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post #16 of 27
12/20/11 at 6:04pm
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I will insist... I DO NOT play music with the speakers on the corners.. I am a mastering engineer and I know for sure how to... DCS are fine players but way to analytical to my taste.. 

Audio Research?? Soulution??... Burmester???..

 

Ill let you know and Merry Xmas!!!

 

 

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post #17 of 27
12/22/11 at 7:10pm

Try Soulution 540 or Playback Design MPS5. The Esoteric latest P02 D02 combo and the K01 also have got rid of the analytical sound in the past Esoteric flagships. Still as detailed but much more musical. Suggest you give these a try.

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post #18 of 27
2/21/12 at 9:59am

there are a lot of folks here who are big fans of the ps audio perfect wave dac (and possibly the transport too).

something else i've come across looks quite interesting.  this thing may have the potential to run with darn near anything - time will tell.  while not inexpensive at ~ $5k, nonetheless it's a lot less than some of the stuff out there + it'll be a lot easier to deal with if service issues ever arise, compared to some of the imported units. (i have friends with both emm labs and dcs gear that have suffered failures, and they've had significant issues trying to get this pricey gear serviced!):   http://www.parasound.com/news.php


Edited by daveDerek - 5/22/12 at 12:14pm
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post #19 of 27
2/24/12 at 6:37am

If you're sensitive to mechanical noise, stay well away of the PD MPS5 and the Esoteric players (especially the K03).

 

Their transports are extremely noisy and you will hear them during quiet classical passages. Unless you store your equipment in a soundproof room / box / cupboard.

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post #20 of 27
2/24/12 at 7:41am
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If you're sensitive to mechanical noise, stay well away of the PD MPS5 and the Esoteric players (especially the K03).

 

Their transports are extremely noisy and you will hear them during quiet classical passages. Unless you store your equipment in a soundproof room / box / cupboard.


Esoteric has said that there's something wrong with the transport if its making that much noise, but I've seen that mentioned in a few places about the VRDS. The Meridian 808 is definitely worth an audition, and I've heard good things about the Chord Red Reference as well.

 

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post #21 of 27
2/24/12 at 8:16am

I've never heard the K-03 so I can't comment about it, my SACD player is though the K-01 and the only very slight noise I could hear when the disc was spinning was a faint humming. In order to hear this humming there had to be no background noise and my ear had to be virtually touching the K-01. I know this because someone about a couple of months ago said there was a lot of noise from the K-03 so I thought I'd try it with my K-01.

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post #22 of 27
2/24/12 at 8:30am

I'd ask the O.P. what sort of sonic signature he wants to aim for, and what sort of sonic differences he's seeking compared to his current cd player before i make any recommendation.  Otherwise, all you can comment on is things like reliaibility, availability, and basic compatibility in terms of connectivity - xlr vs rca, e.g.  Not that any of the machines mentioned are bad, just not sure how helpful the recommendations are.

 

 

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post #23 of 27
5/8/12 at 10:11am
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Guys... News.... I didn't change anything... I add something.

 

Since I have a very bulk collections of Cd's I was checking into servers... Yes... servers... I am not fan of them and since a high end server is no where near, or I least I though that until now.. I decide to listen to Meridian Sooloos and to Aurender S10.

 

And from this two... I choose Aurender S10.

Connector provide by shunyata, and since all of my digital cables are in my mastering facility, I did ask to my dealer to get me a new Shunyata Zzitron Cobra AES cable ( is not expensive, but I think is very very good), and a cobra powercable ( he was out of phyton which is what I use for this kind of sources), this is connected then to the Wadia S7i aes input.

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Since this is a server/transport, you must provide this little aluminum box with the files... which in my case are from my private collection.  My choice of ripper is XLD, and the files are in between 16 and 24 bits... with sample rates from 44.1 to 96 kHz. Disc from MFSL, SHM, XL, XRCD, FIN and others get big improvements if they are ripped in higher rates. To control this little fellow you need and Ipad and that makes this a very expensive remote, but this is a very expensive device... and you must hook this to your OWN network in order to have the connection running.

Once you have done that, which is fast... You can proceed to the fun and joy of music itself.

 

I left the unit playing and heating up for 5 days so i didn't have any seconds thoughts of returning it since is expensive USD$7000... plus cables.

 

This server comes with everything a High End device should have.. this is... good looks.... !! hahahha... But how does it performs..

 

In a word... Sublime... since the design and built quality is no compromise, you have the best digital signal processing in the market... and since no other device is as bit perfect as this one... you must assume this will sound good enough. and it does..

 

Deep words, deep silences, high notes and astoundingly good voices are something this unit provides with amazing clarity... The bass extension is soo good I get myself thinking if my magicos had ever sounded like this before.

 

I surf myself into HDTRACKS... and i download a highres album from Metalica (black album)... Behold.... Enter sadman is one of the most power full songs I have ever encounter in any system of any prices and I am speechless. If I move to Eagles, Hotel California, New kid in town... OMG...

this is something I have not expected whatsoever...

Is superior in every sense of the word, and thinking they are building a new one with clock input and a second aes output... Dude!! this is something everyone with more than 200 discs should think...

 

Guys... I have not ever believe in reviews but... If you know a little bit of comp science... if you like music like me... I have never encounter any device regarding of the prices, that can match this one... This is by far, the best sounding one piece server that I have ever try, do yourself a favor

and if you have the money to burn.. try it... you might never use a CD more than once...


Edited by pockits - 5/8/12 at 10:27am
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post #24 of 27
5/8/12 at 2:25pm
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Guys... I have not ever believe in reviews but... If you know a little bit of comp science... if you like music like me... I have never encounter any device regarding of the prices, that can match this one... This is by far, the best sounding one piece server that I have ever try, do yourself a favor

and if you have the money to burn.. try it... you might never use a CD more than once...

 

There's growing evidence that a good digital server can outperform even the finest CD spinners, and the Aurender S10 is one of the better ones available. Now admittedly I haven't yet seen reviews of the megabuck Naim and Burmester TOTL servers, but my issue with the Aurender and others like it is that despite costing $7K plus cables, they can't win against custom Mac Minis or PC servers into USB DACs. That's a problem, and it raises a serious question about value. For about $1000 you can build a custom Win7/Jplay box, and Mach2Music will build you their custom Mini for $1650. Where's the other $5000+ going into the Aurender if it doesn't sound as good?

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post #25 of 27
5/8/12 at 2:28pm

Connaker's pocket.

 

 

That was a joke.

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post #26 of 27
5/8/12 at 3:05pm
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There's growing evidence that a good digital server can outperform even the finest CD spinners, and the Aurender S10 is one of the better ones available. Now admittedly I haven't yet seen reviews of the megabuck Naim and Burmester TOTL servers, but my issue with the Aurender and others like it is that despite costing $7K plus cables, they can't win against custom Mac Minis or PC servers into USB DACs. That's a problem, and it raises a serious question about value. For about $1000 you can build a custom Win7/Jplay box, and Mach2Music will build you their custom Mini for $1650. Where's the other $5000+ going into the Aurender if it doesn't sound as good?

 

Actually I have a mach2... and as far as I am concern... you are correct in the quality issue, but sound from aurender is far better than my mini... Plus if you are willing to play with windows and not linux in case of a windows computer... plus, in this case you have a oven controlled clock..  ( $$$ bucks there), and you have a custom build field array digital card ( $$$) not any of the shelf chip sets..

 

I have use Naim and is good, but still, not as good as this one.. SOOLOOS is the only one I think can match everything here but it can cost you more than twice the money and Burmester 111 is as well very expensive... and I like it.. but here my only option since my taste and availability was Aurender - Sooloos - Naim... and in that order... Burmester is not available here but you can get it anyway.. I have a friend with it, and is good, but much more complex, since I don't need something more than this kind of player, Aurender beats all of them.. Ofcourse... if you like another one.. you can choose... In my very own test and with my system... Aurender goes all the way

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post #27 of 27
7/3/12 at 11:37pm

Try dCS.

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