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Originally Posted by SpaceInvaders View Post


Wow they really sound that good with metal and rock? I was kinda worried as these seem to be perfect for me with the clarity and soundstage but my fear was the lack in rock-department. Have you amped them? Do you think it would be a good option for adding bass?

 

Can't wait to get my Q701 and amp which will arrive 2 weeks later[ ;( ]. :D   I'm coming from K501 so I'm not expecting anything spectacular in the improvement-section but still expecting something awesome. I will let you know once I get 'em!

These headphones are gonna work well with any genre. I think its quite misleading to say that headphones don't work well with a particular genre because of some particular trait. It's more so about what YOU want your headphones to sound like. I only say this because the bulk of my music is hip-hop and any headphone without big bass its described around here as "not for hip hop", which is wrong. I want my music to be true to source, so i went with these Q701's and a transparent amp i knew could drive them well. If i'm in the mood for a bass heavy sound, i switch headphones... I'd say the second most music in my collection is Metal/Nu-Metal/Rock, so i agree that these headphones sound great with those genres aswell. 

Sorry to vent, i just feel like alot of opinions can be judgemental based on your music taste, rather then the type of sound you're looking for. 
 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Just got my Qs re cabled to dual entry balanced.  Playing them on a fully balanced B22.  Man the soundstage and the imaging and the detail is that of the HD800s.  This truly a good balanced headphone.   I feel like I'm getting the most out them now.  

Trying to contact AKG (Harmon) now to see if they sell the ring without the connector for the Qs.







What was the cost to recable if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by 1-MiC View Post

These headphones are gonna work well with any genre. I think its quite misleading to say that headphones don't work well with a particular genre because of some particular trait. It's more so about what YOU want your headphones to sound like. I only say this because the bulk of my music is hip-hop and any headphone without big bass its described around here as "not for hip hop", which is wrong. I want my music to be true to source, so i went with these Q701's and a transparent amp i knew could drive them well. If i'm in the mood for a bass heavy sound, i switch headphones... I'd say the second most music in my collection is Metal/Nu-Metal/Rock, so i agree that these headphones sound great with those genres aswell. 

Sorry to vent, i just feel like alot of opinions can be judgemental based on your music taste, rather then the type of sound you're looking for. 
 

Agreed. 

 

I'm at a crossroads right now though. The last few days I've been toying with a modded Fostex T50rp, and they are very nice too. The way I have them tuned they are pretty much the opposite of the Q701. My T50rp is very bassy and has warm, forward mids, with a darker treble. The Q701 in comparison is bass light, with more aggressive treble. I love both right now even with the same genres. 


Edited by jasonb - 2/26/13 at 4:59pm
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What was the cost to recable if you don't mind me asking?

 

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Thanks for reply
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I have a balanced Q701 as well smily_headphones1.gif I only use single ended though, building a balanced cable for the NY Meet though

Also, as for the HE-400 vs Q701 + Lyr comparison, I turned the volume up to high on the Lyr, and blew out the driver on my He-400's lol, I think at lease. So, review will have to wait..
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


I'm curious as to why you would think that a tube amp would be better than a solid state amp driving the Q701s?
For example, I have a Matrix M Stage. That amp drives the headphones to a louder volume than I would want to listen to.
Theorically, the E12 should easily drive the Q701s to ear crushing volumes.C

 

 It's not exactly the gain I'm looking for in a tube amp but the warmth. Don't get me wrong, the Q701's are quite loud especially compared to my laptop/Cowon Z2, but still not just loud enough. The volumes I'm looking for would most likely be found in a desktop amp with more power.

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Originally Posted by hotsauce81 View Post

Hi :-)

Evshrug: Cool! Witch track is that?

I have also listened to 'Air' today, 'La Femme d'argent' with a fresh espresso!
..and also PJ Harvey's 'On Battleship Hill'
Um um uuuuuuuhm... The track is "There's Always Something Better." It gets decent rotation among my many other songs, but as often happens I forget to pick up more tracks during the day-to-day. You know. Usually, I try to get back to completing my Radiohead or Arcade Fire collection, but sometimes weird moods will strike me and I'll love something I heard on shuffle and buy more stuff of that genre or artist. I also love the record label samplers, and iTunes free downloads. Who did "La Femme D'argent?"
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Originally Posted by J Bones View Post

 It's not exactly the gain I'm looking for in a tube amp but the warmth. Don't get me wrong, the Q701's are quite loud especially compared to my laptop/Cowon Z2, but still not just loud enough. The volumes I'm looking for would most likely be found in a desktop amp with more power.
I haven't needed more volume either, usually, but I know exactly what you're thinking of regarding tube warmth. Unfortunately (for your wallet), I probably only have things to say that'll whet your appetite wink.gif I read up on the Bravo and Indeed variants, then a comment on the Bravo thread shot me over to researching a "super simple 6DJ8 amp," which I think is related to a modification of one of the first hi-fi amps. I thought, "maybe these tubes can add more bass bottom-end," but now that I got one of those amps (made for me by Zigis), I realized more musical, engaging mids, redefining what I think people might mean when they say "tube warmth." And, I am addicted. I've got an Amperex (from Holland), a Sylvania JAN (uh, America I think?), and now I have 4 Voskhod Reflektors on the way from Russia.
Edited by Evshrug - 2/27/13 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I haven't needed more volume either, usually, but I know exactly what you're thinking of regarding tube warmth. Unfortunately (for your wallet), I probably only have things to say that'll whet your appetite wink.gif I read up on the Bravo and Indeed variants, then a comment on the Bravo thread shot me over to researching a "super simple 6DJ8 amp," which I think is related to a modification of one of the first hi-fi amps. I thought, "maybe these tubes can add more bass bottom-end," but now that I got one of those amps (made for me by Zigis), I realized more musical, engaging mids, redefining what I think people might mean when they say "tube warmth." And, I am addicted. I've got an Amperex (from Holland), a Sylvania JAN (uh, America I think?), and now I have 4 Voskhod Reflektors on the way from Russia.

 

Lol. I've been 'virtually' tube rolling in my head, just thinking of the possible combinations I could come up with when I finally manage some time down the road to get a Lyr. I've heard as well that the sound it'll produce, especially with the Q701's, is more unique than anything and that not much other can reproduce quite like it. While it may not be the best sounding in terms of SQ and accurate reproduction, it certainly has it's niche in the market it seems. 

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I haven't needed more volume either, usually, but I know exactly what you're thinking of regarding tube warmth. Unfortunately (for your wallet), I probably only have things to say that'll whet your appetite wink.gifI read up on the Bravo and Indeed variants, then a comment on the Bravo thread shot me over to researching a "super simple 6DJ8 amp," which I think is related to a modification of one of the first hi-fi amps. I thought, "maybe these tubes can add more bass bottom-end," but now that I got one of those amps (made for me by Zigis), I realized more musical, engaging mids, redefining what I think people might mean when they say "tube warmth." And, I am addicted. I've got an Amperex (from Holland), a Sylvania JAN (uh, America I think?), and now I have 4 Voskhod Reflektors on the way from Russia.

 

I completely agree with that: it is not about how loud you can go. I recently purchased the WA7 and am quite amazed how much better Q701s sound with it. Note that I have previously powered them with the NFB-5, which actually has more power. The WA7 sound is more subtle, refined and engaging.

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Originally Posted by J Bones View Post

 It's not exactly the gain I'm looking for in a tube amp but the warmth. Don't get me wrong, the Q701's are quite loud especially compared to my laptop/Cowon Z2, but still not just loud enough. The volumes I'm looking for would most likely be found in a desktop amp with more power.

Oh OK then.
Now I understand.
I've tried a Lyr (briefly) with Q701,I thought it sounded really good.
I have a La Figaro 336C, I like it with the Q701s for some music, I don't really prefer that combo with bass heavy music.
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I still prefer these over my new self modded Fostex T50rp. My goal isn't/wasn't to make the T50rp sound the same as the Q701. My goal is/was to make them sound dark and bass heavy and have good isolation. I basically want them to be the opposite of the Q701. They do sound different, but I still wish I could squeeze a little more bass out of the T50rp though. The Fostex sound good, but I guess I just like the Q701 type of sound better. 

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This is kinda off topic but coming from Finland I can recommend getting that Nightwish album, possibly the earlier (before 2007) production with Tarja Turunen as lead singer. There is also another great Finnish band called Apocalyptica. They play cellos and its pretty awesome. I think there are some orchestral albums available. I don't have any specific albums to recommend, sorry.

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I have a Trentmøller track that I love, too!
Hotsauce81 is using an Asus Essence One ($600 MSRP) as a DAC/Amp.
I noticed an improvement from the AD700 to Q701 straight out of my iPod (and LOD + E5, which was all the modest gear I had as of last year), treble was slightly less peaky and the lower end was filled-in, very good! I ought to just publish my notes from listening as a review, songs I'd heard and analyzed so many times were just gripping me emotionally. Where before I often skipped through songs after a few seconds and concentrated on differences between the AD700 vs my older portables, I started out listening with the same intent and dissecting the sound, but after a while I noticed I had unconsciously started bobbing my feet to the music, I was letting each song play in full, and eventually I gave up on writing and just enjoyed listening. Nowadays, I listen to anything with my Q's, spanning a wide selection from rock, alt-rock, trip-hop, reggae, R&B, dance, basically anywhere my ADHD takes me. I have gained a renewed appreciation for orchestral music of course, there is a lot of power to a full orchestra recorded in-venue with quality mic equipment, and a great groove with stuff such as Andrew Bird's curious music. LOVE Arcade Fire. I need to get a Nightwish album sometime.

I have an HE-400 on loan, but there's just some songs I don't like with it. Too colored for use with everything to my ears, but then I'm not everyone.
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Originally Posted by SpaceInvaders View Post

This is kinda off topic but coming from Finland I can recommend getting that Nightwish album, possibly the earlier (before 2007) production with Tarja Turunen as lead singer. There is also another great Finnish band called Apocalyptica. They play cellos and its pretty awesome. I think there are some orchestral albums available. I don't have any specific albums to recommend, sorry.

YEAH!

I heard an album of theirs around 2008, I've had a purchase earmarked forever... but other things keep distracting me then I became dirt poor while having more bills than ever before. Since it's bubbled back to the top of my mind though, I'll probably pick up an album with my first paycheck from my new job  ^___^

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I'm so very torn on whether I like my Q701 more or my new modded Fostex T50rp more. 

 

They don't sound all that radically different, so it's not even that I prefer one over the other for certain genres. They both sound great with everything I listen to them with, but just different. The modded T50rp has a slightly bigger/flatter bass, a more full lower mid-range, with a more gentle treble, but it still has plenty of sparkle and top end detail for cymbals. The soundstage on the modded T50rp isn't even that bad in comparison either. It's obviously not as wide, but it's not ridiculously narrow either. The T50rp seems to have a deeper soundstage placing things more in front(further away). I feel like I can pick out more detail in the mid-range with the T50rp, but I may be wrong. The T50rp also wins big time in terms of isolation, which doesn't really matter all that much since most of my listening is done in an almost dead silent room. I guess it will be a bigger help when it warms up and I have to use my window A/C unit. After padding the headband on the T50rp comfort is great, but I have no complaints about the comfort of the Q701 either.   

 

I still need to get around to doing some A/B comparisons, but this is how I feel after using the Fostex now all week instead of the Q701. 

 

My original goal with the T50rp was to make them sound the opposite of the Q701 and have above average isolation. I originally wanted them to be bass heavy and dark, like an HD650 on steroids. I haven't been able to get the bass quantity I had wanted out of them, so now they ended up being how I describe them above. Now they are pretty much just a little bit different sounding from my Q701, but are more portable. They are different sounding than the Q701, don't get me wrong, but it just isn't as big of a difference as I was originally hoping for. 

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