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post #6001 of 9507
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Originally Posted by eimis View Post
 

Is this the headband you're using? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190702655747 I've been wondering whether it would fit Q701

 

Yeah... But when I bought it on Amazon it was $12.

 

If you have a large head like mine, the headband will not fit unless you cut off the bumps. Without the middle 4 bumps, with the headband these headphones are a perfect fit. If I wee to add anything else to the padding, the earcups won't come down low enough to be as comfortable as they are now. If you have a small head, it might work with the bumps.


Edited by Bogatyr - 3/15/14 at 12:42am
post #6002 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
 

Had my latest pair of Q701s for little over a month now. Three main concerns arose over the period of time: quiet bass, bright treble, uncomfortable headband. Today I decided to do the all-familiar mods.

 

 

Pix of mods (Click to show)

 

First off, hacked away the headband bumps with an Xacto knife.

 

 

Added additional foam to the center of the drivers to shave off extra treble.

 

 

Made a pinhole through the bass port.

 

 

Strapped on Beyerdynamic headband.

 

 

 

 

 

Been playing Call of Duty 4 for the past few hours while listening to electronic music.

 

Headband comfort issue is gone, treble seems slightly smoother, bass is definitely good 10% punchier.

 

I wish I didn't have to massacre the headband, but I'd say it was worth it.

 

In the end, this was a good way to spend an hour, I'm debating whether to make the pinholes bigger but I don't want to reach the point where low end becomes too loose and flabby.

 

Nice mods.  I never thought to cover the entire driver, just change the ring material.  And you've made me want to finally try the "pin holes in the cover" mod.  Seems we're looking to tweak the Qs the same way.  More things to play with now :D 


Edited by ThurstonX - 3/15/14 at 10:19am
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I'm loving my Q701 & want to upgrade from my E17 to a semi portable rig with tubes like the Pan Am. Anyone have any experience with the Pan Am & the Q701? Also feel free to suggest any other tube amps that would work, I'd prefer something a little portable for travel & office set up, not necessarily something that has to fit in my pocket since I already have the E17 & don't wear phones to commute. I just need to move my amp & DAC from room to room or bring to a hotel for my business travel. My budget is about $500 & prefer to buy used . In my main system I've run BAT, Quicksilver & Rogue tube amps, I tend to prefer the EL34 based designs.
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Originally Posted by Fishwater View Post

I'm loving my Q701 & want to upgrade from my E17 to a semi portable rig with tubes like the Pan Am. Anyone have any experience with the Pan Am & the Q701? Also feel free to suggest any other tube amps that would work, I'd prefer something a little portable for travel & office set up, not necessarily something that has to fit in my pocket since I already have the E17 & don't wear phones to commute. I just need to move my amp & DAC from room to room or bring to a hotel for my business travel. My budget is about $500 & prefer to buy used . In my main system I've run BAT, Quicksilver & Rogue tube amps, I tend to prefer the EL34 based designs.

consider aune T1, matter of fact Q701 matches 70% of the equipment you throw at it, so won't miss by too much disappointments

 

oh wait.. you want a battery powered one? portatube perhaps?

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Battery powered is preferred but not completely necessary, I'll look into your recommendations, thanks!
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post

 

In the end, this was a good way to spend an hour, I'm debating whether to make the pinholes bigger but I don't want to reach the point where low end becomes too loose and flabby.

 

In my comparison of the Q701 with bass port mod and high end headphones (http://www.head-fi.org/t/582276/q701-appreciation-thread/5970#post_10359232) I never once felt the bass to be loose or flabby. Also, some of the other headphones still seemed to have more bass than the modded Q701.

 

The only problem I can envisage is where you've already rolled DAC and amp to warm up the stock Q701. Then some caution might be justified.


Edited by darrenyeats - 3/16/14 at 7:41am
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I noticed last night that source definitely makes a difference, esp. when the Qs have been modded.  I usually listen on my Lyr+Bifrost stack, but I'd shutdown my laptop, so I plugged the Qs into my Rockbox'd iPod+LOD-to-C5.  Man, is the iPod DAC "warm".  Not saying it was bad, and I could get used to the Qs with that combo, but it's not really a fair fight in terms of power and DAC (soundstage and details are noticeably better with the Schiit stack).  If the iPod+C5 were all I had, I'd reverse the bass port mod and try to trim the upper frequencies a little, a la @Bogatyr's experiments.

 

FWIW, atm my bass port mod is loosely covered with cheap synthetic felt from Walmart.


Edited by ThurstonX - 3/16/14 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

I noticed last night that source definitely makes a difference, esp. when the Qs have been modded.  I usually listen on my Lyr+Bifrost stack, but I'd shutdown my laptop, so I plugged the Qs into my Rockbox'd iPod+LOD-to-C5.  Man, is the iPod DAC "warm".  Not saying it was bad, and I could get used to the Qs with that combo, but it's not really a fair fight in terms of power and DAC (soundstage and details are noticeably better with the Schiit stack).  If the iPod+C5 were all I had, I'd reverse the bass port mod and try to trim the upper frequencies a little, a la @Bogatyr's experiments.

 

FWIW, atm my bass port mod is loosely covered with cheap synthetic felt from Walmart.

Which gen iPod? The iPhone 5 is supposed to be very good measurement-wise (I'm not an Apple user by the way ...!)

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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post
 

Which gen iPod? The iPhone 5 is supposed to be very good measurement-wise (I'm not an Apple user by the way ...!)

 

160 GB 6th gen Classic.  It's a fine DAC (Wolfson, pretty sure), just different than my HiFimeDIY Sabre U2 and Bifrost.  Variety is the spice of life :k701smile:

post #6010 of 9507
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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post
 

 

In my comparison of the Q701 with bass port mod and high end headphones (http://www.head-fi.org/t/582276/q701-appreciation-thread/5970#post_10359232) I never once felt the bass to be loose or flabby. Also, some of the other headphones still seemed to have more bass than the modded Q701.

 

The only problem I can envisage is where you've already rolled DAC and amp to warm up the stock Q701. Then some caution might be justified.

 

+1

 

Hello again to all. This 3D printer stuff is taking all my time. Don't even have time to check head-fi a lot. I needed to trim down the threads. This one is the number one priority. :)

post #6011 of 9507
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Originally Posted by johanchandy View Post
 

I got some nice monoprice cables and the usb cable is the ADL USB formula 2 and did some listening yesterday and the Modi/Vali combo is definitely good. Very smooth and detailed. The soundstage wasn't as big as I wanted it to be and I'm guessing that's the Modi's fault but all in all its an excellent combo for the price, I like it better than the Aune T1 for the Q701's.

 

Microphonics in the Vali is very noticeable, but is only there when I first turn it on and when I remove the headphone plug and plug it in again. It doesn't bother me though.

 

The high noise floor is noticeable with efficient headphones like my modded sr80i's(slight hiss) but it sounds excellent when the music starts playing. There is no hiss with the power hungry q701.

 

One thing to note is the unmodded q701 sounds much better than the modded q701 with this combo. I first listened to the combo with my modded q701's and it was a tad too harsh. I un-modded them and they sound waay better, clearer and smoother. This is my personal opinion though based on what I heard, yours may differ depending on your preferences.

 

These are still initial impressions and I'm hoping for the sound to get better after the equipment break in (my q701's are relatively new as well).

 

 

 

The portion I struck out needs to be updated.

 

The harshness I was hearing was because of the ADL cable I was using. Going back to the stock cable the modded q701's sound really good with the Modi/Vali combo!

 

The q701's with the ADL cable sounds brighter and harsher, the stock cable is more smooth. The difference between the cables can be heard very easily.

 

So much for the 90$ cable :(. I'm hoping when the Q701 burns in a bit more it'll get smoother.

 

And as others have mentioned here, I find the modded q701 reacts to amps differently than the stock q701. The Modded q701's bass was a bit loose with the Aune T1 but perfect with the Vali.

 

A few extra notes:  I was watching the new "Cosmos" and Neil's voice sounded a bit nasal through the Q701's. Through my modded SR80i's(Which pair extremely well with Modi/Vali) his voices sounds very natural and real. The q701's rendered everything else marvelously but the artificial nasality in his voice was distracting(Its as if he was talking with his nose closed).


Edited by johanchandy - 3/18/14 at 2:40pm
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Some things that I have noticed in using the Q701 that other users should keep in mind. These recommendations may sound like they can apply to other headphones and they, in fact, do. Still, it is a good idea to double check these two things:

 

1. Headphone Placement

 

I cannot stress this enough, most especially for the Q701 which seems to very picky in this regard. I have even seen photos of some users here with the cups clearly laying forward on their cheeks. There can be a drop--at least from my own frequency generator estimates--of almost 5-10 dB in the upper treble to the point of making the Q701 sound veiled, stiff and "boring." I think that many of the complaints of these headphones being considered boring may stem to this very problem.

 

2. WASAPI/ASIO instead of DirectSound

 

Some audio devices may not have problems with this. But from my experience, most devices will exhibit a grain and digital sense of confusion if used with the default DirectSound output. In foobar2000, this is a very easy fix. Just download the WASAPI plugin for it and enable it or if your connected source device supports it, use ASIO. Some noticeable improvements include the removal of static confusion with cymbals and restoration of their natural cut and clarity (this is also apparent with many female vocals and electric guitar distortion); the warmth and dynamic range of the track coming through to the listener; retaining the full depth of the soundstage in the track, including the subtle cues like venue reverb, echo, and delay being unmasked by distortion.


Edited by Hifihedgehog - 3/19/14 at 1:13am
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Hi all,

 

I have been considering picking up a portable DAC/Amp combo to use with my Q701's for listening to music at work.  Right now I'm using some cheaper cans direct out of my work-provided Dell laptop.  Needless to say, there's plenty of room for improvement.

 

I was thinking of something small and discrete like the Audioquest Dragonfly or the FiiO E17.  But I was also thinking about throwing caution to the wind and just grabbing a Vali/Modi stack or something like that.  I'd prefer small and discrete unless there's a big difference, as I don't have a private office and so can't lock them up at night.

 

Any thoughts on whether the Dragonfly pairs well with the Q701?  It's pretty cheap these days and older reviews on here seemed to really like it, even at $250.  For $99 (or $149 for the new one), it seems like a no-brainer.  Assuming it works well with these cans.

 

TIA!

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Other portable desktop amps that you can consider are the DACport/LX, Audioengine D3, and the HRT Musicstreamer II. I have the LX it sounds pretty good, no added colorations I could tell.
Edited by Za Warudo - 3/19/14 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I have been considering picking up a portable DAC/Amp combo to use with my Q701's for listening to music at work.  Right now I'm using some cheaper cans direct out of my work-provided Dell laptop.  Needless to say, there's plenty of room for improvement.

 

I was thinking of something small and discrete like the Audioquest Dragonfly or the FiiO E17.  But I was also thinking about throwing caution to the wind and just grabbing a Vali/Modi stack or something like that.  I'd prefer small and discrete unless there's a big difference, as I don't have a private office and so can't lock them up at night.

 

Any thoughts on whether the Dragonfly pairs well with the Q701?  It's pretty cheap these days and older reviews on here seemed to really like it, even at $250.  For $99 (or $149 for the new one), it seems like a no-brainer.  Assuming it works well with these cans.

 

TIA!


Another option you can have in mind is an O2/ODAC combo system which is also very highly touted.

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