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post #5176 of 7619

See, with the Chinese Q701, even at the furthest extension, the bottom of the earpads are actually on my ear because they no longer extend low enough! I actually have to struggle with it for a bit, and continually pull it down with a good amount of force to get it to "set" in place. The only problem is, I'm afraid the rubber bands or plastic arms may snap at some point, due to being outstretched and overextended. But what else is one to do when the Q701 is part supra-aural for big heads? 

 

Checked my foobar last night when I'd had enough of the comfort and I had about half an hour clocked in before my head couldn't take it. Headband isn't as bad as I remember, and I think is a minor improvement over the Austrian version. BUT, the way it clamps is just awful now. My head was throbbing a good 10-15 minutes after I took them off. It puts a very high amount of pressure at the top part of the earpad above your ear. Is this a deal breaker for me? Yup. They're going back.

post #5177 of 7619

Love the sound of the Q701, but so disappointed with the comfort.  They are by far the most uncomfortable set of headphones I've ever used.  I was thinking about picking up the Anniversary memory foam pads to replace these with.  In comparison, I also purchased the Fidelio X1's, which I received this morning.. and they are so very comfy.  I'm hoping that the Anniversary pads would make them just as. 

post #5178 of 7619
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Originally Posted by atoff View Post
 

Love the sound of the Q701, but so disappointed with the comfort.  They are by far the most uncomfortable set of headphones I've ever used.  I was thinking about picking up the Anniversary memory foam pads to replace these with.  In comparison, I also purchased the Fidelio X1's, which I received this morning.. and they are so very comfy.  I'm hoping that the Anniversary pads would make them just as. 

 

I had no problem with the comfort of the Q701 (apart from the bumps, which became much better after I exercised them). If your problem with the comfort is the bumps as well, try exercising them, just push them with your fingers over and over again until they become soft.

post #5179 of 7619
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

I had no problem with the comfort of the Q701 (apart from the bumps, which became much better after I exercised them). If your problem with the comfort is the bumps as well, try exercising them, just push them with your fingers over and over again until they become soft.

This never help me at all.  I ended up cutting off the bumps and glued piece of cushioning felt to the underside.  

post #5180 of 7619
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

This never help me at all.  I ended up cutting off the bumps and glued piece of cushioning felt to the underside.  

 

It would probably be more comfortable with your solution here, I just don't feel like cutting off the bumps as I fear that could potentially make them look untidy. I tried tying up a sock on the headband without cutting the bumps, but it made them too thick I can't even wear them properly anymore and removed them.

post #5181 of 7619
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

I had no problem with the comfort of the Q701 (apart from the bumps, which became much better after I exercised them). If your problem with the comfort is the bumps as well, try exercising them, just push them with your fingers over and over again until they become soft.

 

No, my problem is that I'm really thin, and don't have much natural padding on my cheekbones.  The padding on the Q701's are rock hard to me, and they squeeze my cheeks tightly.  I've tried sitting them on a subwoofer for half a day to try to open them up a bit, but no luck.  I have no problem with the bumps... my head's small, they're not a tight fit.  The Fidelio X1's are very comfortable to me though.  Perfect cup size, perfect headband size, nice padding.  The Q701's seem very large, the headband doesn't rest easily on my head... if it weren't for the clamping of the cups, they'd just fall straight down past my ears.  

post #5182 of 7619

The comfort issue that i have with Q701 is stiff ear pads It feels like a hard plastic pressing on my face.

post #5183 of 7619

I have had my Q701 for around 9 months, although the bass-mod greatly improved their performance for me, I still find that the highs can intrude on the music. Overall I think they were a cynical exercise in re-branding, at a $50 premium over the K (when released) they should have offered more than a bit of green.

It was a perfect opportunity to fit more comfortable earpads with better foam and less itchy velour (like HD650), replace the headband bumps with continuous padding (like Momentum) and optimise the bass port (and maybe damp the HF peaks).

They chose instead green and a shiny "Q" and nothing else for the extra money.

Funny thing is they usually have to be sold for less than the K, which is a good thing for us.

post #5184 of 7619

The PR says my black Austrian Q701 has memory foam pads.  Although, the box only says, "unique 3D cut ear pads"  They are among the most comfortable I've ever felt, but then so were the original K701's.  Comparing the two right now, the Q701's are thicker and seem a bit stiffer than the original K701's.  That may just be the difference in age/use, however.  Regardless, they are both extremely comfortable, IMHO.

 

Listening back to my early serial number K701 (#4788), the K701 is clearer and more refined, but that may just be break-in differences.  Suffice to say, I don't think there is any difference in bass.  (Part of this listening lately is because my Torpedo amp is such a great compliment to the K701/Q701.  I never really noticed that the bass was thin or lean with either one. ;) )

 

1. They did improve the band, because there is no bump in the center anymore. One might question whether two slightly offset bumps are just as bad or worse than a single center bump, but they still made the change over the K701.

 

2. The most obvious change is the plug-in cable.  That was never on the K701.

 

In sum, I think the biggest question is what difference Q701 from K702 or K712?  I think none.  Check that - K702 has a smooth band.  Geez, it's hard to keep up with all of this!  Maybe with the Annie, they added the foam memory pads and the bass increase - then went straight to the K712, which seems to be the same as the Annie with minor coloration differences.

 

JMHO ... I don't have a K712 yet, but I think I will soon.  I still think it's a world-class headphone in any variation. ;) 

post #5185 of 7619

I recently received my pair of beyers dt880, and having just gotten my q701 a few weeks earlier (austrian set, apparently), I was rather surprised overall.

 

Comparing the comfort between the two, I've got to say that the Beyer wins hands down when both are stock.

 

However, I'd already cut off the bumps on the headband of the q701 (with great trepidation), and that tipped the favor back towards the akgs in terms of comfort. The bumps were imo, a bad idea. Much more comfortable in terms of clamping strength. I could wear the modded q701 for hours, with only my ears getting a little warm, while I could only wear the beyers for about half an hour before discomfort around the ears set in (the dt880s can press down pretty hard, and I'm trying to stretch them out now). Deciding to cut off the bumps was a game changer in comfort for me at least.

 

With regards to the bassport mod - this was something I never thought I'd say this about the q701 ; after the mod, I kinda felt that the bass got a little too overpowering on certain songs, then again, I was never much of a basshead. That said, I won't be reversing the mod, as without it, the bass presence is rather lacking. Now I can actually feel the "thump".

 

The q701 is definitely a rather interesting headphone to mess around with. :D

post #5186 of 7619

I think it would be fun to see what's inside the bumps on the Austrian version vs the Chinese version.

 

I'm still convinced the Chinese are using tapioca pudding. 

post #5187 of 7619
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

Good luck with your move!  Always a PITA, so I hope it goes smoothly.

Hope you can glean something useful from it.  I know that the choice of music is not everyone's cup of tea, but I figured it was best to choose songs I know and love.  Of course, that could have been any of hundreds, so I also tried to pick songs that have excellent production and exhibit certain characteristics.  No point in choosing lovable lo-fi schiit like The Bevis Frond, as the Qs are pretty ruthless with lo-fi recordings.

Anyway, happy moving day (hope it's an upgrade!), and thanks for being interested in my missive.

Thank you! It was tiring but smooth. Now the deal is to inbox everything again. First thing I unboxed was... the Q701! Then the 5.1. I might read the whole review tomorrow, today I need to sleep a little. smily_headphones1.gif
post #5188 of 7619
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Originally Posted by tomb View Post
 

The PR says my black Austrian Q701 has memory foam pads.  Although, the box only says, "unique 3D cut ear pads"  They are among the most comfortable I've ever felt, but then so were the original K701's.  Comparing the two right now, the Q701's are thicker and seem a bit stiffer than the original K701's.  That may just be the difference in age/use, however.  Regardless, they are both extremely comfortable, IMHO.

 

Listening back to my early serial number K701 (#4788), the K701 is clearer and more refined, but that may just be break-in differences.  Suffice to say, I don't think there is any difference in bass.  (Part of this listening lately is because my Torpedo amp is such a great compliment to the K701/Q701.  I never really noticed that the bass was thin or lean with either one. ;) )

 

1. They did improve the band, because there is no bump in the center anymore. One might question whether two slightly offset bumps are just as bad or worse than a single center bump, but they still made the change over the K701.

 

2. The most obvious change is the plug-in cable.  That was never on the K701.

 

In sum, I think the biggest question is what difference Q701 from K702 or K712?  I think none.  Check that - K702 has a smooth band.  Geez, it's hard to keep up with all of this!  Maybe with the Annie, they added the foam memory pads and the bass increase - then went straight to the K712, which seems to be the same as the Annie with minor coloration differences.

 

JMHO ... I don't have a K712 yet, but I think I will soon.  I still think it's a world-class headphone in any variation. ;) 

My early K701 were very different to my current ones. Soundstage a lot wider and stretched. The sound was a lot thinner with less bass. Of course we deal with subtlety's in describing sound differences in this hobby but for me me there was nothing subtle about them in this case. I had to do some serious EQ to sort out my older 701's. Although I've welcomed the warmer more focused sound we have now, I do miss the wider soundstage on occasion for ambient music for e.g. 

 

Another thing to bare in mind is the change in sound as pads mold to your head over time.

 

I've found them a little uncomfortable to begin with but after a while they are fine. Not the most comfortable out there but not the worst either.      

post #5189 of 7619

Is anyone able to make a side by side comparison between two Q701s that made from different places?

Some people said country of origin does not matter while some disagree.

From the last few posts, it seems that the Q701s were even made of different materials at different places and at different time...


Edited by duyu - 1/5/14 at 1:36am
post #5190 of 7619

are there very many people here rocking their Q701 just stock, without any modding at all.

 

I am.

 

I find them super comfy, and while the bass is lacking some, I rather have that than too much bass......not a basshead at all.

 

Mine are the Austria phones, and I am loving them just as they are.

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