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post #6661 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Very common for all headphones, and as mentioned Grados in particular. It's actually pretty rare to have things actually go wrong with headphones from the electronics perspective. Usually its the headband/pads wearing out.  I would put headphones breaking in this order.

 

1. Plug(s) at the end(s) of the cable or headphone-side female connector

2. The cable itself.

3. Flux residue that was not cleaned up properly around solder joints becoming conductive and creating short(s).

4. Voice coil leads going to their respective solder joints on the pcb on the back of each driver.

5. Driver

 

That is, unless you're really driving them past listenable points. 

 

Fixed it for you.

You're welcome.  :D 


Edited by Mad Max - 4/27/14 at 9:34am
post #6662 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Very common for all headphones, and as mentioned Grados in particular. It's actually pretty rare to have things actually go wrong with headphones from the electronics perspective. Usually its the headband/pads wearing out.  I would put headphones breaking in this order.

 

1. Plug(s) at the end(s) of the cable or headphone-side female connector

2. The cable itself.

3. Flux residue that was not cleaned up properly around solder joints becoming conductive and creating short(s).

4. Voice coil leads going to their respective solder joints on the pcb on the back of each driver.

5. Driver

 

That is, unless you're really driving them past listenable points. 

 

Fixed it for you.

You're welcome.  :D 

 

Lol, well I didn't want to get into too much detail. All that can be confusing for someone who doesn't know the parts ;)

 

I've actually never heard of flux causing a short. I think you'd really need poor workmanship to do that. 

post #6663 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Lol, well I didn't want to get into too much detail. All that can be confusing for someone who doesn't know the parts ;)

 

I've actually never heard of flux causing a short. I think you'd really need poor workmanship to do that. 

 

Says the guy mentioning solder joints.  It's worth going into the common details anyway.

 

In the rare case of having problems, it is quite common, actually.  Carelessness/imperfection happens - we are all, after all, human.

Even PCBs assembled by machines can end up with this problem.  Poor workmanship isn't necessary for it to occur, but it certainly can aggravate the issue and its rate of occurrence.

 

On the plus side, it is a simple enough problem for anyone to fix with a little concentrated isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) or a small screwdriver.  I just use a small screwdriver and scratch it off (device must not be powered or plugged into anything during this), it doesn't even require enough force to risk damaging the PCB.

 

While I am sure that solder joints could cause a problem since you mentioned it, I think that is only when the joint was improperly made in the first place, otherwise they are practically indestructible under normal circumstances.  It is then everything else around them that can break, or in the case of wiring, rust, which then leads to issues of one kind or another.

post #6664 of 9507

The headband will be the death of me.

post #6665 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Fuzziekiwi View Post
 

The headband will be the death of me.

 

Have you tried one of these things yet?  http://www.amazon.com/JJ-Cole-Collections-Strap-Graphite/dp/B0013IGZIE/

 

I've heard they work wonders and for $10, it's not going to break the bank to test it out...

post #6666 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post

Have you tried one of these things yet?  http://www.amazon.com/JJ-Cole-Collections-Strap-Graphite/dp/B0013IGZIE/

I've heard they work wonders and for $10, it's not going to break the bank to test it out...
I bought something similar and they sorta work. The trouble is they take up whatever slack there was in the headband. Best thing so far? Cut a credit card in half and blu-tac it across the two central bumps. Ugly but relatively effective.
post #6667 of 9507
I dont know why more people dont just cut the middle 4 off and just stick a piece of adhesive backed felt over the affected area. That is what I did with mine and it doesnt look bad at all.


post #6668 of 9507
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I dont know why more people dont just cut the middle 4 off and just stick a piece of adhesive backed felt over the affected area. That is what I did with mine and it doesnt look bad at all.


 

Not enough of us modders around, lazy people, etc.  Or those who do not want to have to be making modifications at all because "they shouldn't have to" or whatever.

"It can't be helped."

post #6669 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
 

 

Not enough of us modders around, lazy people, etc.  Or those who do not want to have to be making modifications at all.

"It can't be helped."


IMO, modifications should only have to be done on a personal basis. If it's necessary to fix a problem that the consensus has with a product, then the company should reassess the issue. For example, I personally can't stand the discomfort of Grado headphones at all, but that doesn't matter to most people who use them. I don't think I've ever seen a positive comment for the Q701 headband, however. Even the people who say that they can break it in complain at first.

 

Not that I expect AKG to remedy this issue. If they've gone this long, they'll probably continue making them like that.

post #6670 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Dragonzeanse View Post
 


IMO, modifications should only have to be done on a personal basis. If it's necessary to fix a problem that the consensus has with a product, then the company should reassess the issue. For example, I personally can't stand the discomfort of Grado headphones at all, but that doesn't matter to most people who use them. I don't think I've ever seen a positive comment for the Q701 headband, however. Even the people who say that they can break it in complain at first.

 

Not that I expect AKG to remedy this issue. If they've gone this long, they'll probably continue making them like that.


I personally have zero problems what-so-ever with the head band.

post #6671 of 9507
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Originally Posted by terance View Post
 


I personally have zero problems what-so-ever with the head band.


Having worn the Q701s, I wish I had your tolerance and/or head shape.

post #6672 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Dragonzeanse View Post


Having worn the Q701s, I wish I had your tolerance and/or head shape.

+1 My pair are for sale.
post #6673 of 9507

It must be head shape.  For me it isn't about tolerance at all, they are comfortable and I'm not in any pain.

 

Now, when I wear Grados my ears are literally aching and I just cannot listen to them for more than 20ish minutes.  A lot of people think that those are very comfortable headphones and it would be unfair to generalize and say that no one has ever thought they were comfortable.

 

Different strokes for different folks, right?


Edited by terance - 4/29/14 at 9:17pm
post #6674 of 9507

I dislike the headband as much an anyone else, but it's not that hard to mod it.  I cut up some memory foam and velcro'd it on the headband, problem solved.  And you can always cut out the bumps too.

post #6675 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 

I dislike the headband as much an anyone else, but it's not that hard to mod it.  I cut up some memory foam and velcro'd it on the headband, problem solved.  And you can always cut out the bumps too.


There are a lot of headphones that can be turned into something spectacular with a bit of modding and this is one of those examples. It's awesome to see people able to take their own approaches to these kinds of things. Companies like Mr. Speakers leave me impressed, even to this day.

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