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post #6391 of 9507

I guess I didn't actually say what my serial number was...   I got 14544 (the random number I decided on to use in my forum name). I don't really know how many have been produced, but with these being in production for at least a few years (right?), I assumed it'd be a lot higher than that. 

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I guess I didn't actually say what my serial number was...   I got 14544 (the random number I decided on to use in my forum name). I don't really know how many have been produced, but with these being in production for at least a few years (right?), I assumed it'd be a lot higher than that. 

From what I can tell, the Q701 serial numbers are separate from the K70x models. I remember browsing through that thread and seeing serials much higher there, like in the 50,000s or something like that. I also got mine on Amazon warehouse--like-new, and it turned out to be a returned, unopened, Austrian model. :)

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Also, I bought this used from Amazon last week but I was surprised by how low the serial number was. I'm curious as to what other people's serial number is.


Mine is 10559.  (It is a "like new" made in Austria set, bought during the February Amazon sale.)

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I wonder how high the serial numbers are for the newer Chinese models? Anyone here happen to have one and would like to share?

 

Pity that these don't sell like hotcakes at the price they're going for, especially compared to the Beats and Bose headphones which have sold in the hundreds of thousands of units. In fact, I remember when these (when as the K701) went for $400 to $500 back around 2006 when I got my first audiophile headphones, the Sennheiser HD555.

 

Just another question out of curiosity: Am I the only one who feels acoustically threatened by the DT880's treble peak, which, to me, is nowhere to be heard in the Q701? I like the concept behind the DT880's musical addition of increased treble but beyond that it does it in such an uneven and drastic way in one spot around 8 to 10 KHz that it can be very painful to listen to. That treble peak also makes itself known by making sounds relying on treble reverberation come across as off tune, incoherent and fake, especially in binaural water recordings. In the Q701, water sounds very convincingly real and treble just falls into place with the rest of the ranges. If Beyerdynamic could smooth out the treble peak so it was a gradual lift instead of aurally perceived anomaly, I would like the DT880.


Edited by Hifihedgehog - 4/5/14 at 12:27am
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I think it's a shame akg decided to go to China on the Qs. I guess this happened so they have space for new headphones in Austria like the 812s.
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I think it's a shame akg decided to go to China on the Qs. I guess this happened so they have space for new headphones in Austria like the 812s.

Mine's Chinese and so far it is the best headphone I've ever owned.  No shame here.

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Mine's Chinese and so far it is the best headphone I've ever owned.  No shame here.

 

Out of curiosity, what is the serial number on yours?

 

 

EDIT: Also, this is my solution to the headband bumps. Before I bought the Q701, I read about the complaints about the bumps but I didn't think it would be THAT bad...   but on my balding head, it was very uncomfortable.

 


Edited by timmy14544 - 4/4/14 at 9:15pm
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Mine's Chinese and so far it is the best headphone I've ever owned.  No shame here.

No doubt I think the quality is up to par... just the fact that it was originally made one place then to another is kinda whacky.

For example PRS guitar has their Korean made line which is 1/4 to 1/8 of the cost of the ones made in USA. Different wood and pickups I suppose which is a good portion of the price but a premium is still added for that Made in USA bit.
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Out of curiosity, what is the serial number on yours?

 

 

EDIT: Also, this is my solution to the headband bumps. Before I bought the Q701, I read about the complaints about the bumps but I didn't think it would be THAT bad...   but on my balding head, it was very uncomfortable.

 

SN 103158.  I wonder if they reset it to 100k when they moved?

 

BTW, I have those exact pads... for my car seat.  lol

post #6400 of 9507

My Austria-made Q701 is 10532.  It's NOS from Amazon warehouse.

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I do and here's the answer: If you set the DAC in ASIO to bit match the input file and that file is 16-bit, then when you set the volume lower than 100% while using that 16-bit window of resolution, you lose some of the dynamics inherent to the track and it sounds mushy, boring and less realistic. Effectively, you normally get more or less 12-bits (or 4096 steps) of real world dynamic control versus the full 16-bits (65536 steps), a vast difference in quality in my personal experience.

 

I wasn't reducing the digital volume.

 

The effect I'm referring to was reducing the volume on a completely analog headphone amp (i.e. volume reduction in the analog realm).

I often use a CD player into a DAC, there's no way to reduce the digital volume even if I wanted to.

Or I use an iPod into a digital dock, there's still no way to reduce the volume via DSP even if I want to.

 

I find it's easier to listen at low levels without reducing detail with the better DAC I just purchased.

The DAC I used before didn't sound very good unless I turned the volume up.  

The DAC before that was just plain foggy with really good 'phones.

That's all I was saying...:o 

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I really don't know how I should feel about mixing/mastering with the Q701's...
This was only a practice, but I moved amplifiers and positioned them, testing levels with the Q701's..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586040/official-asian-anime-manga-and-music-lounge/109485#post_10427721

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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

No doubt I think the quality is up to par... just the fact that it was originally made one place then to another is kinda whacky.

For example PRS guitar has their Korean made line which is 1/4 to 1/8 of the cost of the ones made in USA. Different wood and pickups I suppose which is a good portion of the price but a premium is still added for that Made in USA bit.

 

And this is why so many companies have production facilities in China: cheaper labor.  Just a fact of the way the global economy works.  That's why I try to support US companies like Schiit and JDS Labs (would be German companies, if I were German, etc.).  Not a knock against Chinese factory workers.  If foreign companies want to set up shop there, it's on them to ensure quality control on the production line.  I just looked at my CVS batteries.  Made in China.  Shocker! (not).  They last as long as Energizers or Duracells, and I can usually find 10-pack AAAs at Buy-One-Get-One-Free when I need to restock.

 

I've no complaints about my MiC white Qs, except perhaps that screw that decided to go wandering into the driver housing.  It would be fun to own a MiA version to do a comparison, but I'm not losing any sleep over the fact that's never going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post
 

I really don't know how I should feel about mixing/mastering with the Q701's...
This was only a practice, but I moved amplifiers and positioned them, testing levels with the Q701's..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586040/official-asian-anime-manga-and-music-lounge/109485#post_10427721

 

Some people over at Gear Slutz like the Qs for studio work, but I always hear that it's a big no-no mixing with cans.  I suppose it doesn't hurt to use them as a reference (pun intended) after mixing on monitors.  I'm not an engineer, but my Tokyo bro has a nice little studio, and he is of the cans = no-no mindset.

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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post

I really don't know how I should feel about mixing/mastering with the Q701's...

This was only a practice, but I moved amplifiers and positioned them, testing levels with the Q701's..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586040/official-asian-anime-manga-and-music-lounge/109485#post_10427721

Most people listen to music via loudspeakers, so why mix & master using headphones?
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