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post #5041 of 9507
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

Maybe its partly because of my amp, but the bass doesn't sound loose to me. It still sounds well controlled. I actually think the bass sounded artificial prior to the mod. It seemed over dampened and unnaturally tight before the mod. Not sure how else to describe it. Over dampened is probably the best and simplest way to put it.


 

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I agree on most of your points. I don't think the quality of the bass has decreased one bit. I think its just as solid as before, now it just has more impact and extends deeper. I don't hear any less air, but I do agree that the soundstage projects farther forward increasing depth. In my opinion it is a more accurate sound after the mod. Bass is meant to have depth and after the mod it definitely has more depth.


Sorry if I made my post a bit confusing, since I JUST woke up and the best time to listen to music and for everything to sound fast was during that time. 
I'm going to re-iterate what I just posted just so everyone's clear what I was trying to say.

-Bass feels less solid (solely my opinion and not true fact at all), probably because it's more pronounced and less rolled off compared to before. It's hard to explain. Sub bass is definitely more present in all its' glory.
-Mids are flat, I don't know if it was forwarded before. Although the a900x mids are completely flat so I think this I think the mids are accurate now.
-Trebles are tamed and flat, making guitars more enjoyable and makes this headphone an all-rounder now.

I'm going to keep this mod, when my O2+ODAC comes in from ordering from a local headfier. I'm hoping that 3 things will happen.
-The soundstage will be widened out to compensate for the loss
-Bass will be tightened compared to my E12
-I'm hearing on the forums that this stack gives an analytical sound and hoping that this will be the case.

post #5042 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post
 


 


Sorry if I made my post a bit confusing, since I JUST woke up and the best time to listen to music and for everything to sound fast was during that time. 
I'm going to re-iterate what I just posted just so everyone's clear what I was trying to say.

-Bass feels less solid (solely my opinion and not true fact at all), probably because it's more pronounced and less rolled off compared to before. It's hard to explain. Sub bass is definitely more present in all its' glory.
-Mids are flat, I don't know if it was forwarded before. Although the a900x mids are completely flat so I think this I think the mids are accurate now.
-Trebles are tamed and flat, making guitars more enjoyable and makes this headphone an all-rounder now.

I'm going to keep this mod, when my O2+ODAC comes in from ordering from a local headfier. I'm hoping that 3 things will happen.
-The soundstage will be widened out to compensate for the loss
-Bass will be tightened compared to my E12
-I'm hearing on the forums that this stack gives an analytical sound and hoping that this will be the case.

I can't speak for the O2, but the ODAC is great. I doubt you'll be disappointed. What are you using as a DAC now?

post #5043 of 9507
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

I can't speak for the O2, but the ODAC is great. I doubt you'll be disappointed. What are you using as a DAC now?

I'm currently using either the Sony Walkman or the E07K. Both are pretty warm sounding.
Well, compared to using my PC motherboard's DAC that is...

post #5044 of 9507

Is the bass mod, irreversible? im just curious that if its happen that i dont enjoy the outcome will it be back to stock sig just by taping it back?

post #5045 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Olanzky View Post
 

Is the bass mod, irreversible? im just curious that if its happen that i dont enjoy the outcome will it be back to stock sig just by taping it back?


If I wanted to, I would reverse the mod right now!

Having a straight tweezer and curved tweezer helps in putting back the sticker though.

post #5046 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post

I'm currently using either the Sony Walkman or the E07K. Both are pretty warm sounding.

Well, compared to using my PC motherboard's DAC that is...

Man! You are underpowering these things with the E07K, that's why the bass feels loose! Try a better amp. Even E17 or E18 would work better. O2 would give you all the "tightness" you want! biggrin.gif
post #5047 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post


Man! You are underpowering these things with the E07K, that's why the bass feels loose! Try a better amp. Even E17 or E18 would work better. O2 would give you all the "tightness" you want! biggrin.gif

Well users on the forum here said the Fiio E12 is a decent portable amp for these :redface: in which I use them and did say I do.

post #5048 of 9507
You should be able to notice a huge difference between the E12 and the E07K, power-wise. That being said, I can tell you I always felt the bass loose on the E07K. I A/B/C E07K, E18 and O2 and the only one providing loose vas was the former.

The DAC might be the difference as well. The amp only amplifies, but if it's the DAC providing the loose bass... you are only going to amplify that loose bass.

I've never tried the E12 though, so I can talk about it.
Edited by Ashade - 12/24/13 at 8:45am
post #5049 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post

You should be able to notice a huge difference between the E12 and the E07K, power-wise. That being said, I can tell you I always felt the bass loose on the E07K. I A/B/C E07K, E18 and O2 and the only one providing loose vas was the former.

Well in that case, I'm off to work and crossing my fingers that the O2 will arrive sometime within January :D

Thanks again all for introducing me to the bass port mod and a wonderful sound experience.

Happy Holidays :)

post #5050 of 9507

Ordered the Essence One locally but I had to import the q's from amazon so that will take a couple weeks, I'll be sure to post what I think here.

 

The only headphones I can compare with is $20 Philips and my onboard audio, should  be a step up I think:gs1000smile: 

post #5051 of 9507
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Originally Posted by RookieSound View Post

Ordered the Essence One locally but I had to import the q's from amazon so that will take a couple weeks, I'll be sure to post what I think here.

The only headphones I can compare with is $20 Philips and my onboard audio, should  be a step up I think:gs1000smile:  

You can try building your own O2 if that makes any difference in the price importation.
post #5052 of 9507
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post
 

I'm currently using either the Sony Walkman or the E07K. Both are pretty warm sounding.
Well, compared to using my PC motherboard's DAC that is...

The ODAC is a much better DAC than what is inside of the E07k. The ODAC was a huge step up from the E17. The whole sound improved a lot when I switched from the E17 to the ODAC. 

post #5053 of 9507
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

The ODAC is a much better DAC than what is inside of the E07k. The ODAC was a huge step up from the E17. The whole sound improved a lot when I switched from the E17 to the ODAC. 

I cannot but to agree with you here. These headphones are very revealing and you are going to listen every single flaw in your equipment. That's why people complaint about loose bass and other stuff. But it's not the headphone, it's the equipment!
post #5054 of 9507

no need for expensive amp for Q IMO if you want a solid/tight bass plug your Q into one of those speaker amp/receiver i plug mine with KENWOOD and YAMAHA and the sound stage is huge with those stereo amp/receiver.

post #5055 of 9507
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post
 

no need for expensive amp for Q IMO if you want a solid/tight bass plug your Q into one of those speaker amp/receiver i plug mine with KENWOOD and YAMAHA and the sound stage is huge with those stereo amp/receiver.

It's not always about how much the amp/DAC costs, it's about the power and the quality. My vintage Pioneer SX-750 only cost me $40 plus about $15 of De-Oxit to clean/tune it up a bit. 

 

My amp plus my ODAC still only cost me about $150-160 all said and done. Another $240 for the Q701, and it's a killer (somewhat) low cost setup. The O2/ODAC is a good inexpensive setup, so is the Schiit Modi/Magni or Modi/Vali. I thought the E17 was a killer piece of equipment, up until I tried better stuff. I'd also include the E17/E09K as a good budget setup, but it's easy to beat the DAC of the E17 at the price. 

 

There are a lot of variables with audio. Even switching from iTunes to MusicBee as my music player and using WASAPI improved audio quality by an appreciable margin. 


Edited by jasonb - 12/24/13 at 10:30am
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