I'm currently not interested in getting another more expensive IEM.

 

Feel free to vote your preferred one between the 2 for classical & jazz even if neither one is your favorite.

In one inserted IEM and right straight through and out the other:   

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 
I still say neither.

I still say neither????!!!!  WOW!  

 

Nope, even a direct request from the OP couldn't get through to you.  You prattled on.  The OP was too polite to tell you to take a hike and that you were bringing nothing to the table.  Kudos, shinew.  

Now you have lowered yourself (here and in your PM to me) to belittling my post count, and the fact that I am new here.  I am not as new here as you think, Peter.

The facts are, and speak for themselves:

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You did NOT dislike them when you had them!  You had them for 3 months.  Your opinion was formed within that time frame and held long after you sold them.  You were consistent in your fairly positive musings right up until the minute two days ago that, all of the sudden, you "absolutely hated them."

And, I have taken nothing out of context.  Nothing.  Your words stand alone and on their own.  Nothing added.  Nothing deleted.

You said this BEFORE you sold them:

I own both and really appreciate the ER-4Ps

You posted the following AFTER you sold them.  These are anything but INITIAL thoughts:

I used to own the ER-4Ps and really liked their clear and balanced sound

These are your words:

Of all the IEMs I have ever owned/heard, I would say the ER-4P (especially with the P-S Cable) are the most neutral and revealing.

You did not "hate" these before, during or after you owned them.  You didn't "grow to dislike them over the months that you owned them".  If you did, then every post you have made regarding your positive experience with them was a lie.  You decided that you wanted to hate them 2 days ago, just because you felt like it?

I am not attacking you, Peter.  I am simply pulling back the curtain and shining a light on a contradictory statement that you made that would/could influence many people out here on what to buy or not to buy.  

I just don't understand where your instant hatred came from.   Lose it.  You will live longer and in much better health without it, bud.

You, on the other hand, are negatively critiquing Etymotic ER4s, after you praised them, bought them, have owned them, praised them, sold them, praised them some more and then out of nowhere you say that "you absolutely hated them when you owned them"!  You have contradicted yourself, and there seems to be no reason why.  

One would think that they could take into consideration an opinion statement from a 7000 post member that has been here for 34 months and add that to others' opinions to make an informed decision about a well-respected product on this board.  

If one would have taken your "I absolutely...." statement as your full testament to ER4s, someone might have missed out on an awesome set of Etys.  Fortunately, I hope, for the OP's sake, I looked back and discovered that you really did like your ER4s right up until the second you decided that you hated them starting 2 days ago.

You have every right to continue with your negative reviews.  Negative reviews can be very useful and constructive.  I would like some useful reasons to back up those reviews in order to make an honest, informed decision though.  

"I absolutely hated these when I owned them" posts are simply meaningless after you have praised them all along; not to mention a proof deficient heated slam on some of the best IEMs out there, IMO and many others here on head-fi. 

When you go public with the fact that you hate a product that so many other people rave about, and have so for a long, long time, you should be, and will be called on it and your past feelings/opinions/interactions should align, at least somewhat, with your newfound hatred.  ..........Fail,... miserably. 

I posted exactly what you wrote.  Up until your "hatred" post, anyone following your posted wisdom would have  purchased a pair of those Etys without ever imagining that you "hated" them.  

Do yourself a favor, my friend, and put Kenneth A. Walls' quote on your mirror.  ZoNtO will gladly give it to you.

You come off as much more knowledgeable the less you say. 

And therefore, you might be wise to cut your post count down to an average of around 100/month or so, instead of 201 posts every single month for 34 months in a row and counting, day after day after day, eh.  

You might be able to remember what actually came out of your mouth that way, my friend. 

Merry Christmas!

P.S.

Stop PMing me with your personal attacks.  

'Nuff said.

Nip it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZCI39NWZ5g

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Originally Posted by swarthy 

Sometimes I swear people on these forums do not know what an EQ is. The TF 10s are probably the best phones I have ever heard in the 400 dollar range. All you really need to do is tweak your EQ in something like Media Player Classic (use FFDSHOW DECODER) and tadah you have your mids right where you want them. I can hardly tell the difference between the two except I know the TF10 is just better. Handles bass with much more accuracy. You will have to EQ them though to get the proper sound. Do not expect out of the box gold. The mids are a bit recessed out of the box.
The Ety's are no more revealing or true to sound. People on here talk with such weird reverence and with such strange dislikes that it comes off as totally biased. I liked the ER4P/S the time I spent with them (5 years) but I would say there is no way they can compete with a triple driver like the TF 10. Use an EQ and a nice amp and the TF 10 wins any day of the week on any kind of music and they costed me 145 dollars lol.
I'd say it is closer for classical and jazz..... but remember how far you have to insert those and how the inner ear affects speakers after long periods of use. They seal well but I got tired of having them in half way to my brain all the time. The filters also cost money over time. I personally think they are crap quality and will break one way or another over time. I have replaced mine 3 times. Luckily, they have great customer service for the first couple.
They are on old design and it is as simple as that. Overpriced.

hmmmm................so much here is wrong

I've owned a pair of ETY ER 4s for over 10 years now and while they don't have the bass presence of some of the other IEMs they do offer a tight well defined bass punch. I listen to quite a bit of jazz and rock and I've not been distracted by a lack of bass. As a part time musician who has spent a considerable amount of time in the recording studio, I appreciate the accuracy of the presentation and the mid-range is very, very good. Of course any limitations with the earphones can be somewhat overcome with a headphone amp, which the s requires. I own the airhead and total bit head amps. I've got an Alpen Fiio E17 on order so it should be interesting. Customer service at Etymotic is really second to none. I busted a tip about two years ago and they replaced it free of charge. I also have a pair of E 6isolators whose tip snapped off as well and they replaced the phones free of charge as well. (I don't baby my equipment.) Good luck.