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post #3226 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

 

Thanks for pointing out that we are all insane!

I could continue............but why bother?

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post #3227 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

Check out my avatar: I'm just a little Polar Bear!
D'aw...
post #3228 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

and you are being trained professionally?  don't be offended with what I am about to say ok?  You are wrong and ignorant at the same time.  Maybe, you might need some time to both grow up and develop your ears.  For certain people, their senses might not be fully developed till way later.  Just my 2 cents but then like you, I could be wrong. rolleyes.gif  Wait, I think I will retract my previous statement.  Like other senses, some people see colors; some can't see any colors; and some can see super colors.  We are all wired different.  Just because you can't hear the difference doesn't mean other people can't and are insane.  Never mind then...


Edited by koiloco - 7/6/13 at 6:40pm
post #3229 of 8309
Koiloco,
I think what you're trying to say, is that bluntly saying "I think I know better, based on my perspective it seems crazy that other people don't hear the same result as me and thus have the same values as me," isn't exactly a way to earn respect. I think the hooligan means well, in some kind of... Wake up call way I guess, but it's your choice to let words get to you personally.

Anyway, my grammar is only making half-sense to myself since I'm so tired, so I would just advise not to be offended by the opinions or word choice of others. If you're like me, then you have your own experiences and idea of how much you value the differences in audio reproduction. I pretty much only let the opinions of others sway me if they're my friends, and they can express themselves with authentic positive intent.
post #3230 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

 

I think there's something wrong with your ears. I feel sorry that you're studying music.

post #3231 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

Yes we are insane, but we are in the same asylum : you are insane too in your own way.
You probably don't listen to music the way we do, so who's wrong : I'd say everyone or non-one are both valid answers, you don't hear differences when we do.
You probably are too focused on technical analysis, we don't share this view because we are not trained musicians. And like you don't need to be a painter to love a painting, we are not wrong to see different colors in music on our different headphones when you don't.
post #3232 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Koiloco,
I think what you're trying to say, is that bluntly saying "I think I know better, based on my perspective it seems crazy that other people don't hear the same result as me and thus have the same values as me," isn't exactly a way to earn respect. I think the hooligan means well, in some kind of... Wake up call way I guess, but it's your choice to let words get to you personally.

Anyway, my grammar is only making half-sense to myself since I'm so tired, so I would just advise not to be offended by the opinions or word choice of others. If you're like me, then you have your own experiences and idea of how much you value the differences in audio reproduction. I pretty much only let the opinions of others sway me if they're my friends, and they can express themselves with authentic positive intent.

@Evshrug,  

I am really not here to earn respect.  I am here to learn, read about what I don't know and also voice my opinions about the community and its members if needed.  First of all, I am not even a bit offended by Amesthehooligan's post or let it get to me personally in any way.  I just found what he/she said extremely insensitive.  I don't think what he said would be considered "mean well, in some kind of..." by many people here.  I am extremely new to this hobby myself but I would never say the people here who spends $$$ on a cable, $$$$ on HPs, and $$$$$ on amps are insane people in anyway.  Just because I can't distinguish, hear and appreciate differences in HPs, cables, amps... doesn't mean others can't.  

Saying things like "And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones." This is what I didn't agree with and just pointed it out to the poster simply that. I can certainly ignore what he/she said but unfortunately, I am not one of those who can do so.  But rest assure, it didn't get to me at all.  Thx for your advise and input though.

post #3233 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

Thanks for pointing out that we are all insane!
I could continue............but why bother?
Check out my avatar: I'm just a little Polar Bear!
And look at me! A panda with internet connection? Blasphemous!
post #3234 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

If you mean a middle-C sounds like a middle-C in every headphone, you are correct. But sound is more than musical notes. If notes are all you hear, good for you, stick to your iBuds.

 

This is somewhat typical of musicians, BTW. Their brain focuses on the melodic aspect and "rebuilds" whatever is lacking (such as timbric details) quite adeptly, to the point where even plain bandpass filtered AM radio is enough for them.


Edited by Wildstar - 7/7/13 at 3:14am
post #3235 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.

Want to swap your Q701 and HD598 for a pair of $4 Chinese Beats look-a-likes, I know a few people who would appreciate them. I'll pay the postage.

post #3236 of 8309
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

And look at me! A panda with internet connection? Blasphemous!

No, you're a little girl with an Internet connection!
post #3237 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Amesthehooligan View Post

Okay, I'm gonna be honest here.  After listening a lot to these headphones, I'm really not seeing the big deal- with any of this headphone crap.  I'm a piano student, so a lot of my effort and training is geared towards hearing minute differences in music.  And maybe I'm wrong here, but whether I use good headphones, bad headphones, or even my laptop speakers, everything just sounds the same.  So at the moment, I'm starting to think that all of you are insane for spending your hard earned money on players, amps, and headphones.  

Anyway..........
you may want to expand on this a bit more.

Are you saying a Yamaha sounds like a Bosendorf sounds like a Steinway, etc?
Are you saying that if you record a piano and want to monitor the recording process at various steps of the way you don't need to spend much money or be very selective to get a high quality set of studio monitors?

Or we could just argue that I'm basically a trained drummer and a professional Electrical Engineer so we should think I don't need much to recreate the musical event and BTW, measurements are everything so all DACs should sound identical.

At the end of the day, everyone here understands that we have all headphone gear to please ourselves and no one else.
post #3238 of 8309
Don't feed the troll. I doubt Amesthehooligan is even going to come back to read your responses.
post #3239 of 8309
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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post

Don't feed the troll. I doubt Amesthehooligan is even going to come back to read your responses.


Does that mean I won't get his phones :(

post #3240 of 8309

Hard to believe someone who says he's trained to listen such as you can't hear a difference. Of course if your just saying hearing something at all is good enough for you, but quality doesn't matter, then your definitely in the wrong place.

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