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post #4441 of 9490
I started the same as you looking at what amp/ dac to get. At the end I decided to get a audiolsv qdac (which price increase soon) or the yulong d100 mk2 (replacement coming).

If u want yo spend more then go with yulong da8

With the qdac u can have the option to upgrade in the future.
post #4442 of 9490
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Originally Posted by zyxfhtf View Post
 

I just have a question that are there any amplifiers you will recommend for Q701?

from my personal experience i can recommend the beresford bushmaster, it definitely has more than enough punch to drive the q701 even at high volumes without distortion. it also helps in the low end, enough to not make me want to do the bass port mod. it is a combined dac/amp though, not sure if this is what you want.

 

also the schiit lyr seems to be a really good match for the q's, though i don't have it myself (yet).

 

if you want to read more, you can of course go through the Amping for AKG Q701 thread ;) 


Edited by ampair - 10/28/13 at 3:58am
post #4443 of 9490

For economical portable, I am fine with my Fiio E17 DAC/amp for $100.  On high gain, it's very decent.

If you are willing to spend more, maybe some tube amps will warm up the Q701 nicely.  Look into the Schiit amps or maybe sunrise or amber DIY.   What I've found so far is that the Q701 does scale up very nicely with better amps.  Your pocket is the limit in this case. 

post #4444 of 9490
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Originally Posted by zyxfhtf View Post
 

I just have a question that are there any amplifiers you will recommend for Q701?

 

You don't mention your budget, which would help people help you.

 

I use the JDS Labs C5 as a portable.  Very neutral; drives the Q701 no problem.  Not cheap at ~$190, but IMO well worth it.  Apparently they're coming out with the C5D (C5 + as yet unknown DAC incorporated; not sure about the size, but reportedly not much bigger than the C5, which is plenty small).  That should be fun :smile:

 

The Lyr will drive most things, and it's effortless power into the Q701.  Volume knob barely gets past 9 o'clock.  Tubes won't change the sound signature of the Qs, but can influence the presentation.  Recordings that sound a bit forward, esp. around that 2 KHz vocal range, or have harsh, ringy guitars (on purpose), will still sound that way, even with allegedly mellow tubes.  But yeah, the Lyr + Q701 is a great combo.  I wouldn't buy the Lyr just for the Q701, however.  It's total overkill, unless you're just dying to explore a tube amp.  And of course there are more tube amps than you can shake a stick at.  FWIW, I got the Lyr because I was getting the HE-500 and read so many reviews about them pairing up so well.  They didn't lie.

 

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by zyxfhtf View Post
 

I just have a question that are there any amplifiers you will recommend for Q701?

 

Best i've heard is the Headroom Micro Amp for $250 or so. That is also perfect for any AKG headphone you can throw at it and also plays well with the HD-650.

I've found it to be very transparent (more so than the O2 IMO) but without sounding cold/analytical/bright. It has smoother treble than the O2/Magni but it's not dark or warm.

If a headphone is too treble happy it won't fix that.

 

It pairs up perfectly with a Modi or ODAC.

post #4446 of 9490

I suggest wait for the Vali to see how will it perform with the Q701, who knows, it may be the greatest budget amp for it.

post #4447 of 9490
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Have to say that I love ambient electronica on the Q701 and am always looking for hidden gems. Itunes has a ton of stuff you can sample but buy elsewhere if needed. Love ambient electronica because there's almost always a specific artist that almost anyone could like I think. I like the really minimal stuff that's good for relaxing. Not the really dark stuff with all the droning noises etc. It's hard to find ambient that's not too repetitive.

 

Before the mod, I used my Q701 essentially for Electronica, Folk, Vocal jazz, Strings, Acoustic music and vocals in general.

After the mod, for... all genres  :biggrin:

Mmmhhh... love that low bass.

Modded Q701 is so addicting....

 

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Way easier to pick out the lower bitrate files that are in my collection. There isn't many really.

 

IMO, the dynamic range of the recording is way more important than the encoding compression rate.

The encoding bitrate is often completely overemphasized.

A moderately compressed recording will sound much better at 128 kbs than a highly compressed recording encoded in FLAC.

A few examples:

http://www.digido.com/honor-roll.html?option=com_content&Itemid=54&id=46&lang=en&view=article&option=com_content&Itemid=54&id=46&lang=en&view=article&fontstyle=f-smaller

post #4448 of 9490
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For economical portable, I am fine with my Fiio E17 DAC/amp for $100.  On high gain, it's very decent.

If you are willing to spend more, maybe some tube amps will warm up the Q701 nicely.  Look into the Schiit amps or maybe sunrise or amber DIY.   What I've found so far is that the Q701 does scale up very nicely with better amps.  Your pocket is the limit in this case. 

Do you still use the E17 often? After getting the ODAC I realized that the E17 leaves a bit to be desired in the DAC section. The amp section isn't too bad, but of course my vintage Pioneer totally destroys it. For a $140 portable it's hard to beat, but the Q701 really deserves a nice desktop setup. 

post #4449 of 9490
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Do you still use the E17 often? After getting the ODAC I realized that the E17 leaves a bit to be desired in the DAC section. The amp section isn't too bad, but of course my vintage Pioneer totally destroys it. For a $140 portable it's hard to beat, but the Q701 really deserves a nice desktop setup. 


At work, everyday for hours and hours and right now!  After the bass port mod, I am very content with the sound.

On the weekend, I bring the Q701 home to spend some quality time with it on my Woo WA22.  It's something else with the WA22.  But the WA22 doesn't do as well with my HE500.  That's when the mighty Emotiva Mini-X comes in.  I am close to end game... I can see it...I can feel it...but I can't hear it yet.  :D

post #4450 of 9490
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


At work, everyday for hours and hours and right now!  After the bass port mod, I am very content with the sound.

On the weekend, I bring the Q701 home to spend some quality time with it on my Woo WA22.  It's something else with the WA22.  But the WA22 doesn't do as well with my HE500.  That's when the mighty Emotiva Mini-X comes in.  I am close to end game... I can see it...I can feel it...but I can't hear it yet.  :D

 

You are close to the End Game?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........:tongue:

post #4451 of 9490
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


At work, everyday for hours and hours and right now!  After the bass port mod, I am very content with the sound.

On the weekend, I bring the Q701 home to spend some quality time with it on my Woo WA22.  It's something else with the WA22.  But the WA22 doesn't do as well with my HE500.  That's when the mighty Emotiva Mini-X comes in.  I am close to end game... I can see it...I can feel it...but I can't hear it yet.  :D

Do you not notice that your other DAC('s) have much better detail? Even going from the E17 to the ODAC I noticed quite a big difference. Even the amp section of the E17 hides some detail compared to better amps.

post #4452 of 9490
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

Do you not notice that your other DAC('s) have much better detail? Even going from the E17 to the ODAC I noticed quite a big difference. Even the amp section of the E17 hides some detail compared to better amps.

 

I hear a difference between my E17 and my iBasso D12, the D12 shows more detail, more tactile feel, a cleaner, quieter background, more transparency.

post #4453 of 9490
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

Do you not notice that your other DAC('s) have much better detail? Even going from the E17 to the ODAC I noticed quite a big difference. Even the amp section of the E17 hides some detail compared to better amps.


yes jason, but in a way, it's a blessing for the Q701 with the E17 masking/hiding some imperfections.  At home, the TEAC DAC is too detailed sometimes and very unforgiving, especially with the WA22 with the Q701.  On some recordings, I have to switch to HE500 to lush things out a bit.  As I said before, I am very fortunate and flexible that I can re-adjust my expectation when I am on different combo.  As long as they are not straight out horrible, I can still enjoy my music very much.

I went through all my spyro gyra albums on the Q701/WA22.  It was quite a sonic treat to my ears.


Edited by koiloco - 10/28/13 at 4:21pm
post #4454 of 9490

I love you guys, and I hate myself for doing so.
I didn't want to fall into "theoretical" sonic differences when I upgrade my equipment. There are people out there who think audiophiles just buy more expensive equipment because they have the money for it, then justify their purchases by arguing them on headfi.

This is my first 10 minutes with the FiiO E12 and I already notice the differences.
First off, I always knew the q701 had two layers of soundstaging. However this second soundstage is no longer a fade off from the first layer, but a solid soundstage. Also, the E12 makes everything flat, solid, and a bit more fuller than the E07K.
The E07K however is warmer, but more spacious than the E12.

With classical music, it's night and day difference. With songs blaring constant vocals, not so much.

Put them together, E07K DAC and FiiO AMP? Warm, fullness, and a solid soundstage.

post #4455 of 9490
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Originally Posted by zyxfhtf View Post

I just have a question that are there any amplifiers you will recommend for Q701?

For a bit over $100, the FiiO E12 or FiiO E09K

For about $300, the matrix M Stage.

 

Owned many K701 variants and many amplifiers, but few have really hit good synergy for me like the M-stage. I'll also be tuning into the Vali impressions with this line. 

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