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post #5881 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post

Has anyone compared the O2 vs the Vali or M-Stage in driving the Q701. I'm still not sure which one I want to get. I'm also hoping the winner will pair well the HE-400 and X1.

 

I think the Matrix is a really good all around amplifier. Specifically for the Q701, I think the Schiit Vali really takes the cake, SQ wise. 

post #5882 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

I think the Matrix is a really good all around amplifier. Specifically for the Q701, I think the Schiit Vali really takes the cake, SQ wise. 

I'm assuming you have both the Matrix and the Vali, in what ways is the Vali superior with the Q701's?

 

I'm curious to hear your impressions as the Vali looks absolutely gorgeous, I'm hoping it sounds as good as it looks!

post #5883 of 9507
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Thank you.  How can you tell that the reviewer preferred the 2011 K701?  I do not see a summary review. Did you compare the charts?



I can't speak for the reviewer, but under the Reviewer's Opinion chart, there are quite a few things that he/she found better on the K701's.
Transparency, Dynamics, Treble Texture, and Bass Texture. Might be true, who knows, I have yet to read reviews on Q701 vs K701.

Here are the opinion charts from http://en.goldenears.net/4138 (K701, top chart) and http://en.goldenears.net/29184 (Q701, bottom chart):

 

ec7ee448da98bf09146e72531eef3b4a.PNG  K7017f2df37ff425f0284a9ff7c9f9737b01.PNGQ701

 

I like the middle scores for treble and bass relative to midrange for the Q701.  It seems that the reviewer found that the Q701 has perfect tonal balance!

post #5884 of 9507
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Originally Posted by MarcoGV View Post
 

Here are the opinion charts from http://en.goldenears.net/4138 (K701, top chart) and http://en.goldenears.net/29184 (Q701, bottom chart):

 

ec7ee448da98bf09146e72531eef3b4a.PNG  K7017f2df37ff425f0284a9ff7c9f9737b01.PNGQ701

 

I like the middle scores for treble and bass relative to midrange for the Q701.  It seems that the reviewer found that the Q701 has perfect tonal balance!

Did the author charted the K712 or the Annies?

or perhaps a separate chart for the bassport modded Q701/Anni padded Q701?

 

The chart illustrated exactly what I think the two headphones differ.

post #5885 of 9507
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Did the author charted the K712 or the Annies?

or perhaps a separate chart for the bassport modded Q701/Anni padded Q701?

 

The chart illustrated exactly what I think the two headphones differ.

k702: http://en.goldenears.net/8281

post #5886 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

I think the Matrix is a really good all around amplifier. Specifically for the Q701, I think the Schiit Vali really takes the cake, SQ wise. 

I'm assuming you have both the Matrix and the Vali, in what ways is the Vali superior with the Q701's?

 

I'm curious to hear your impressions as the Vali looks absolutely gorgeous, I'm hoping it sounds as good as it looks!

 

Yup got them both, love them both. They definitely perform very well for their price. 

 

The Matrix is really a great amplifier. It works well with any headphone and sounds very smooth. The Vali can be picky about the headphones, but with the headphones it works with, it really hits a sweet spot. Notably with the Q701, it adds a small "bloom" to the bass, smooths out the treble, sounds a bit clearer, more detailed, and really hits a great timbre with the midrange. These two really are a great match. 

 

Switching back to the M-stage it can seem a little cold in comparison (note, I said a little, not completely). If you want sterile, you should look at the O2. 

post #5887 of 9507
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Originally Posted by MarcoGV View Post
 

 

I like the middle scores for treble and bass relative to midrange for the Q701.  It seems that the reviewer found that the Q701 has perfect tonal balance!

Except I don't agree the Q701 stock has perfect amount of bass - it's moderately but undeniably bass light. For me the mod makes it more balanced.

post #5888 of 9507

If AKG put the sticker to block the port in the Q701s, why did they go to the trouble of putting the foam under the center grill? It would seem that originally the idea was to have the vent open then put the foam under the grill but what use is that foam if the port is blocked? There is no other channel for sound to pass through under there correct?

Why does the K701 not have that foam and still have the bass port blocked? What's the idea behind that, just dust protection?

post #5889 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Yup got them both, love them both. They definitely perform very well for their price. 

 

The Matrix is really a great amplifier. It works well with any headphone and sounds very smooth. The Vali can be picky about the headphones, but with the headphones it works with, it really hits a sweet spot. Notably with the Q701, it adds a small "bloom" to the bass, smooths out the treble, sounds a bit clearer, more detailed, and really hits a great timbre with the midrange. These two really are a great match. 

 

Switching back to the M-stage it can seem a little cold in comparison (note, I said a little, not completely). If you want sterile, you should look at the O2. 

Does your M-Stage use the stock OP amp or some other one?

 

edit: Since you've owned the HE-400 before do you think the Vali or M-Stage pairs better with it?  Also is the Vali better than the Little Dot I+?


Edited by Za Warudo - 3/5/14 at 4:30pm
post #5890 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Yup got them both, love them both. They definitely perform very well for their price. 

 

The Matrix is really a great amplifier. It works well with any headphone and sounds very smooth. The Vali can be picky about the headphones, but with the headphones it works with, it really hits a sweet spot. Notably with the Q701, it adds a small "bloom" to the bass, smooths out the treble, sounds a bit clearer, more detailed, and really hits a great timbre with the midrange. These two really are a great match. 

 

Switching back to the M-stage it can seem a little cold in comparison (note, I said a little, not completely). If you want sterile, you should look at the O2. 

Does your M-Stage use the stock OP amp or some other one?

 

edit: Since you've owned the HE-400 before do you think the Vali or M-Stage pairs better with it?  Also is the Vali better than the Little Dot I+?

 

 

I currently have a LM4562 in it. 

 

Oh man, you're stretching my memory. I'm not sure on the HE-400. TBH, I didn't like the headphone all that much, and I'm trying to decide which amp would hide the treble more. 

 

The Vali is meant for higher impedance headphones, where the little dot targeted really low impedance headphones. I liked the little dot a lot, but I think the Vali is far more transparent. 

post #5891 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

 

I currently have a LM4562 in it. 

 

Oh man, you're stretching my memory. I'm not sure on the HE-400. TBH, I didn't like the headphone all that much, and I'm trying to decide which amp would hide the treble more. 

 

The Vali is meant for higher impedance headphones, where the little dot targeted really low impedance headphones. I liked the little dot a lot, but I think the Vali is far more transparent. 

The Vali only has a 6.5ohm output impedance and outputs the most power at 32ohm, whereas the M-Stage is 5 ohm.  Seem to me like both are designed for low impedance cans.  Why do you feel that it's for higher impedance cans?

 

The treble is not really a problem for my He-400 after modding the pads and a bit of EQ, that recessed upper mid range is a different story though.

post #5892 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

 

I currently have a LM4562 in it. 

 

Oh man, you're stretching my memory. I'm not sure on the HE-400. TBH, I didn't like the headphone all that much, and I'm trying to decide which amp would hide the treble more. 

 

The Vali is meant for higher impedance headphones, where the little dot targeted really low impedance headphones. I liked the little dot a lot, but I think the Vali is far more transparent. 

The Vali only has a 6.5ohm output impedance and outputs the most power at 32ohm, whereas the M-Stage is 5 ohm.  Seem to me like both are designed for low impedance cans.  Why do you feel that it's for higher impedance cans?

 

The treble is not really a problem for my He-400 after modding the pads and a bit of EQ, that recessed upper mid range is a different story though.

 

It's not so much just the impedance. The Little Dot's noise floor was almost non existant, whereas the schiit has a bit of a noise floor. So for lower impedance, high sensitivity headphones, you're going to hear a lot more out of the schiit. I don't think you'd have that issue with the HE-400, but I know a few people in the Schiit Vali thread have mentioned the combo, so I'd read over there. 

post #5893 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

It's not so much just the impedance. The Little Dot's noise floor was almost non existant, whereas the schiit has a bit of a noise floor. So for lower impedance, high sensitivity headphones, you're going to hear a lot more out of the schiit. I don't think you'd have that issue with the HE-400, but I know a few people in the Schiit Vali thread have mentioned the combo, so I'd read over there. 

I see.  My most efficient/lowest impedance HP is the X1.  I'll have to ask around on the X1 thread to see if anyone have tried it with the Vali.  Anyway thanks a lot for your advice!

post #5894 of 9507
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

Yup got them both, love them both. They definitely perform very well for their price. 

 

The Matrix is really a great amplifier. It works well with any headphone and sounds very smooth. The Vali can be picky about the headphones, but with the headphones it works with, it really hits a sweet spot. Notably with the Q701, it adds a small "bloom" to the bass, smooths out the treble, sounds a bit clearer, more detailed, and really hits a great timbre with the midrange. These two really are a great match. 

 

Switching back to the M-stage it can seem a little cold in comparison (note, I said a little, not completely). If you want sterile, you should look at the O2. 

Excellent! This is exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm going to put in an order for a Modi+Vali.

 

Thank you for making this decision a whole lot easier.

 

Edit: Reading your previous comments it seems that the Vali works really well with the UNMODDED Q701. Have you tried it with the MODDED one? My concern is because I liked my Aune T1 with the stock Q701 but didn't after I modded it (the bass wasn't as tight as I wanted it to be, I wonder if anyone else with an Aune T1 shares my impressions). I actually like the eq'ed sound from my laptop(Asus G750), as it sounds very similar to the Aune T1(with a small eq) but the bass is tightened up although it is not as refined as I would like it to be. I could always undo the mod so its not that important but I would like to know how it is with the modded one. 

 

Apparently the Vali is good with the modded q701 according to tdockweiler's review of the Vali hear on Head fi :)

 

Edit: I ordered a Modi+Vali!!!


Edited by johanchandy - 3/6/14 at 11:48am
post #5895 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post

The Vali only has a 6.5ohm output impedance and outputs the most power at 32ohm, whereas the M-Stage is 5 ohm.  Seem to me like both are designed for low impedance cans.  Why do you feel that it's for higher impedance cans?

The treble is not really a problem for my He-400 after modding the pads and a bit of EQ, that recessed upper mid range is a different story though.

I've used the Matrix M Stage with low impedance, high efficiency cans and high impedance cans.
The Matrix will drive almost anything.
It outputs a lot of current and a lot of voltage.
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