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post #31 of 37

Norah on CD or was it the SACD/Vinyl? The SACD and Vinyl sound much beter. :D
 

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I can see that.  I knew after 10 seconds that the HE-5 was a mediocre, under damped ortho. 

 

The first meet I attended after the HD-800 came out, three were there with completely different rigs.  With one rig, it was blah, nothing special on the second, and very good on the third.  The third also made me realize I never want a headphone that revealing.  I put on a Norah Jones album and it was unlistenable.  It made me realize I don't want to own gear that's that revealing.  The music is too important to me to have gear that would keep me from listening to it.

 

Unfortunately, some people post reviews after listening only at meets.  If you can only have a set of impressions instead of a critical review, you're back at having meet conditions.



 

 

post #32 of 37

CD.  It was awful.  15 seconds was all I could take. 

post #33 of 37

I picked up the sacd recently and my FLAC rip will never be heard from again.
 

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CD.  It was awful.  15 seconds was all I could take. 



 

 

post #34 of 37
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I hear this phrase used to allow people to hide behind their previous statements when someone calls them out and they don't have the balls to stand their ground. The phrase is also used by people who don't agree with a poster and try to discredit their findings.
Audiophiles are people who, one would assume, have a trained ear, such that they can focus on sounds they want to hear, and ignore those they do not want to hear. If you do not have a trained ear and consider yourself an audiophile, how can you be sure of your own findings?
When I perform in an orchestra, I often am listening for cues from other instruments to know when to come in, or for tempo, among other things. I focus on just the sound of that instrument and hear little else so I don't miss my cue. This is exactly the step I take when listening to music. I focus on the music I hear and ignore anything else. I will assume anyone with a trained ear to be capable of this behavior. Those who saw me taking notes while listening at RMAF will tell you I was in my own zone.
Meet impressions from someone with these abilities (most of us, I would guess) should be just as valid as anyone who has owned the headphone for a brief time. Depending on how many systems each listened to, the meet listener may actually have a greater grasp on the performance than the owner who only has 1 system he listens to.
Stop this notion of meet conditions affecting your ability to separate yourself from the world to focus on the music you are hearing. Unless someone is talking in your ear, it is possible to avoid 'meet conditions'. The lone exception to this is the AKG K1000 (or anything that may be similarly designed later) because it literally is wide open in that you cannot help but hear some outside speaking/noise.
Stop hiding behind the phrase when you falter in your beliefs. Say what you mean and stand behind it. So what if someone disagrees? We all have our own preferences, that's nothing to be ashamed of. Stop using this phrase to shame a poster into faltering on their beliefs. They heard what they heard. If they say they are not a great judge of sound (which I find many people state, and is totally fine), then don't push them into discounting what they've just said.
This is a forum for people to enjoy trading opinions for or against audio gear. People should be respected for posting what they believe without fear of being pushed into obscurity.


Background noise routinely causes issue with my ability to enjoy open cans. I bought an extension cable and run it to my bed in the other room for this reason. Trained ear or not, having to work for it is sub optimal and you should know this.

 

Furthermore, whenever I'm at a meet, meet conditions usually mean socializing instead of listening to headphones. ;)

post #35 of 37

Just my two cents with my experiences. I am not extrapolating to other members by any means.

 

But, I have found meet conditions less than ideal as I find the background noise levels just too distracting. And the rather "short" listening sessions really don't let me explore what a particular piece of gear truly sounds like. While it can be helpful to give me an initial impression, it falls far short (with me again) when compared to having it for a few weeks at home.

 

The other issue I find with meet conditions is mainly the music is something that I am not very well familiar with so really discerning what I'm hearing is also particularly difficult. At home, I've got my "go to" recordings that I can assess performances.

 

With this in mind, I have to admit that I do give more credence to reviews by owners or people who have had a particular piece of gear on loan for an extended period. Maybe I'm wrong, but just my thoughts.

post #36 of 37

One of the things I do at meets is go around looking for music I've never heard.  I usually end up buying an album or 2 that I've heard at the meet. 

post #37 of 37

I've had two friends of mine, who were members of the Honolulu Symphony, over a number of times to listen to music etc. Both cued into music noticeably different than I did.

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