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Any idea where I can get a pair of HIFI580 for a good price.  How do these compare to Denon D2000?  These can be had for around 185.  Not sure if the price difference is worth it to go with the Denon.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/547239-REG/Ultrasone_HFI_580_HFI_580_Closed_Back_Stereo_Headphones.html

these are $118 with no shipping or tax cost :)

 

if the Denon AHD2000's are $185 then get those. i don't know if you are/were referring to the AHD2000 or FHI 580's. if you like rock more. than the HFI 780s.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/547239-REG/Ultrasone_HFI_580_HFI_580_Closed_Back_Stereo_Headphones.html

these are $118 with no shipping or tax cost :)

 

if the Denon AHD2000's are $185 then get those. i don't know if you are/were referring to the AHD2000 or FHI 580's. if you like rock more. than the HFI 780s.

Thanks Bowei for the quick response.  Yeah, I saw the deal at BH too but it was OOS.  I'm looking for a pair of bassy headphones in the $150 range.  I've looked at some posts and come down to HIFI580, AHD2000, DT990 pro, and DT770.  It seems that the HIFI580 to be the best deal at 120.  I'm looking for a pair that can deliver strong deep bass and reasonably tight.  Mid also should be full bodied and smooth.  Treble needs to be smooth and clear but not sibilance.  Really appreciate any inputs or suggestions.
 

 

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Thanks Bowei for the quick response.  Yeah, I saw the deal at BH too but it was OOS.  I'm looking for a pair of bassy headphones in the $150 range.  I've looked at some posts and come down to HIFI580, AHD2000, DT990 pro, and DT770.  It seems that the HIFI580 to be the best deal at 120.  I'm looking for a pair that can deliver strong deep bass and reasonably tight.  Mid also should be full bodied and smooth.  Treble needs to be smooth and clear but not sibilance.  Really appreciate any inputs or suggestions.
 

 


The scale is something like this

AHD2000>= DT990 pro >Hfi 580 >DT770

 

the DT990 should fit you more. but for $118 the HFI 580 is a good deal. be sure to ask around in a proper thread on the 4 headphones to get a more concise answer. all of these need an amp for full potential. At least an E11

 

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The scale is something like this

AHD2000>= DT990 pro >Hfi 580 >DT770

 

the DT990 should fit you more. but for $118 the HFI 580 is a good deal. be sure to ask around in a proper thread on the 4 headphones to get a more concise answer. all of these need an amp for full potential. At least an E11

 

I currently have a Nuforce Icon HD and hopefully it can drive any of these.  However, what do you think which one of these can be reasonably driven by a portable mp3 player like a Samsung Galaxy 5.0 mp3 player?
 

 

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I currently have a Nuforce Icon HD and hopefully it can drive any of these.  However, what do you think which one of these can be reasonably driven by a portable mp3 player like a Samsung Galaxy 5.0 mp3 player?
 

 


Your Nuforce icon can drive ANY of these like a boss. don't worry

 

As for mobile:

Depending on the Ohms of the Beyers that you get the beyers DT990 or 770 could be hard if you get the better sounding high Ohm model. if you get the 32Ohm version of the beyers they are easy to drive.

The rest of the headphones are ALL  easy to drive. however, with an amp the HFI 580 and Denon aHD2000's will improve drastically.

For mobile purposes The E11 should fit the use. 

 

have you decided on what to get yet? i have yet to see AHD2000's being sold for $190

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Nice review. Regarding the fit, I can see how somebody with a tall head could find them uncomfortable. The padding on the top is pretty stiff which could get annoying.

 

I just got a DJ-1 Pro in the yesterday, and it turns out that it absolutely needs an amp. I wasn't certain, as I had seen other people here saying they didn't, but the Pro sounded absolutely terrible on both my computer's audio port and on my shuffle. It actually had less bass than my ATH AD-900.

 

Plugging the Pro into a NAD receiver fixed the problem instantly. The DJ1-Pro is LOUD and definitely has more than enough bass when it has something adequate driving it. I can't say too much else yet, although I'm looking forward to a FiiO E11 arriving so I can unchain myself from the receiver.

 

If anyone could elaborate as to why the Pro model needs an amp while the other doesn't, I'd be mighty interested. I didn't think there was much difference between the two to be honest.


Edited by Vheissu - 12/31/11 at 7:36pm
post #53 of 101
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Your Nuforce icon can drive ANY of these like a boss. don't worry

 

As for mobile:

Depending on the Ohms of the Beyers that you get the beyers DT990 or 770 could be hard if you get the better sounding high Ohm model. if you get the 32Ohm version of the beyers they are easy to drive.

The rest of the headphones are ALL  easy to drive. however, with an amp the HFI 580 and Denon aHD2000's will improve drastically.

For mobile purposes The E11 should fit the use. 

 

have you decided on what to get yet? i have yet to see AHD2000's being sold for $190


I have not personally tried it but some posts here mention that J&R has the D2000 for 185.  We have to call in and they'll give us a price of 199 and then mention the $15 off of a $150 purchase. 

 

I'm leaning towards the 580 for it's better value and, like you said, can be driven by a portable player.  If the 580 can be 85% of the D2000 in term of sound quality, I'm satisfied.

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I have not personally tried it but some posts here mention that J&R has the D2000 for 185.  We have to call in and they'll give us a price of 199 and then mention the $15 off of a $150 purchase. 

 

I'm leaning towards the 580 for it's better value and, like you said, can be driven by a portable player.  If the 580 can be 85% of the D2000 in term of sound quality, I'm satisfied.



i don't have experience with the AHD2000's so i can't tell you for sure. you could make a thread and ask if you want. but calling it in on J&R and then getting it down to that price means you have to buy it since you already called them and what not.

 

the 580 can be driven by a portable player. good? well it works but i would recommend an amp later on :) in case you are wondering. no, your computer's DAC/amp is not that good.

 

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Nice review. Regarding the fit, I can see how somebody with a tall head could find them uncomfortable. The padding on the top is pretty stiff which could get annoying.

 

I just got a DJ-1 Pro in the yesterday, and it turns out that it absolutely needs an amp. I wasn't certain, as I had seen other people here saying they didn't, but the Pro sounded absolutely terrible on both my computer's audio port and on my shuffle. It actually had less bass than my ATH AD-900.

 

Plugging the Pro into a NAD receiver fixed the problem instantly. The DJ1-Pro is LOUD and definitely has more than enough bass when it has something adequate driving it. I can't say too much else yet, although I'm looking forward to a FiiO E11 arriving so I can unchain myself from the receiver.

 

If anyone could elaborate as to why the Pro model needs an amp while the other doesn't, I'd be mighty interested. I didn't think there was much difference between the two to be honest.


 

good to know that the Pro might need an amp. the regular series don't need one badly :) 

The E11 should be enough for the Pro. i am getting an E17 for my HFI 580, a lot of overkill but absolutley worth it :) since i need it at home also :)

 

 

 

Thank you both for replying :), knowing people's opinions is a great feeling every day. And putting my review back onto the front page is also pretty good. not that my review needs to anyhow :) it just happens that my review is the first review anyone will see if they search this up :)


Edited by bowei006 - 12/31/11 at 7:38pm
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i don't have experience with the AHD2000's so i can't tell you for sure. you could make a thread and ask if you want. but calling it in on J&R and then getting it down to that price means you have to buy it since you already called them and what not.

 

the 580 can be driven by a portable player. good? well it works but i would recommend an amp later on :) in case you are wondering. no, your computer's DAC/amp is not that good.

 

 

I haven't called in yet so I still have some room to work :)  May be I just get the 580 and then invest in a portable amp?  Oh by the way, Happy New Year!!! and thanks for all your help :)

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I haven't called in yet so I still have some room to work :)  May be I just get the 580 and then invest in a portable amp?  Oh by the way, Happy New Year!!! and thanks for all your help :)



It's not my New Year yet but Thank you Very much. :) its the thought that counts. i feel good right now thanks to you :)

 

What are your genre's you listen to? Do you need these to be portable or on desktop or both? What is your price range? I've been neglecting these questions as i forgot(since' im on my own thread) but this can help me tailor my answer to you more.

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It's not my New Year yet but Thank you Very much. :) its the thought that counts. i feel good right now thanks to you :)

 

What are your genre's you listen to? Do you need these to be portable or on desktop or both? What is your price range? I've been neglecting these questions as i forgot(since' im on my own thread) but this can help me tailor my answer to you more.


Bowei, You're very welcome!  It will be my new year in 15 mins :) 

 

I listen to a lot of piano, classical, easy listening, vocal, pop so I have a HD598 for these.  I also have a Grado SR325is for some rock, intrumental,  and classical strings too.  However when I'm in the mood for techno, trance, these could not deliver.  That's why I'm looking for a pair of bassy headphones.  My ideal range is below 150.  It would be ideal if it can be driven by a portable yet scales up when driven by an amp.  I got Panasonic htf600 because it got good review on here but I was utterly disapointed, so I think I need to spend more to get a decent pair.

 

 

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Bowei, You're very welcome!  It will be my new year in 15 mins :) 

 

I listen to a lot of piano, classical, easy listening, vocal, pop so I have a HD598 for these.  I also have a Grado SR325is for some rock, intrumental,  and classical strings too.  However when I'm in the mood for techno, trance, these could not deliver.  That's why I'm looking for a pair of bassy headphones.  My ideal range is below 150.  It would be ideal if it can be driven by a portable yet scales up when driven by an amp.  I got Panasonic htf600 because it got good review on here but I was utterly disapointed, so I think I need to spend more to get a decent pair.



the panasonics'are only $30 which is why.... Well it really depends on how much bass you want. some noob's don't like the HFI 580 due to it not having teh consumer class bass. but if you want deep audiophile bass. These shuold deliver. and since your range is $150 this will do espeically well. the HFI 580's are pretty easy to drive without an amp. and with an amp. like you say, just scales it right up.

 

These HFI 580's sound like the ones for you :) if you need more bass..like a lot more. the XB700 is a consumer grade headphone that doesn't really have much of mids or highs, but delivers the bass. i doubt your trance or techno needs that. 

other headphones you could consider in this range would be the DT770 and the M50's. if you read the other reviews on head fi
http://www.head-fi.org/t/531691/review-ath-m50-vs-hfi-580-vs-sr-80
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534029/fight-the-beats-hype-ultrasone-hfi-580-hfi-580-appreciation-thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/556509/review-battle-of-the-entry-level-rivals-ultrasone-hfi-580-vs-audio-technica-m50-vs-pro700-mk2
 

espeically the last one, which are the only bassy headphones in this range..plz note..the HFI 580 destroys all of them. if the bass isn't enough. again. i would again tell you to consider the XB700's..however i doubt they will not be enough

 

Warning: These need 10 hours before being good. after ten hours we reach some slopes. the heapdhones woould sound good most of the time, but there are times when the quality dips noticably throughout the burn in phase. This is to be expected. these require 600+ hours from what i hear.

 

I listen to Pendulum on these........................i just get lost....just lost....


Edited by bowei006 - 12/31/11 at 10:07pm
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the panasonics'are only $30 which is why.... Well it really depends on how much bass you want. some noob's don't like the HFI 580 due to it not having teh consumer class bass. but if you want deep audiophile bass. These shuold deliver. and since your range is $150 this will do espeically well. the HFI 580's are pretty easy to drive without an amp. and with an amp. like you say, just scales it right up.

 

These HFI 580's sound like the ones for you :) if you need more bass..like a lot more. the XB700 is a consumer grade headphone that doesn't really have much of mids or highs, but delivers the bass. i doubt your trance or techno needs that. 

other headphones you could consider in this range would be the DT770 and the M50's. if you read the other reviews on head fi
http://www.head-fi.org/t/531691/review-ath-m50-vs-hfi-580-vs-sr-80
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534029/fight-the-beats-hype-ultrasone-hfi-580-hfi-580-appreciation-thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/556509/review-battle-of-the-entry-level-rivals-ultrasone-hfi-580-vs-audio-technica-m50-vs-pro700-mk2
 

espeically the last one, which are the only bassy headphones in this range..plz note..the HFI 580 destroys all of them. if the bass isn't enough. again. i would again tell you to consider the XB700's..however i doubt they will not be enough

 

Warning: These need 10 hours before being good. after ten hours we reach some slopes. the heapdhones woould sound good most of the time, but there are times when the quality dips noticably throughout the burn in phase. This is to be expected. these require 600+ hours from what i hear.

 

I listen to Pendulum on these........................i just get lost....just lost....

Wow!  Thanks for the links.  I agree the HIFI580 might be best for me.  I like the Grado pretty much too so that post really helps.  And I prefer quality bass over quantity.  Now the question is do I have enough patience to wait for it to be back in stock at BH :)  Ebay has some good deals but should I be worried about fakes?
 

 

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