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post #4786 of 7721
It won't be great, just ok. Needs at least 1-2 watts and up for better overall sound.
post #4787 of 7721
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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post

It won't be great, just ok. Needs at least 1-2 watts and up for better overall sound.

That was what I was guessing... Not a problem in the end because they are not really portable and at that point you already don't care about moving the O2 around I guess. I think I will have to get one of those at some point.

Thank you for the answer!
post #4788 of 7721
Your welcome. They are great headphones. I would look at the emotiva mini a-100 amp for them if you need something just to power them for a very good price.
post #4789 of 7721
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post


I had a question for you regarding the HE500: How difficult to drive are they actually? I mean, I suppose the O2 should be able to drive them just fine (or at least I hope so) but, what about something like an E17/E18? Would that be just horrible? How much power do you estimate they need?

 

Only about a BAZILLION WATTS!!!  

 

No, not really.  I'm not sure I'm the best person to answer that, as I haven't had them that long, and only bothered using them with the Lyr.  No worries there, of course.  I briefly tried my C5, but that was before the cans were modded and broken in.  Not very satisfying, but I'll try it again tomorrow (Sun.) at get back to you.  The only other options I have are my to A/V receivers, my iPod Classic, and the headphone jack on my M-Audio Revo 5.1.  I'll try to give a comparison between them, just for reference.  I'll leave it to you to determine what kind of power those things are outputting.

 

Gotta crash now :-)

 

Oh, you can always search this thread, Head-Fi, and the Net in general.  I know I settled on the Lyr after reading a few reviews of the HE-500 in audio mags and blogs.  It was about what I was willing to spend, wanted a tube or hybrid amp, was settled on the HE-500, and it seemed to be a good match.  I'm sure less expensive (won't say cheaper) amps will drive them just fine.  I came across a SS amp+DAC combo after I'd gotten the Lyr... the Audio-gd NFB-15.32 or NFB-11.32.  I know jerg - he of HE-500 modding fame - uses the 11.32; he's pretty demanding, I gather.  Both are less expensive than the Lyr.  I suppose if $300 fell in my lap with a note that said, You must use this to buy an amp!  I'd try the 11.32  ;-)

 

OK, really gotta crash now.

post #4790 of 7721
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

that a very wrong, out-dated and narrow look, China is not the same country anymore.  Their production/quality capability is top notch now but just like any other countries, there are factories/manufacturers that will put out inferiors/bad products for certain price points.

Exactly.  Associating production out of China as second rate, is ignorant and/or prejudice.

 

Back on topic-I have had a lot of headphones over the years including several $1000 plus (many very good headphones) and the only one I miss from my memory is the AKG K701- for acoustic music.

 

I am extremely content with my LCD 2 and Signature Pro, however there is a nagging aspect that is drawing me to purchase another K701, or Q701 if they will deliver the same acoustic magic as I remember the K701 did.

post #4791 of 7721
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Originally Posted by Ashade View Post


I had a question for you regarding the HE500: How difficult to drive are they actually? I mean, I suppose the O2 should be able to drive them just fine (or at least I hope so) but, what about something like an E17/E18? Would that be just horrible? How much power do you estimate they need?

I still run my HE500 from E17/E9K combo when I do bring HE500 to the office.  E17 on high gain, for portable, will be more than fine to enjoy your music.  Optimal?  of course not but won't be bad/horrible like some people like to make it out to be.  HE500 does benefit greatly from being fed plenty of pwr.  That's why speaker amps often mentioned with HE500, especially Emotiva Mini-X @ $169.  To my ears/opinion, this little amp compare well all the way up to amps starting at $800 or more.  Yes, I just spend $2500 on a WA22 and still think my previous statement is correct!;) 

 

 

I can hook up any HPs and have enough pwr to run even the HE-6.  I just need more HPs to do so.  :D


Edited by koiloco - 11/24/13 at 12:14am
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FWIW I've been in the hobby for a while and I have access to loads of gear and a stock K70x can stave off an HD800 purchase on it's own.. at least for a while.

 

Before the orthos debued, K701 was the epitome of definition and refinement in a headphone!

post #4793 of 7721
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post

I have just auditioned few cans (HD650, RS2i, DT880, DT990) in an attempt to find a complementary cans to accompany my Q701. Much to my surprise, I found myself HATED the HD650. To me it sounds much too laid back, and apart from it's thickness sound, I find the Q701 to be preferable in almost every single conceivable way.

I also find the RS2i to be 'not preferable'. All tests was done using the Magni/Modi stack.


So, what do you think? Which one would be better to accompany the Q701? DT880 or DT990? In my opinion the DT880 is more neutral, but then again so does Q701. I want something that's a bit different, thoughts?


Edit: The reason I hated the HD650 might be because I already modded the Q701. I have a distinct impression that if I haven't modded the Q701, I might crave for HD650. Not anymore I guess...

The Stax SRS-2170 are a great compliment.
They remind me of Q701s with a lot of the problems resolved:
less harsh
less grain, less mechanical sounding
a touch more bass
smoother treble
increased transparency

The HD650 are very hard to listen to after listening to Q701, the HD650 will tend to sound relatively dull: where did the treble go?

The DT880 is a very neutral phone for the money and in my opinion is another good compliment to the Qs.
Many folks, including me, prefer the DT880s with tubes.


Down the rabbit hole.........
post #4794 of 7721
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


The Stax SRS-2170 are a great compliment.
They remind me of Q701s with a lot of the problems resolved:
less harsh
less grain, less mechanical sounding
a touch more bass
smoother treble
increased transparency

The HD650 are very hard to listen to after listening to Q701, the HD650 will tend to sound relatively dull: where did the treble go?

The DT880 is a very neutral phone for the money and in my opinion is another good compliment to the Qs.
Many folks, including me, prefer the DT880s with tubes.


Down the rabbit hole.........

 

Frankly I'm trying to not getting tube amps... Apart from the hassle of rolling the tubes, the cost of it I imagined would be enormous >.>

 

The Beyers seems like a solid candidate for now, just have to make up my mind on which one to take, DT880 or DT990... I know the former is the balanced one, but the latter to my ears is more 'fun'

 

Might gonna have to try the HD600 as well, though after my disappointment while auditioned the HD650 I'm not sure I want to go through that again.

 

 

 

PS: This may sound weird, but after properly broke-in the Q701 + the mod, I kinda have that stockholm syndrome and missed that bright & analytical Q701, that's why I think the DT990 might cut it

 

 

Can't believe how helpful this community is on helping you to.........................................................empty your wallet :p

post #4795 of 7721
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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post

Your welcome. They are great headphones. I would look at the emotiva mini a-100 amp for them if you need something just to power them for a very good price.

how do you plug in the headphone on this amp there is no output for headphone?

post #4796 of 7721
You need a trs to banana plug adaptor. You can diy it or have one made. I didn't order from here but one place that is recommended is i believe Btg audio to get one.
post #4797 of 7721
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

Frankly I'm trying to not getting tube amps... Apart from the hassle of rolling the tubes, the cost of it I imagined would be enormous >.>

 

The Beyers seems like a solid candidate for now, just have to make up my mind on which one to take, DT880 or DT990... I know the former is the balanced one, but the latter to my ears is more 'fun'

 

Might gonna have to try the HD600 as well, though after my disappointment while auditioned the HD650 I'm not sure I want to go through that again.

 

 

 

PS: This may sound weird, but after properly broke-in the Q701 + the mod, I kinda have that stockholm syndrome and missed that bright & analytical Q701, that's why I think the DT990 might cut it

 

 

Can't believe how helpful this community is on helping you to.........................................................empty your wallet :p

 

Yeah, tubes can be daunting!

I have a La Figaro 336C.

The good news is that it only takes 2 tubes and they can be found for approx. $20 or $30 if you look carfully and cautiously.

So for $100 you can get 2 NOS input and 2 NOS output tubes and have 4 different combinations of sound.

 

The HD650, I hear ya!

For some bizarre reason I prefer the HD600 to the HD650.

I think the HD600 is definitely worth trying out.

 

The DT880 vs. the DT990,

I auditioned both and it almost came down to a coin toss, I think I could easily live with either one!

post #4798 of 7721

What do people think about the modded Q701 for classical? The bass is more linear after the mod so I'd think that would make it better for every genre, including classical. 

 

Any thoughts? I'm not a huge classical listener, but I'm alway trying to expand my musical tastes.

post #4799 of 7721
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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post

You need a trs to banana plug adaptor. You can diy it or have one made. I didn't order from here but one place that is recommended is i believe Btg audio to get one.

THANKS!but i think this AMP will blow the Q's or the DT's 600ohms driver.


Edited by i luvmusic 2 - 11/24/13 at 8:15am
post #4800 of 7721
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post
 

THANKS!but i think this AMP will blow the Q's driver.

Nah, you just have to be careful with the volume knob. Using an amp with more power than ever needed is actually safer than using an amp that's too weak. My vintage Pioneer can output way more power than ever needed, I just can't ever turn the volume knob past 9 o'clock. The benefit is that I have endless power on tap, knowing that I'll never clip the amp, and I'll have no chance of ever sending the headphone a dirty square wave. 

 

The concept should be the same anytime you build any kind of audio setup. In my car for example, my front speakers are on an amp that can push up to 300 watts RMS per side. Are the speakers rated to handle 300 watts all day long? Nope, but I have never blown a driver on this amp.  

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