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post #6301 of 9490
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Originally Posted by terance View Post
 


Since purchasing my Q701s I have listened to them almost exclusively while amped.

 

Was bored this weekend and plugged them straight into my Vita and 3DS to see how they sounded and I was very pleasantly surprised.  They sounded pretty good, much better than I thought they would.  However, something is definitely missing.

 

I then went back and forth between my computer set up (ele dac and asgard 2) and my phone (headphone jack) and the difference is noticeable.  How noticeable?  For someone who listens to music on their computer often while doing my homework I would say it was worth the price I paid for the Asgard 2 and the cheapy dac ($220ish total). 

 

That being said, I would certainly feel content listening to them straight out of my computer headphone jack, or any of my portable headphone jacks.  The Q701's seem to scale very well and you shouldn't feel like you are completely missing out or wasting them by using the headphone jack of any of your equipment.

 

I agree with all this.

I think the truth is........"it depends".

 

My Qs sound very flat and uninvolving from the headphone jack on my old HP notebook PC.

But they sound fine from an iPod.

 

Sure they sound better from a better amp and DAC but, I agree, they usually scale quite well.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

You guys are aware of different rates of taxation, standard and cost of living, right?

Anyway, as I've pointed out, it is not my experience that any old DAC/amp at a given rice will make the Q's sing. The Fiio E18 fits those criteria and fails, miserably. The ODAC/O2 walks all over it for not much more money. True, it's not a portable solution like the E18 but then neither are the Q's themselves. Your mileage won't vary very much. I don't have bionic ears. The difference is night & day.

Stillhart, the bass is awesome on these, when required.

 

 

Chillax bro.

They're just headphones!

post #6302 of 9490

What if I told you guys I found an AKG clone HP that can rival the X701 series for less than $50? I post this here because there's an uncanny sound similarity to the Q701 with a little bit more clarity..

post #6303 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

What if I told you guys I found an AKG clone HP that can rival the X701 series for less than $50? I post this here because there's an uncanny sound similarity to the Q701 with a little bit more clarity..

 

Are you looking for "Sounds good to me"?  lol

post #6304 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

What if I told you guys I found an AKG clone HP that can rival the X701 series for less than $50? I post this here because there's an uncanny sound similarity to the Q701 with a little bit more clarity..

OK, I'll take the bait. I don't believe it!
post #6305 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Are you looking for "Sounds good to me"?  lol


I've found several but I've never found one where the wallet said the same :atsmile: 

Edit: Oh you're saying sounds good to me like 'let us have it' lol. Internet can be a hard place to understand what people are saying sometimes. Give me a second ladies and gents, I'll have a link on my signature in a second. I'll also edit here for you mobile users.

Edit 2: http://www.head-fi.org/products/superlux-hd-668-b/reviews/10766
A couple of things it doesn't have that the Qs do are soundstage and sub-bass. The Qs also have a very nice decay to it where as these sound dry and fast. Still at $40, you can't really complain a whole lot.


With charts you can see the resemblance on frequency response. The Q701 does have better bass and has better roll-off, flat response as well. The HD668B has a cliff of a decline from 60hz down, which means sub-bass isn't really there. THere's also a boost in the bass region but it doesn't bleed into the mids.

Here's the Q701 frequency response in blue:

 


Chart of the HD668B (also in blue):


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 4/2/14 at 5:52pm
post #6306 of 9490

I stopped in at a friend's house after work today. I was able to have a 30 minute listen to the Q701 with a few flac tracks I really recognize. The soundstage, midrange, and details are all better than on my DT770 Pro 250 ohm. I could easily hear things in the music that just can't be heard in the Beyer. It was nice to hear some music without the bloated and boomy bass of the DT770 Pro as well.  I can't say much at this point about the comfort (headband bumps) issue that I continue to hear about, as I only had about a 30 minute session.That being said, I found the treble on the Q701 to be just a little too bright for me. I imagine that it would become a real issue for me during longer listening sessions. The bass was very tight, controlled, and detailed. It does not reach down low, but then again, I have been hearing the boomy and muddy slam of the DT770 Pro for months now. My buddy said he has at least 200 hours on his Q701 pair, so they are obviously well burned in. Overall, I have to say that the Q701 has a very detailed and airy sound to it. If the bass had a tiny bit more impact and extension, and the highs were just a tad less bright, this would be my new headphone for sure. I might just go ahead and buy the AKG K612 Pro instead now. From researching and checking reviews, it appears to have a very similar sound to the Q701, but more neutral sounding. It is said to have slightly more bass impact, and a tad less brightness in the treble. while still retaining that great soundstage and midrange.

post #6307 of 9490
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Originally Posted by DW75 View Post
 

I stopped in at a friend's house after work today. I was able to have a 30 minute listen to the Q701 with a few flac tracks I really recognize. The soundstage, midrange, and details are all better than on my DT770 Pro 250 ohm. I could easily hear things in the music that just can't be heard in the Beyer. It was nice to hear some music without the bloated and boomy bass of the DT770 Pro as well.  I can't say much at this point about the comfort (headband bumps) issue that I continue to hear about, as I only had about a 30 minute session.That being said, I found the treble on the Q701 to be just a little too bright for me. I imagine that it would become a real issue for me during longer listening sessions. The bass was very tight, controlled, and detailed. It does not reach down low, but then again, I have been hearing the boomy and muddy slam of the DT770 Pro for months now. My buddy said he has at least 200 hours on his Q701 pair, so they are obviously well burned in. Overall, I have to say that the Q701 has a very detailed and airy sound to it. If the bass had a tiny bit more impact and extension, and the highs were just a tad less bright, this would be my new headphone for sure. I might just go ahead and buy the AKG K612 Pro instead now. From researching and checking reviews, it appears to have a very similar sound to the Q701, but more neutral sounding. It is said to have slightly more bass impact, and a tad less brightness in the treble. while still retaining that great soundstage and midrange.

Your impressions of the lows and the highs match mine exactly.  Let me tell you:  the bass mod fixes both of those IMO.  The charts say the highs don't move much, so maybe the bass makes the crazy highs less noticeable?  Either way, once I did the bass mod, it was clear to me that these were keepers.

post #6308 of 9490
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Originally Posted by DW75 View Post

I stopped in at a friend's house after work today. I was able to have a 30 minute listen to the Q701 with a few flac tracks I really recognize. The soundstage, midrange, and details are all better than on my DT770 Pro 250 ohm. I could easily hear things in the music that just can't be heard in the Beyer. It was nice to hear some music without the bloated and boomy bass of the DT770 Pro as well.  I can't say much at this point about the comfort (headband bumps) issue that I continue to hear about, as I only had about a 30 minute session.That being said, I found the treble on the Q701 to be just a little too bright for me. I imagine that it would become a real issue for me during longer listening sessions. The bass was very tight, controlled, and detailed. It does not reach down low, but then again, I have been hearing the boomy and muddy slam of the DT770 Pro for months now. My buddy said he has at least 200 hours on his Q701 pair, so they are obviously well burned in. Overall, I have to say that the Q701 has a very detailed and airy sound to it. If the bass had a tiny bit more impact and extension, and the highs were just a tad less bright, this would be my new headphone for sure. I might just go ahead and buy the AKG K612 Pro instead now. From researching and checking reviews, it appears to have a very similar sound to the Q701, but more neutral sounding. It is said to have slightly more bass impact, and a tad less brightness in the treble. while still retaining that great soundstage and midrange.

Man, I've really gotten used to that treble. That and lower listening levels.
post #6309 of 9490
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Originally Posted by DW75 View Post
 

I stopped in at a friend's house after work today. I was able to have a 30 minute listen to the Q701 with a few flac tracks I really recognize. The soundstage, midrange, and details are all better than on my DT770 Pro 250 ohm. I could easily hear things in the music that just can't be heard in the Beyer. It was nice to hear some music without the bloated and boomy bass of the DT770 Pro as well.  I can't say much at this point about the comfort (headband bumps) issue that I continue to hear about, as I only had about a 30 minute session.That being said, I found the treble on the Q701 to be just a little too bright for me. I imagine that it would become a real issue for me during longer listening sessions. The bass was very tight, controlled, and detailed. It does not reach down low, but then again, I have been hearing the boomy and muddy slam of the DT770 Pro for months now. My buddy said he has at least 200 hours on his Q701 pair, so they are obviously well burned in. Overall, I have to say that the Q701 has a very detailed and airy sound to it. If the bass had a tiny bit more impact and extension, and the highs were just a tad less bright, this would be my new headphone for sure. I might just go ahead and buy the AKG K612 Pro instead now. From researching and checking reviews, it appears to have a very similar sound to the Q701, but more neutral sounding. It is said to have slightly more bass impact, and a tad less brightness in the treble. while still retaining that great soundstage and midrange.

What amp/Dac did you listen to?  The Q701 can sound harsh with the wrong pairing.  Also with the right amp and the bass mod I think the bass extends quite well and there is enough impact to make it very versatile in all genres of music.

post #6310 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 

What amp/Dac did you listen to?  The Q701 can sound harsh with the wrong pairing.  Also with the right amp and the bass mod I think the bass extends quite well and there is enough impact to make it very versatile in all genres of music.

 

I brought over my Racoon SG300 tube AMP DAC combo. It has the PSVANE 12AT7-T tube in it. It is a warmer sounding unit. I wanted to make sure I was testing the headphones out with an amp I already own. On a side note, the DT770 Pro 250 ohm problem with the recessed mids has improve greatly with the Racoon. I got the Racoon about 10 days ago. The bass of the DT770 Pro on the Racoon is more controlled than it was on the Fiio E10 I upgraded from also, but still far from perfect. From what I have read about the AKG K612 Pro, it may just be the neutral and detailed sound I have been looking for.


Edited by DW75 - 4/2/14 at 6:46pm
post #6311 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Are you looking for "Sounds good to me"?  lol




Edit 2: http://www.head-fi.org/products/superlux-hd-668-b/reviews/10766
A couple of things it doesn't have that the Qs do are soundstage and sub-bass. The Qs also have a very nice decay to it where as these sound dry and fast. Still at $40, you can't really complain a whole lot.

I have the Samson SR850, which is a Superlux HD-668b clone and supposedly sounds almost the same. I realize that some head-fiers like the SR850 and the HD-668b and respect their opinion, but in this case I agree with Tyll Hertsens: It "sounded like listening to good headphones through razor blades" (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/superlux-hd-668b-and-hd-681-headphones-page-2). I do not like listening through them, and I tried. I think that they are much worse than the Q701 and that there are better choices at similar prices: CAL!, Philips SHL5500, Beyer DT-235, JVC HA-S400 immediately come to mind.
 

post #6312 of 9490
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Originally Posted by MarcoGV View Post
 

I have the Samson SR850, which is a Superlux HD-668b clone and supposedly sounds almost the same. I realize that some head-fiers like the SR850 and the HD-668b and respect their opinion, but in this case I agree with Tyll Hertsens: It "sounded like listening to good headphones through razor blades" (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/superlux-hd-668b-and-hd-681-headphones-page-2). I do not like listening through them, and I tried. I think that they are much worse than the Q701 and that there are better choices at similar prices: CAL!, Philips SHL5500, Beyer DT-235, JVC HA-S400 immediately come to mind.
 


Different tastes I suppose. If you have sensitivity to treble I can certainly understand that. If the Qs had less decay, the mids and treble would definitely sound very similar to the 668B.

I've had the DT235 and in opinion those are inferior. The S500 (never tried the S400) has great bass but has a V shaped sound which to me would be comparing apples and oranges sound wise in how they represent frequencies.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 4/2/14 at 8:14pm
post #6313 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Any other binaural albums you'd recommend?

I found this Youtube gem http://youtu.be/VvoEnc-uvGQ

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post #6314 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 


I've found several but I've never found one where the wallet said the same :atsmile: 

Edit: Oh you're saying sounds good to me like 'let us have it' lol. Internet can be a hard place to understand what people are saying sometimes. Give me a second ladies and gents, I'll have a link on my signature in a second. I'll also edit here for you mobile users.

Edit 2: http://www.head-fi.org/products/superlux-hd-668-b/reviews/10766
A couple of things it doesn't have that the Qs do are soundstage and sub-bass. The Qs also have a very nice decay to it where as these sound dry and fast. Still at $40, you can't really complain a whole lot.


With charts you can see the resemblance on frequency response. The Q701 does have better bass and has better roll-off, flat response as well. The HD668B has a cliff of a decline from 60hz down, which means sub-bass isn't really there. THere's also a boost in the bass region but it doesn't bleed into the mids.

Here's the Q701 frequency response in blue:

 


Chart of the HD668B (also in blue):


I've owned both and I only partially believe in it. Here's a quick headphone comparison for reference. The HD681 are, to my ears, better than the DT880 which has unnatural treble response in comparison and MIA mids. The HD681 also has much better definition and balance than the HD650. However, where they fail is they have a clear resonance issue that sucks out the inner detail, dynamics and life out of them. For some people, this can make them sound worse than the HD650 and DT880. For me, the balance is so good that I can still get more detail or naturality compared to those two HiFi headphones. However, compared to the K/Q701, the HD681 don't hold a candle to them in any department. Pardon the expression that is being said here a lot in this thread, but it's night and day. Don't get me wrong: The HD681 are definitely great headphones, making headphones like the ATH-m50 and SRH840 pointless purchases if only sound quality (like me) is your pursuit, but they are definitely not the world's best headphones.


Edited by Hifihedgehog - 4/2/14 at 9:23pm
post #6315 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post

What amp/Dac did you listen to?  The Q701 can sound harsh with the wrong pairing.  Also with the right amp and the bass mod I think the bass extends quite well and there is enough impact to make it very versatile in all genres of music.

You took the words right out of my mouth.
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