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post #6436 of 9490
Yes, yes & thrice yes! Writing that post was the same as thinking aloud, sorry. That logic works. The numbers were wrong but it works.

I found a frequency response graph earlier in the thread which clearly showed a narrow-band 2db lift at 2KHz. The trend before this lift is a slight downward tail-off so I decided to add slightly more cut.Therefore these setting in the parametric equalizer flatten that hump out and make the frequency response pretty linear...

In JRiver, go into DSP Studio, click on Parametric Equalizer in the left-hand column and then click add. This opens a drop-down menu with various filters. Choose "Adjust high frequencies (high-shelf filter)". You will the be presented with three parameters you can tailor to suit...

Set Frequency to "2000". Set Bandwidth (Q) to "1". Set gain to "-3".

Activate filter by placing a check in the box. Job done.

I'm sorry if this is preaching to the converted. It's also quite possible I've got something wrong here so if anyone with better knowledge wants to chip in feel free. This seems to just take away that edge which kills my ears. Oh, that reminds me, this works for me with my ears. As ever, YMMV.
post #6437 of 9490
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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post

Zorrofox, can you give an example of a track which shows the problem you're having.

I can give hundreds Darren. This could well be a problem that particularly affects me though. Almost any modern rock / pop recording does it to me. Try "Corporate Cannibal" by Grace Jones (Hurricane). Or anything by Air, Röyksopp, electronic music in general.
post #6438 of 9490

@Zorrofox - you might try experimenting with different materials for the rings that sit on top of the drivers (under the screen of the pads).  Like you, that fatiguing spike around 2 kHz was making the Qs not so enjoyable.  I finally settled on real wool felt.  Had to compress it in a vise, as it was quite thick, which caused the screen to touch my ears.  I found it is the best material to cut back on that spike without compromising the overall sound signature.

 

I prefer this method to constantly EQing.  Also, I love modding my cans :k701smile:

 

Being in Scotland, I reckon you can find some nice wool felt, and maybe not as thick as what I bought off of Amazon.

post #6439 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Any of you Q owners also got a copy of "Lungs" by Florence & The Machine. Is it unbearably bright or is it just me?

That album is naturally bright. I noticed it through my HD558's. The 558's are really dark headphones. It's really that bright to be noticed on them. 

post #6440 of 9490
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

@Zorrofox
 - you might try experimenting with different materials for the rings that sit on top of the drivers (under the screen of the pads).  Like you, that fatiguing spike around 2 kHz was making the Qs not so enjoyable.  I finally settled on real wool felt.  Had to compress it in a vise, as it was quite thick, which caused the screen to touch my ears.  I found it is the best material to cut back on that spike without compromising the overall sound signature.

I prefer this method to constantly EQing.  Also, I love modding my cans k701smile.gif

Being in Scotland, I reckon you can find some nice wool felt, and maybe not as thick as what I bought off of Amazon.

Haha, what are you trying to imply? I will look into that idea. I'm currently modding the headband. I bought these which were delivered this afternoon...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005PK1CYI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They're good but even although they're padded I can still feel those two bumps! I'm now cutting up a credit card (while my better half cheers behind me) in order to tape a piece across the two bumps and then I'll put the pad back on. Funny thing, I wouldn't have said I had an unduly large head but there's no more travel left with this pad fitted. Shrek need not apply.
post #6441 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Haha, what are you trying to imply? I will look into that idea. I'm currently modding the headband. I bought these which were delivered this afternoon...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005PK1CYI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They're good but even although they're padded I can still feel those two bumps! I'm now cutting up a credit card (while my better half cheers behind me) in order to tape a piece across the two bumps and then I'll put the pad back on. Funny thing, I wouldn't have said I had an unduly large head but there's no more travel left with this pad fitted. Shrek need not apply.

 

Uhhhh, that Scotland RULZ!  Duuuuuhhhhh.... :D

 

My wife is in one crazy a$$ tartan phase right now.  She would shoot me if I tried to cut up a credit card.  Shoot me, then keep right on shopping ;)

 

I'm like you re: my head and the Qs.  Sans bumps, with a relatively thin (albeit folded) bandana wrapped around, I barely have any wiggle room.  Those pads to which you link look nice and soft, but thick.

post #6442 of 9490

@Zorrofox, slightly pricer suggestion:  I've heard that the K702 Anniversary pads are a great mod for the Q701.  I think they're supposed to help with both the treble and the bass (as opposed to the bass port mod).  Last I priced them out here, it was about $60...


Edited by Stillhart - 4/7/14 at 9:23am
post #6443 of 9490
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

Uhhhh, that Scotland RULZ!  Duuuuuhhhhh.... biggrin.gif

My wife is in one crazy a$$ tartan phase right now.  She would shoot me if I tried to cut up a credit card.  Shoot me, then keep right on shopping wink.gif

I'm like you re: my head and the Qs.  Sans bumps, with a relatively thin (albeit folded) bandana wrapped around, I barely have any wiggle room.  Those pads to which you link look nice and soft, but thick.

Scotland is an interesting place to be right now, what with the referendum coming up and the 700th anniversary of the battle of Bannockburn and the Commonwealth Games. It's also quite interesting being likened to the Nazis in all the Scottish media. Interesting doesn't quite cover it.

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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post

@Zorrofox
, slightly pricer suggestion:  I've heard that the K702 Anniversary pads are a great mod for the Q701.  I think they're supposed to help with both the treble and the bass (as opposed to the bass port mod).  Last I priced them out here, it was about $60...

I've heard that before, where did you see those pads. Isn't the difference that the pad is a uniform thickness all around whereas the Q's are angled so that the treble specifically targets my lugs? I really fancy buying the HD650 anyway but my wife is seriously beginning to think I have some issues. I keep telling her it's cheaper than drugs but...
post #6444 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post


I can give hundreds Darren. This could well be a problem that particularly affects me though. Almost any modern rock / pop recording does it to me. Try "Corporate Cannibal" by Grace Jones (Hurricane). Or anything by Air, Röyksopp, electronic music in general.

Zorrofox, can I ask if you run your O2 DAC/amp from a battery (does the Belkin UPS act as a battery power source?) or from the mains?


Edited by darrenyeats - 4/7/14 at 9:39am
post #6445 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I've heard that before, where did you see those pads. Isn't the difference that the pad is a uniform thickness all around whereas the Q's are angled so that the treble specifically targets my lugs? I really fancy buying the HD650 anyway but my wife is seriously beginning to think I have some issues. I keep telling her it's cheaper than drugs but...

 

You have to call the AKG Support in your country and ask for them; the website has the phone numbers and you can find the part numbers on the web if you search a bit (I have it bookmarked at home).  I'm not sure if they're angled or not, but I know they're memory foam, which is supposed to give it a warmer sound.

post #6446 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post


Scotland is an interesting place to be right now, what with the referendum coming up and the 700th anniversary of the battle of Bannockburn and the Commonwealth Games. It's also quite interesting being likened to the Nazis in all the Scottish media. Interesting doesn't quite cover it.
I've heard that before, where did you see those pads. Isn't the difference that the pad is a uniform thickness all around whereas the Q's are angled so that the treble specifically targets my lugs? I really fancy buying the HD650 anyway but my wife is seriously beginning to think I have some issues. I keep telling her it's cheaper than drugs but...

hahaha. They would compliment the Q701's well I bet. 

post #6447 of 9490
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Originally Posted by AuTra View Post
 

Hey guys my Q701s finally died on me. The right ear just went out one day.

 

 

How long ago did you buy them and where did you buy them from? You could probably warranty them.

 

You could even ask for a replacement driver and fix it yourself if you're halfway proficient with a soldering iron.

 

Frank, the AKG parts guy is very nice I'm sure he could help you out with a new driver.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Here's where I'm at. These headphones are giving me the best sound I have personally ever heard. The clarity, depth, width, attack is as good as I want it to be. But (you knew there was one) I'm finding the peak in the treble very fatiguing. So much so that I nearly pulled the trigger on a pair of HD650's this morning. Thing is I can't really justify the expense of those and so I'm looking for help in toning down this problem.

I believe there's a slight peak around 2k and I'm thinking if I can find a way to reduce this I might just be able to save a lot of money. I'm using JRiver and it has parametric options. It has lots of options, lol. Can anyone tell me what "Q" refers to? Is it the "width" of the adjustment I make?

For instance, if I set the high-shelf frequency to 2100Hz and then set gain to -3db does this mean that when I set the Q value to 6 the adjustment will apply to the frequency range of 1800Hz to 2400Hz? Does that sound logical?

 

Have you done the bassport mod yet?

post #6448 of 9490
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Originally Posted by CloudMoose View Post
 

Frank, the AKG parts guy is very nice I'm sure he could help you out with a new driver.

 

 

 

Frank left AKG.  There are a couple of other guys to contact now.  Their names, emails and numbers are back a few pages in this thread, or the Reversible Mod thread.  Of course, that's US only.  Pretty sure they don't ship elsewhere.  Just thought I'd mention it.

post #6449 of 9490
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

Frank left AKG.  There are a couple of other guys to contact now.  Their names, emails and numbers are back a few pages in this thread, or the Reversible Mod thread.  Of course, that's US only.  Pretty sure they don't ship elsewhere.  Just thought I'd mention it.

It would come as no surprise to me that they were not available in Europe, even though AKG are a European (Austria) company.
post #6450 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

It would come as no surprise to me that they were not available in Europe, even though AKG are a European (Austria) company.

 

Oh, didn't mean to imply that.  You just need to find out how to contact AKGs Euro customer support.  Before Frank left AKG US he mentioned that they hadn't received any replacement parts for the K712.  I assume they were available in Europe, though perhaps not.  Maybe they didn't have any replacement parts... nah!  That's crazy talk.  Also, in the US it's far less expensive to get certain parts direct from AKG.  For example, the replacement Q701 pads are $35/pair shipped from AKG, and the only other outlet that has the black version charges $35 for one before shipping.

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