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post #1 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:30am
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Well, I've been on head-fi for a short while but this is my first post
Christmas is coming soon, and my birthday is 2 days after christmas
Right now I have an imac, a hifiman hm601, an ipod classic with a broken headphone jack, a pair of hippo grooves and a sennheiser hd650
So, what should I get for christmas/my birthday?
I have no amp at the moment, so I was thinking a graham slee solo, which is available at the jaben close to me
But they can order in schiit. So I might buy the schiit asgard and a DAC (maybe the bifrost)
But then I thought about buying a ray samuels audio hornet and a cypher labs algorhythm solo
I also have a bunch of CDs and records and no cd/sacd player, and a cheap, almost broken turntable
What should I do guys?
Any suggestions for gear? Budget is about $800, probably can't go beyond that.
I'm relying on the much better, well informed head fi members here. What should I get guys?
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post #2 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:34am

 

Get a proper desktop amp and really start hearing that HD650 of yours smile.gif

 

Violectric V100.

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post #3 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:36am
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post


Get a proper desktop amp and really start hearing that HD650 of yours smile.gif

Violectric V100.

Looks pretty good. Any reason to get this over the solo (sounds pretty great)
I wouldn't be able to buy it from the site, paypal is a pain, hopefully jaben can order it in
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post #4 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by OwlAndTanager View Post


Looks pretty good. Any reason to get this over the solo (sounds pretty great)
I wouldn't be able to buy it from the site, paypal is a pain, hopefully jaben can order it in


Are you in the USA?

 

Here is the power out for the flagship Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear

 

Power output: (rms, both channels fully driven at 1% THD)

32 Ohms: 140mW/channel; 600 Ohms: 30mW/channel

 

Here is the power spec for the Violectric V100 (3rd column)

 

As you can see the Violectric V100 is up to 12 times more powerful than the Graham Slee.

 

At 300ohms for your HD650 (not specified but you can guesstimate) there is going to be a lot

more power on offer. Not to mention voltage output which the HD650 can use, Graham Slee

do not publish their figures.

 

Dual headphone outs are handy too on the V100 ~ grab another headphone and you can share

with a friend at the same time.

 

 

TECHNICAL DATA


   
   

HPA V90

HPA V100

 HPA V181 HPA V200
Unbalanced Inputs 2 2 2 2
Balanced Inputs 0 (2) (2) (2)
Impedance 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms
Unbalanced Outputs 2 (2) (2) (2)
Balanced Outputs 0 0 0 0
Number of Channels 2 2 2 2
Nominal Input Level +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu
Amplifier Gain 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB
... with Pre-Gain -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB
Frequency Range (-0,5 dB) 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz
Damping Factor (in 50 Ohm Load) 300 400 250 800
Dynamic Range (A-wtd) 126 dB 128 dB 128 dB 128 dB
Noise (A-wtd) -102 dB -100 dB -100 dB -100 dB
THD+N @ 10V / 100 Ohms (1W) -108 dB -109 dB -108 dB -110 dB
THD+N @ 4V / 32 Ohms (0,5W) -102 dB -103 dB -109 dB -103 dB
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz -110 dB -115 dB -115 dB -110 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz -90 dB -95 dB -100 dB -95 dB
Output Voltage in 600 Ohms 20,9 V 19,6 V 20,2 V 18,5 V
Output Power in 600 Ohms 730 mW 640 mW 680 mW 570 mW
Output Voltage in 100 Ohms 15,2 V 14,5 V 16,6 V 14,8 V
Output Power in 100 Ohms 2300 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW 2200 mW
Output Voltage in 50 Ohms 9,4 V 10,5 V 10,2 V 11,6 V
Output Power in 50 Ohms 1780 mW 2200 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW
Output Voltage in 32 Ohms 6,4 V 7,4 V 7,9 V 8,0 Veff
Output Power in 32 Ohms 1300 mW 1700 mW 1950 mW 2000 mW
Output Voltage in 16 Ohms 3,0 V 3,5 V 4,5 V 4 Veff
Output Power in 16 Ohms 550 mW 780 mW 1250 mW 1000 mW
Number of Outputs 2 2 2 / 1 2
Power Supply 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V
Power Consumption 7 VA 10 VA 10 VA 10 VA
Dimensions (WxHxD) mm 170x49x126 170x49x225 170x49x225 170x49x225

 


Edited by Gwarmi - 11/28/11 at 1:51am
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post #5 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:52am
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post



Are you in the USA?

Here is the power out for the flagship Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear

Power output: (rms, both channels fully driven at 1% THD)
32 Ohms: 140mW/channel; 600 Ohms: 30mW/channel

Here is the power spec for the Violectric V100 (3rd column)

As you can see the Violectric V100 is up to 12 times more powerful than the Graham Slee.

At 300ohms for your HD650 (not specified but you can guesstimate) there is going to be a lot
more power on offer. Not to mention voltage output which the HD650 can use, Graham Slee
do not publish their figures.


TECHNICAL DATA






   

































































































































































































































































































   

HPA V90

HPA V100



 HPA V181 HPA V200
Unbalanced Inputs 2 2 2 2
Balanced Inputs 0 (2) (2) (2)
Impedance 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms
Unbalanced Outputs 2 (2) (2) (2)
Balanced Outputs 0 0 0 0
Number of Channels 2 2 2 2
Nominal Input Level +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu
Amplifier Gain 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB
... with Pre-Gain -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB
Frequency Range (-0,5 dB) 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz
Damping Factor (in 50 Ohm Load) 300 400 250 800
Dynamic Range (A-wtd) 126 dB 128 dB 128 dB 128 dB
Noise (A-wtd) -102 dB -100 dB -100 dB -100 dB
THD+N @ 10V / 100 Ohms (1W) -108 dB -109 dB -108 dB -110 dB
THD+N @ 4V / 32 Ohms (0,5W) -102 dB -103 dB -109 dB -103 dB
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz -110 dB -115 dB -115 dB -110 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz -90 dB -95 dB -100 dB -95 dB
Output Voltage in 600 Ohms 20,9 V 19,6 V 20,2 V 18,5 V
Output Power in 600 Ohms 730 mW 640 mW 680 mW 570 mW
Output Voltage in 100 Ohms 15,2 V 14,5 V 16,6 V 14,8 V
Output Power in 100 Ohms 2300 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW 2200 mW
Output Voltage in 50 Ohms 9,4 V 10,5 V 10,2 V 11,6 V
Output Power in 50 Ohms 1780 mW 2200 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW
Output Voltage in 32 Ohms 6,4 V 7,4 V 7,9 V 8,0 Veff
Output Power in 32 Ohms 1300 mW 1700 mW 1950 mW 2000 mW
Output Voltage in 16 Ohms 3,0 V 3,5 V 4,5 V 4 Veff
Output Power in 16 Ohms 550 mW 780 mW 1250 mW 1000 mW
Number of Outputs 2 2 2 / 1 2
Power Supply 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V
Power Consumption 7 VA 10 VA 10 VA 10 VA
Dimensions (WxHxD) mm 170x49x126 170x49x225 170x49x225 170x49x225


Whoah, that's pretty impressive
No, I'm in Malaysia
There's a reason I'm favoring the slee or the asgard over other suggestions, as they have the slee in stock and the asgard can be ordered in.
I can't use paypal, so buying directly from the site is a no-go
All the stuff mentioned above could be bought at jaben, which is a 5 minute bus ride from my house
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post #6 of 6
11/28/11 at 1:59am

 

 

See how you go, it is handy having Jaben around the corner ~ see if they can get it in for you ~ the Asgard and Slee won't make your HD650

fly like the V100! biggrin.gif

 

It's a lesson I learnt the hard way ~ buy the best amp you possibly can the first time around if you're 100% sure that you're going to

stay in the hobby ~ saves you money in the long run.

 

Balanced inputs too on the back of the V100 ~ if you ever get a fancy stand a lone DAC one day with balanced XLR outputs ~ you can

use that feature with the V100 ~ again, the Asgard and Slee don't have those features.


Edited by Gwarmi - 11/28/11 at 2:01am
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