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And still, the Q701 appreciators are not willing to answer. Is the bass the same level as K702?

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Originally Posted by KlarkKentThe3rd View Post

And still, the Q701 appreciators are not willing to answer. Is the bass the same level as K702?

I haven't heard the K702 I'm afraid. The bass is good on the Q's though, particularly once modded.
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Originally Posted by KlarkKentThe3rd View Post
 

And still, the Q701 appreciators are not willing to answer. Is the bass the same level as K702?

 

Your answer is easily found and it's also in the first post in this thread.

It should be common knowledge now that the Q701 is warmer and slightly more bassy than the K702.

My idea is that it's due to some minor improvements with the design.

 

K702 for me is much thinner and more analytical. It also has a larger soundstage and is more airy sounding perhaps.

Q701 just sounds much smoother and more natural sounding.

 

It really comes down to preferences.

Some hear them the same way or say the newest K702s sound the same.

 

I had several K702s and once had the K701 as well. My K702 was purchased maybe in late 2012.

I purchased the Q701 from Amazon expecting to return if it was just a K702 with a paint job. Ending up keeping it and still have it. I've tried the Annie and K712 and it's still around.

 

If I did not discover the bass port mod then I might have the K712. There's only minor differences between the bass port modded Q701 and K712. I bet AKG wishes we did not discover this mod :normal_smile :

 

K712 is still a bit fuller sounding, but it's very hard to tell the difference. I do think the K712 has a driver that's technically better (same one, but measuring better/hand selected maybe). Some songs on the K712 sounded noticeably clearer for whatever reason and I'm pretty sure it wasn't due to changes in frequency response, but it's possible.


Edited by tdockweiler - 5/31/14 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post
 

 

Your answer is easily found and it's also in the first post in this thread.

It should be common knowledge now that the Q701 is warmer and slightly more bassy than the K702.

My idea is that it's due to some minor improvements with the design.

 

K702 for me is much thinner and more analytical. It also has a larger soundstage and is more airy sounding perhaps.

Q701 just sounds much smoother and more natural sounding.

 

It really comes down to preferences.

Some hear them the same way or say the newest K702s sound the same.

 

I had several K702s and once had the K701 as well. My K702 was purchased maybe in late 2012.

I purchased the Q701 from Amazon expecting to return if it was just a K702 with a paint job. Ending up keeping it and still have it. I've tried the Annie and K712 and it's still around.

 

If I did not discover the bass port mod then I might have the K712. There's only minor differences between the bass port modded Q701 and K712. I bet AKG wishes we did not discover this mod :normal_smile :

 

K712 is still a bit fuller sounding, but it's very hard to tell the difference. I do think the K712 has a driver that's technically better (same one, but measuring better/hand selected maybe). Some songs on the K712 sounded noticeably clearer for whatever reason and I'm pretty sure it wasn't due to changes in frequency response, but it's possible.


Thank you. I heard samples of K702, and I consider the bass level to be natural. And that's what I want. Since Q701 is actually cheaper than K702, it would be a perfect buy in the future.

 

Also, Sonic Sense Pro Audio recorded samples of 702 and 712. And the way they did it, it appears that 712 have crap imaging and sound more mono than stereo. Did they make a mistake when recording? You heard them, do they sound better than their recorded sample?

 

Base files:

https://soundcloud.com/sonic-sense-pro-audio/headphone-source-track?in=sonic-sense-pro-audio/sets/headphones-test

 

702:

https://soundcloud.com/sonic-sense-pro-audio/akg-k702?in=sonic-sense-pro-audio/sets/headphones-test

 

712:

https://soundcloud.com/sonic-sense-pro-audio/akg-k712?in=sonic-sense-pro-audio/sets/headphones-test


Edited by KlarkKentThe3rd - 5/31/14 at 3:15pm
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That might be a question for the K712 thread.  I can say that I've never heard anyone say the K712 has "crap" imaging or mono sound.  They're supposed to be fantastic headphones.

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That might be a question for the K712 thread.  I can say that I've never heard anyone say the K712 has "crap" imaging or mono sound.  They're supposed to be fantastic headphones.

I guess I will ask it there.

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No problem mate. I actually bought those pads that are marketed for car baby seats and it worked up to a point but I could still eventually feel the two centre-most bumps. I then cut a credit card in half and attached it across the two bumps with blu-tac & then reapplied the pad.

At some point along that road I thought bugger this and bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 650's. They should have been designed better in the first place.

Interesting :D q701 made you buy hd650 while for me q701 made me sell hd650.

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If we were all the same life would be boring.
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A fully burnt in modded Q701 paired with a Vali is true audio nirvana :k701smile:....... Really digging this pairing! It was a bit hot sounding for me in the beginning but now its amazing! Every genre sounds excellent.

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A fully burnt in modded Q701 paired with a Vali is true audio nirvana :k701smile:....... Really digging this pairing! It was a bit hot sounding for me in the beginning but now its amazing! Every genre sounds excellent.


The pairing is fantastic. The Vali in comparison to most amps have an average soundstage but paired with the Qs, it's a nice balance that brings things in a bit. Adds some sweetness and warmth to the Qs sterile sound as well (stock).

A really good bang-for-buck system would be Modi (USB) or ODAC, Vali, and Q701s. For about $400 it's a fantastic set.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 6/2/14 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by johanchandy View Post
 

A fully burnt in modded Q701 paired with a Vali is true audio nirvana :k701smile:....... Really digging this pairing! It was a bit hot sounding for me in the beginning but now its amazing! Every genre sounds excellent.

 

I agree with this despite not being a fan of the Vali for much else. The Vali sounded nearly like a clone of Headroom Micro Amp (and upgraded power supply) with the Q701. That amp cost me around $350 when I bought it a few years ago. The Vali being able to nearly match that sound for $350 is pretty impressive. I still have a hard time suggesting the Vali unless it's for an AKG.

 

I actually did not really feel the Vali added anything to how the Q701 normally sounds. Sounded transparent. No tube-like sound or whatever. For me the Q701 has never been analytical/clinical sounding unless it was on a weaker amp or just one it hates.

 

Anyway, I wonder why the Vali is so good with the Q701? When I tried the HD-650 the Vali seemed to change it's tune and not sound so good. I had this happen with my DJ100 too. The problem is that the bass was not well controlled, but with the Q701 it was perfect.

 

For the HD-650 the Magni/O2 or Micro were all better, which is kind of strange.

 

BTW FYI the Vali is very similar in sound also to the ifi Ican with the Q701. The ican is a touch warmer and more closed in sounding though. It also cost nearly 3x as much!

 

Vali vs the M-Stage for the Q701 would be a nice review. This would give me an idea of how my current amp compares to the M-Stage. I bet they're quite similar.

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A bit of derailment but the Q701 and Mad Dog 3.2s sounded great out of the Vali. I sold the Vali to a gent with a T90 and he absolutely loves the pairing as well. 3 headphones that it plays well with so far... lol

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Me i asked why Littledot 1+ is not being mention in here?

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Me i asked why Littledot 1+ is not being mention in here?

 

I've seen it mentioned a lot in here since I started following this thread in March or so.  People seem to like the Q701 with tube amps in general as the "tube sound" seems to compensate for the Q's weaknesses.

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Anyone tried both the Valhalla AND Lyr with the Q701?

Which sounded best? Best meaning the most neutral or with a slight touch of warmth.

I know this technically makes no sense, but I bet the Valhalla actually sounds pretty good with the Q701. Not due to any sort of coloration or tube like sound.

 

I highly doubt the Valhalla would under-power the Q701 just due it being better with say a 300-600ohm headphone. Now an He-6 is quite a different story...

 

BTW I like how they released the Version 2 of both of these amps when I don't have a ton of money! No fair!

 

I wonder if one could like any of the above if they didn't like the Asgard 2? Maybe the Lyr is like a Vali on steroids and more of a better all-rounder than the Vali.

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