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post #5056 of 9490
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

It's not always about how much the amp/DAC costs, it's about the power and the quality. My vintage Pioneer SX-750 only cost me $40 plus about $15 of De-Oxit to clean/tune it up a bit. 

 

My amp plus my ODAC still only cost me about $150-160 all said and done. Another $240 for the Q701, and it's a killer (somewhat) low cost setup. The O2/ODAC is a good inexpensive setup, so is the Schiit Modi/Magni or Modi/Vali. I thought the E17 was a killer piece of equipment, up until I tried better stuff. I'd also include the E17/E09K as a good budget setup, but it's easy to beat the DAC of the E17 at the price. 

+1.  I made an offer for an old jolida tube speaker amp.  $150.  It will drive both my Q701 and HE500 nicely.  Look around and you will find a lot of good bargain.  Don't really have to stick with HP specific equipments.

post #5057 of 9490
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

I tried a little but got kind of mixed feeling.  Maybe, cuz I didn't spend the time to do it 100% properly like you did. However, it did change the imaging on the HE500 quite a bit.  It was very surprising to find out how much angled pads make a difference.

So you mean the imaging was changed, in a better way or just being different? I'm trying to ask if it made the imaging better? I have a the HD500 and love its sound, but compared with my B&W805s speakers and HD800, I feel it lacks accurate imaging, especially center stage is not clear.

post #5058 of 9490
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

+1.  I made an offer for an old jolida tube speaker amp.  $150.  It will drive both my Q701 and HE500 nicely.  Look around and you will find a lot of good bargain.  Don't really have to stick with HP specific equipments.

I thought speaker amps are generally noisier?

post #5059 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Lucaswonder View Post
 

I thought speaker amps are generally noisier?

It depends on how much power the amp is putting out.  Sticking with something 50wpc and under, you should be alright.

I use the Emotiva Mini-X (50wpc) to drive my HE500 and Q701, no noise issue at all though it's not a good pairing for the Q701.

post #5060 of 9490
Hi guys, i have a silly question,and I'm currently waiting for my Q's to deliver.do i have to plug my hp's through amp or just iPod when burn in?
post #5061 of 9490
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Originally Posted by lsamod View Post

Hi guys, i have a silly question,and I'm currently waiting for my Q's to deliver.do i have to plug my hp's through amp or just iPod when burn in?

 

Any source will do for burn-in.
 

post #5062 of 9490
ThurstonX, I know I told you I was gonna get the HE-500 but I realized the current drop off the HD700 and couldn't resist to por the trigger on them for that price.

I found myself preferring bright headphones and I worried that the HE-500, even though it's probably one of the best headphones better priced (not considering the Q's into the sun wink.gif ), would be really dark for my tastes.

I will report later of I regret this movement and come back to the quest for the Hifiman's, or if perhaps the HD700 is an awesome headphone for the money!
post #5063 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post

ThurstonX, I know I told you I was gonna get the HE-500 but I realized the current drop off the HD700 and couldn't resist to por the trigger on them for that price.

I found myself preferring bright headphones and I worried that the HE-500, even though it's probably one of the best headphones better priced (not considering the Q's into the sun wink.gif ), would be really dark for my tastes.

I will report later of I regret this movement and come back to the quest for the Hifiman's, or if perhaps the HD700 is an awesome headphone for the money!

 

Would you mind reporting back on how does the Q701 stack up against the HD700? Cheers

post #5064 of 9490
^ I will post every single of my impressions, even though I'm not very good with it. And I promise to be honest. If I'm disappointed, you guys will be the first to know. smily_headphones1.gif
post #5065 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post

ThurstonX, I know I told you I was gonna get the HE-500 but I realized the current drop off the HD700 and couldn't resist to por the trigger on them for that price.

I found myself preferring bright headphones and I worried that the HE-500, even though it's probably one of the best headphones better priced (not considering the Q's into the sun wink.gif ), would be really dark for my tastes.

I will report later of I regret this movement and come back to the quest for the Hifiman's, or if perhaps the HD700 is an awesome headphone for the money!

 

Dude.  DUDE.  I feel so... let down.... ;)

 

Your choice is perfectly understandable, though I'd be surprised if you found the HE-500s "dark."  Not as bright as the HD 700s, sure, I could see that, based on what I've read about those Senns.  I find the HE-500s quite lively, and plenty bright for me, esp. with the Q701 pads on them :D  I was a bit put off by the descriptions and reviews of the HD 700s, and, already owning the Q701s, I opted for the quite different HD 650s.  I now have all my HP bases covered :smile:  I doubt I'll be modding the Senns.  Seems like I should keep something stock, and those would be the ones I'd sell on, if I had to (hope not!).

 

I'm curious to read your impressions.  Did you ever get to listen to the HE-500s?  I gather not.  I also imagine the HD 700s may be easier to drive well than the HE-500s.  Can't recall what amps you have.

 

In the end, as you know, the most important thing is how the HD 700s sound to YOU.  I hope you dig 'em :smile:

post #5066 of 9490
^ Hehehe, I just couldn't resist the temptation. I think it was the smart movement economically speaking right now. If I regret it I can either send them back or sell them without losing money on the trade.

I didn't listen to the HE-500 yet. In fact, I'm currently in Dallas and I was going to try to audition them at some local audio store on Monday. No worries, HE-500 will eventually be in my collection. It just wasn't the timing. smily_headphones1.gif

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I needed to add I've been always in love with the HD700. Just thought they were not worth it at $1000. I think they will be a better choice for me than the HD650, which is supposed to be slightly on the warm side as well. It's probably just an small upgrade to the HD650, but I feel they will suit me better.
Edited by Ashade - 12/26/13 at 9:15am
post #5067 of 9490
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post

^ Hehehe, I just couldn't resist the temptation. I think it was the smart movement economically speaking right now. If I regret it I can either send them back or sell them without losing money on the trade.

I didn't listen to the HE-500 yet. In fact, I'm currently in Dallas and I was going to try to audition them at some local audio store on Monday. No worries, HE-500 will eventually be in my collection. It just wasn't the timing. smily_headphones1.gif

EDIT:

I needed to add I've been always in love with the HD700. Just thought they were not worth it at $1000. I think they will be a better choice for me than the HD650, which is supposed to be slightly on the warm side as well. It's probably just an small upgrade to the HD650, but I feel they will suit me better.

 

Agreed on the HD 650s.  They're pretty laid back when driven by the C5, as compared to the HE-500s.  Not really the right amp for them, but it's all I've had.  Today - FINALLY - I will get to hear both on my newly repaired Lyr.  Owned it for 10 weeks now, three of which it was not in my possession.  Can you say, ANNOYED.  Hustle up, FedEx!  ;)

Oh yeah, and the Q701s.  Can't forget them! :k701smile: 

 

How much did you pay for the HD 700s, if you don't mind my asking, and are they new or used?


Edited by ThurstonX - 12/26/13 at 9:21am
post #5068 of 9490
I've been trying to get them used but there was no way to find them reasonably priced. It was possible to get them for $550 through Razordog but I didn't get the deal. After very much hesitation I decided to pay the $650 of Amazon, a little bit more than I wanted to pay but everything indicates the price will go up again after the New Year's Eve.

I decided I could return them if I don't like them and that I probably won't be able to get them cheaper so... let's give them a try!
post #5069 of 9490

Like the clean sound

post #5070 of 9490
I got my ass to Dallas downtown to try to audition some headphones today without many expectation... To my surprise, I found that Audio Concepts had a really nice selection to listen to. They were really nice and let me listen the time I needed (not like my girlfriend that was rushing me to leave the store). Just some fast impressions in the short audition I did:
- Sennheiser Momentum: These babies have bassssss. They are pretty good for the price and considering they are closed backs. The caps are smaaaaall! Even though the caps are tiny, they are not very uncomfortable. It's weird, your ears sit completely inside but I wouldn't cask them completely over ear.
- PSB M4U 1 & 2: These things are really sweet. They sound superb. I think I like the 2 slightly better but the 1 are more comfortable. Didn't spend much time with them because they are huge and I don't consider them portable. I think there's better option with that size.
- NAD VISO HP50: Pure cream! They are slightly uncomfortable because your ears touch the driver inside, BUT they sound soooo sweet. Definitely one off the best headphones I've listened to under $400 (meaning close back of course). Very detailed and very neutral. Similar to the PSB (here it comes to tastes) and definitely better than the momentum.

Now open backs:
- Beyer DT990: Very smooth sounding and comfortable. Not my style but I can understand why people might prefer them to other headphones.
- Sennheiser HD600 and HD650: Didn't audition them very much because I was more interested fur other stuff but all I can say is you cannot go wrong with either of them. They are really really good headphones and deserve all the pray they get.

The top notch:
- Beyer T1: I cannot say I didn't like them. It's like no wearing them and the sound is superb. You can tell they are clearly at another level, BUT:
- Sennheiser HD800: Guys... These are by far the most impressive headphones I've listened to in my whole live. The soundstage, the imaging, the detail and microdetail, the build quality, the comfort... this is a master piece... Are they better than the Q701 or modded Q701? INDEED! Are they worth the price? I don't know... This will come down to a personal decision. For me? I'm not gonna stop until I get a pair. Everything said, I will wait to get them used or with a better deal, but I'm more than willing to pay $1000-1200 for them.

As a side note, I just re-realized how much of a deal the Q's are for $230-240. They are for sure the best bang for the back out there right now, so keep enjoying them as much as you can because it's difficult to find something better.

I know didn't go much in detail with none of them but I can answer any specific question anybody may have. Just wanted to give a short picture of my inversions. My main purpose was to listen to HD800, NAD VISO HP50 and HE500 (weren't there) and I can say I'm more than satisfy with what I heard.

Just for you to know, my ears are really small, sui you can get an idea of what I was talking about.
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Edited by Ashade - 12/26/13 at 6:03pm
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