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I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I'm just a newbie of the audiophile world with expensive cans.
How reliable would you guys say these headphones are for mastering? Should I trust mastering tracks with the Q701's? Or would you guys say that the Fostex T50RP w/Alpha Pads be a better choice?

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I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I'm just a newbie of the audiophile world with expensive cans.
How reliable would you guys say these headphones are for mastering? Should I trust mastering tracks with the Q701's? Or would you guys say that the Fostex T50RP w/Alpha Pads be a better choice?

IMO, Q701 will be better but make sure you have a decent neutral DAC/Amp.  Cuz straight up, high could be a touch hot and low could be a touch thin/cold.  You might be over adjusting!  Listen to your familiar tracks first to establish a reference base line.  Then you will know what to compensate for and what not.  I mix/master using Q701 to generally get the bulk done first but I still use monitor after to final tweak.  Then back to HPs again to balance things out a bit.  I can't use my HE500 to mix/master as well.  HE500 smoothes out and makes everything sound great.  :D

HD800 is great and ruthlessly accurate too for mixing/mastering but of course, too much $.

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IMO, Q701 will be better but make sure you have a decent neutral DAC/Amp.  Cuz straight up, high could be a touch hot and low could be a touch thin/cold.  You might be over adjusting!  Listen to your familiar tracks first to establish a reference base line.  Then you will know what to compensate for and what not.  I mix/master using Q701 to generally get the bulk done first but I still use monitor after to final tweak.  Then back to HPs again to balance things out a bit.  I can't use my HE500 to mix/master as well.  HE500 smoothes out and makes everything sound great.  :D

HD800 is great and ruthlessly accurate too for mixing/mastering but of course, too much $.



Hmph, alright =D
I guess I'll just use the amp the studio provides if the E12 won't cut it.

I'm not doing any serious mastering that will earn money though, it's just for an indie band. I just happen to love post-processing software in general (video/audio/still images)

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Hmph, alright =D
I guess I'll just use the amp the studio provides if the E12 won't cut it.

I'm not doing any serious mastering that will earn money though, it's just for an indie band. I just happen to love post-processing software in general (video/audio/still images)

E12 should be just fine for what you are doing.  IMO, It's a touch on the warmer side which will keep the Q701's high in check nicely :)

Have fun.

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Hmmm, your post won't quote, but thanks.  And yes, Made on Pluto, but it's printed with a special ink only visible when rays of reflected Plutonian light strike it.  I plan to be cryogenically preserved and awoken when those rays will arrive at Earth.  Then I'll post a pic!  No doubt Head-Fi will still be going strong in that far distant future.


Confused yet?  ;-)
China FTW!!!

Master!
We will await the Day the Rays Of Pluto awaken your Royal Emminence!
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I've been also thinking about the matrix m-stage. I've heard nothing but compliments about them. Btw, what's the difference between them and the "new class A"? They are both sold on amazon.

The Class A only refers to the Op Amp you choose to use in the M Stage. A lot of folks roll in an LM4562, which are normally not modded for Class A.
Note: Class A = more distortion when rolling in these Op Amps..........I'm 99% sure.

The output stage is always Class A.
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Master!
We will await the Day the Rays Of Pluto awaken your Royal Emminence!

 

LOL :smile:

 

I think the cold way up yonder has affected our Toronto Tonto's brain ;)   Best get down to Yonge and drink a pint or two, and one for me.  *sigh* I miss that town.  Good times the one time I was there.

 

 

Max Webster FTW!!!

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I think the cold way up yonder has affected our Toronto Tonto's brain " src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/wink.gif">   Best get down to Yonge and drink a pint or two, and one for me.  *sigh* I miss that town.  Good times the one time I was there.

 

 

Max Webster FTW!!!

 



Max Webster: I remember seeing them open up for Rush a few dozen times.

Back then I was more of A Foot In Coldwater fan.
Paul Naumann lives!
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Max Webster FTW!!!

 



Max Webster: I remember seeing them open up for Rush a few dozen times.

Back then I was more of A Foot In Coldwater fan.
Paul Naumann lives!

 

Jealous!

 

I'd never heard of  A Foot In Cold Water.

Guess he was a good guitar player, eh?

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Okay, so I figured all of you were right, the songs really were bad mastering. I can play any classical songs and proper pop/rock songs that don't have loud crashes with the q701-m. Pretty much limiting my music to acoustic, vocals and classical.

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Jealous!

 

I'd never heard of  A Foot In Cold Water.

Guess he was a good guitar player, eh?

Yes, Paul was one of Canada's finest guitar players.

A Foot In Coldwater were fairly popular in Canada in the mid 70's

 

I guess Max were more popular in the late 70's, early 80s???

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Yes, Paul was one of Canada's finest guitar players.

A Foot In Coldwater were fairly popular in Canada in the mid 70's

 

I guess Max were more popular in the late 70's, early 80s???

 

Yeah, I reckon that's about right.  First album was 1976.  I just got the first three (CD reissues), as I was never able to find them on vinyl back in the day.  I'm recording the vinyl I have to a PC... to be enjoyed on the Q701, of course ;-)

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woot, today I got my AKG Q701's. So excited, I paired 'em up with the ASUS Xonar Essence STX and they sound great!

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woot, today I got my AKG Q701's. So excited, I paired 'em up with the ASUS Xonar Essence STX and they sound great!

Gratz! If you bought them new, give them a little time to be their best.

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Okay, so I figured all of you were right, the songs really were bad mastering. I can play any classical songs and proper pop/rock songs that don't have loud crashes with the q701-m. Pretty much limiting my music to acoustic, vocals and classical.
There's a reason there's a stereotype about stodgy Audiophiles preferring those genres... Generally there's just more talent and time invested at the mastering stage. Doesn't mean there aren't good examples of Rock and Progressive, or electronica, it's just you'll get really excited when you find a great combination of performer and producer.

One thing that used to (and occasionally still) fascinate me was what happens when different parts of a mix/FR are emphasized. Gnarles Barkley's "Crazy" sounds like a different song when played on laptop speakers, Bose headphones, and my Q701's. It goes from a beat-driven, energetic track on one driver, to a more somber almost requiem track when the backing female vocals come forward and the beat is de-emphasized.
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woot, today I got my AKG Q701's. So excited, I paired 'em up with the ASUS Xonar Essence STX and they sound great!
It really does blow you away, doesn't it, when you hear how the Q701 both is refined and revealing little details/nuances while also being so involving! Happy for you to be having a good time smily_headphones1.gif
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