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post #6286 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post

 

I suspect you're right, that's it's mostly the DAC.  But I am not so sure, based on what I've heard about the Q701 needing amping so badly.

 

 

No, not really.  Some people like their sound flavored, some people don't.  Ask any tube fan.  There are markets for all kinds out there and O2 is going for the "transparent sound" market.

 



You can drive Q701 off an iPad.
They sound just fine.
They're not that hard to drive.
post #6287 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

I suspect you're right, that's it's mostly the DAC.  But I am not so sure, based on what I've heard about the Q701 needing amping so badly.

 

 

No, not really.  Some people like their sound flavored, some people don't.  Ask any tube fan.  There are markets for all kinds out there and O2 is going for the "transparent sound" market.

 



You can drive Q701 off an iPad.
They sound just fine.
They're not that hard to drive.

You don't have to tell me; I love them and I have no amp right now.  But LOTS of people say you're not getting the best sound out of them if they're not amped.  I imagine that I won't know for sure until I hear it for myself.

post #6288 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

You don't have to tell me; I love them and I have no amp right now.  But LOTS of people say you're not getting the best sound out of them if they're not amped.  I imagine that I won't know for sure until I hear it for myself.


Since purchasing my Q701s I have listened to them almost exclusively while amped.

 

Was bored this weekend and plugged them straight into my Vita and 3DS to see how they sounded and I was very pleasantly surprised.  They sounded pretty good, much better than I thought they would.  However, something is definitely missing.

 

I then went back and forth between my computer set up (ele dac and asgard 2) and my phone (headphone jack) and the difference is noticeable.  How noticeable?  For someone who listens to music on their computer often while doing my homework I would say it was worth the price I paid for the Asgard 2 and the cheapy dac ($220ish total). 

 

That being said, I would certainly feel content listening to them straight out of my computer headphone jack, or any of my portable headphone jacks.  The Q701's seem to scale very well and you shouldn't feel like you are completely missing out or wasting them by using the headphone jack of any of your equipment.


Edited by terance - 4/2/14 at 10:24am
post #6289 of 9490

Meant to edit my post and I quoted it, doh!

post #6290 of 9490
I can't really say I agree with any of this to be honest. I owned my E18 before I bought the Q's and so the AKG's have been amped since day one. Buying the ODAC & O2 has brought a night & day difference. Not subtle, dramatic! Whether that's down to the DAC, amp or both I don't know. They cost less than the headphones though.
post #6291 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I can't really say I agree with any of this to be honest. I owned my E18 before I bought the Q's and so the AKG's have been amped since day one. Buying the ODAC & O2 has brought a night & day difference. Not subtle, dramatic! Whether that's down to the DAC, amp or both I don't know. They cost less than the headphones though.

 

Not the JDS Labs ones...  ODAC alone is $150 and O2+ODAC in one is $280 (plus a power plug for another $10+).  The Q701 is $200 right now new, and they're not hard to find used.

 

In the $200 price range, I can get a nice used amp (Asgard 2, M-stage, etc) or a Amp+DAC (Vali/Modi, O2+ODAC, etc), I'm curious which would be the better bang for my buck.  I'm leaning towards just an amp because, eventually, I'd like a DAC that has optical-in and those don't tend to come cheaper than $200.

post #6292 of 9490
Well you're where you are and I'm where I am. I paid £220 for the cans and £208 for the DAC & amp. Either way, bang for buck (quid), it's a bargain.
post #6293 of 9490
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Well you're where you are and I'm where I am. I paid £220 for the cans and £208 for the DAC & amp. Either way, bang for buck (quid), it's a bargain.

 

Ouch, that's $365 at today's rate.  It think the Q is worth it, but I paid less than half that for mine.

post #6294 of 9490

I safely say the same thing. It's decently clear and engaging on my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet. I would imagine it would sound the same or better on my family member's iPad. It doesn't, however, sound good on my iPhone 4S--very muddy and uncontrolled.

post #6295 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Ouch, that's $365 at today's rate.  It think the Q is worth it, but I paid less than half that for mine.


I paid nearly a third of that--$129 with One Day Prime shipping. It was for a like-new condition lime green Q701 which was really a returned unopened Austrian-made one. This was during that deep discount at the end of February on Amazon Warehouse.

post #6296 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Sonichedgehog360 View Post
 


I paid nearly a third of that--$129 with One Day Prime shipping. It was for a like-new condition lime green Q701 which was really a returned unopened Austrian-made one. This was during that deep discount at the end of February on Amazon Warehouse.


With a price like that, I think the Q701's step over everything. Just find a DAC/AMP that will cost $120-$200 to fully power the Q701's, and one could potentially own one of the best headphones ever made for the price...

Not even gaming headphones that cost $300 will match up to a gaming experience at this price.'

 

>Fanboy

post #6297 of 9490
You guys are aware of different rates of taxation, standard and cost of living, right?

Anyway, as I've pointed out, it is not my experience that any old DAC/amp at a given rice will make the Q's sing. The Fiio E18 fits those criteria and fails, miserably. The ODAC/O2 walks all over it for not much more money. True, it's not a portable solution like the E18 but then neither are the Q's themselves. Your mileage won't vary very much. I don't have bionic ears. The difference is night & day.

Stillhart, the bass is awesome on these, when required.
post #6298 of 9490
If you can find a Yulong D100 for under $300, those will make the Qs sing as well. Just to throw another in the mix.
post #6299 of 9490

I use my (bass modded) Q701s with a Benchmark DAC1 HDR that I had already for my main system. Since set up as described here http://www.head-fi.org/t/685401/benchmark-dac1-hdr-set-up#post_9879082 it's been great.

 

I'm not that impressed with the sound of the Q701s direct from my tablet (Nexus 10) but I'm happy to listen from my phone (HTC Sensation) when necessary. So IME it depends on the mobile device.


Edited by darrenyeats - 4/2/14 at 4:02pm
post #6300 of 9490
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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post
 

I use my modded Q701s with a Benchmark DAC1 HDR that I had already for my main system. Since I've set it up as described here http://www.head-fi.org/t/685401/benchmark-dac1-hdr-set-up#post_9879082 it's been great.

 

I'm not that impressed with the sound of the Q701s direct from my tablet (Nexus 10) but I'm happy to listen from my phone (HTC Sensation). So IME it depends on the mobile device.

To me, that sounds like a DAC thing...

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