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post #61 of 73
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I want to check out the new VPI Traveler even more.  

 

And I will be finally!  Got me a blue one on the way.  That only took me months.  Unfortunately, I've still not picked up/out a phono stage, so at this point, it'll just be something to look at.  I'm having an incredibly hard time choosing one.  I will do my best to convince myself something like the Soundsmith MMP3 is fine, then read a bit and then next thing I know I'm looking at phono stages for a couple thousand bucks, like a Sutherland 20/20.  Then something for around $1k, then something for $3k.  Then back down to "Just get something already!" to "Don't waste your money on the cheaper units, you'll regret it later."

 

Over, and over again.

 

Or I could just use the phono stage in the Rega Brio I have, but I don't want to wear anything out in the mean time.  I'm goofy.

 

Had to share with someone.  cool.gif

post #62 of 73
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Congrats Eee Pee! Let me know how it goes. I want to upgrade my phono stage down the road too. Most likely I'll end up with the Decware ZP3. It's actually reasonably priced. I'm a fan of their amps, and a tube phono should pair up nicely i think.

post #63 of 73

I was tossing up buying the RP3 over the RP1 on the basis that the stock cartridge that comes with the RP1 is reputedly a poor choice, then I find this thread. Back to digital for me.  rolleyes.gif

post #64 of 73

Guys, I'm planning to buy my first table in a couple of months.  This is what I have been recommended:

 

 

Looking for more opinions on whether this would do, or whether I can do better / different for my budget.  (The above totals, roughly, to my budget)

post #65 of 73
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^ don't have experience with the pro-ject tables. the ortofon should be a good cartridge though and the Azur phono gets good reviews. what cartridge the the table come with? you might wanna look into buying used...with your budget i think you could do better.

 

edit: nvm, that was the 640p. IME, i think it's better to just go with a plain MM phono then get a separate SUT afterwards should you decide to switch to MC cartridges. it will save you some dough in the meantime.


Edited by SemiAudiophile - 8/27/12 at 5:09pm
post #66 of 73
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^ don't have experience with the pro-ject tables. the ortofon should be a good cartridge though and the Azur phono gets good reviews. what cartridge the the table come with? you might wanna look into buying used...with your budget i think you could do better.

 

edit: nvm, that was the 640p. IME, i think it's better to just go with a plain MM phono then get a separate SUT afterwards should you decide to switch to MC cartridges. it will save you some dough in the meantime.

 

frown.gif A good amount of that went over my head.  MM?  MC?  SUT?  

 

Is there a good, relatively current primer out there on this topic (TTs)?  

post #67 of 73
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Moving Magnet, Moving Coil, Step-up Transformer.

 

Good place to start: here

post #68 of 73

Thanks, I read through that thread.  

 

Even though I'll get better value with used gear, I'm concerned my complete lack of experience in setting up a cartridge & calibrating the various forces will make me fall on my face.  I will check out A-gon though and see if there are any steals that are worth the trouble.

 

Twinster on that other thread seemed to have a lot of problems getting his table set up properly.

post #69 of 73
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Twinster on that other thread seemed to have a lot of problems getting his table set up properly.

I think Twinster had it rough.  None of my turntable, cartridge or tonearm set ups have been hard.  You just have to be somewhat mechanically inclined, perfect and patient.  That's not hard.  biggrin.gif

 

Unlike a CD player (for instance), you don't just plug a turntable in and expect the best to be there right then and right now.  They're sensitive mechanical devices (which is part of the cool factor) that need tender loving care to get them at their best.  Little tweaks here and there over time to dial them in is needed.  Then there's that constantly changing VTA adjustment because not all records are the same thickness (sorry Rega guys).  I think you have to ENJOY the mechanical aspect of the record/record player to really get everything out of them that you can.

post #70 of 73
Thread Starter 

I don't really bother with VTA tbh. I just make sure the cartridge is not too low where you can see/hear the needle touching when it's not set down. I keep mine at 2mm adjustment.

 

Oh btw, just picked up some records yesterday. evil_smiley.gif

 

 

Finally got my copy of Bold As Love. Sounded really good in my system last night even without the SUT. Don't know whether if it was because it was brand new, burn-in, or maybe I was high? But didn't feel like music playback at all. bigsmile_face.gif

 

Best of Kokua Festival is also a great album if you like the soft acoustic type. Highly recommend!

 

and to reiterate what Eee Pee said above, yes it's all about patience, patience, and patience with TT's. That's what I've learned anyway. and don't forget about tweaking!


Edited by SemiAudiophile - 8/28/12 at 3:08pm
post #71 of 73
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Finally got my copy of Bold As Love. Sounded really good in my system last night even without the SUT. Don't know whether if it was because it was brand new, burn-in, or maybe I was high? But didn't feel like music playback at all.

 

Right when the first song kicks in (Up From The Skies), after all the spaced out stuff, is FANTASTIC!  I've always loved listening to that record, not only because the music is great, but so is the sound!  Whether high, drunk, angry, happy, on other drugs or not!  And it's not only about Jimi, but Mitch and Noel are right there with him.  Love it!

 

Gonna listen to it right now, actually.

 

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post #72 of 73
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

I think Twinster had it rough.  None of my turntable, cartridge or tonearm set ups have been hard.  You just have to be somewhat mechanically inclined, perfect and patient.  That's not hard.  biggrin.gif

 

Unlike a CD player (for instance), you don't just plug a turntable in and expect the best to be there right then and right now.  They're sensitive mechanical devices (which is part of the cool factor) that need tender loving care to get them at their best.  Little tweaks here and there over time to dial them in is needed.  Then there's that constantly changing VTA adjustment because not all records are the same thickness (sorry Rega guys).  I think you have to ENJOY the mechanical aspect of the record/record player to really get everything out of them that you can.

 

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Originally Posted by SemiAudiophile View Post

and to reiterate what Eee Pee said above, yes it's all about patience, patience, and patience with TT's. That's what I've learned anyway. and don't forget about tweaking!

 

Coming to realize it's about P,P,P...just finished watching that 30 minute video Skylab posted on the other thread.  I know that guy went to great lengths to get everything set up perfectly, and knowing myself I would probably do the same.  Now the question to ponder is...will I enjoy that?  

 

*thinking*

post #73 of 73

I know this is an old (but interesting) thread.  I arrived here wondering about how the ISOfeet are installed and got what I needed.  I do want to make a point though.

 

If your tonearm lift does not clear your records when lifted, it is not a VTA problem.  You should only adjust VTA based on how the cart looks on the record while playing based on recommendations of the cart maker and your tastes.  Of course, Rega's position is that you should only adjust it if the butt of your cart drags on the record.

 

What you actually wanted to do is adjust the tonearm lift height and you do that with a very small hex key on the tonearm lift.  Its easy to miss and I had the same problem.

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