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post #1771 of 6558
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

AKG still produces their higher end products in Austria. But the majority of their manufacturing is now done in China, yes.

Ah okay....interesting. Thanks for clarifying. 

post #1772 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

Ah okay....interesting. Thanks for clarifying. 

 

I was confused by that originally myself. I had assumed all production had been moved to China but the x70x and the K3003s are made in Austria still. There may be more, but those are the only ones I know offhand. I think they may manufacture anything that has an individual number in Austria.

post #1773 of 6558
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

I was confused by that originally myself. I had assumed all production had been moved to China but the x70x and the K3003s are made in Austria still. There may be more, but those are the only ones I know offhand. I think they may manufacture anything that has an individual number in Austria.

 

 

I had also read a few posts that said AKG photoshopped the "Made in Austria" words for some reason when they did some promotional photos...so wasn't sure what was going on. 

post #1774 of 6558

FOCKER... very nice review.  I'd say you are about right on with the Grado and Q701 comparison.  I had a pair of 325is that I really enjoyed but they just were too physically uncomfortable for me with the on-ear design as there is one section of the inner ridge of my right ear that unfortunately always burns after 45 minutes of pressure from the majority of on-ear designs I've worn.  It's a major bummer, honestly, as I would also love to own a pair of PS-500s as a companion to the Q.  Grado has a realistic and stimulating sound and the top end (where the highest highs are) simply BREATHES and moves so effortlessly, sending those shivers down the spine.

 

However, like what happened to me when I gave up my Grados, you might come to appreciate the Qs and what they can do for some music as well as their incredible separation for movies.  I found them to be very special in several ways that became more apparent as my brain experienced break-in to AKG's ideas.  Also, as others have said, don't be shy with EQ'ing them for a little more of that wonderful bass, as although their factory-tuned response has the bass taking a backseat, the texture and quality of it is simply impressive and it deserves more representation.  By the way, how does it compare to the PS-500 bass?

 

It's interesting to hear your thoughts on where the T-1 sits in the mix.  I was really considering trying the T-1 to bring some of that Grado excitement back into my life (with more comfort), but I was hesitant to spend the money until I could hear them at a head-fi meet somewhere and *really* know for sure if they would be worth all that compared to the value of the Q at under $300.

post #1775 of 6558
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Originally Posted by derbigpr View Post

 

It says made in Austria on the box and on the headphones, so they're definitely made in China.

 

If it says Made in Austria, they are made in Austria, there are international laws against making misleading statements.

post #1776 of 6558
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Originally Posted by discombob View Post

FOCKER... very nice review.  I'd say you are about right on with the Grado and Q701 comparison.  I had a pair of 325is that I really enjoyed but they just were too physically uncomfortable for me with the on-ear design as there is one section of the inner ridge of my right ear that unfortunately always burns after 45 minutes of pressure from the majority of on-ear designs I've worn.  It's a major bummer, honestly, as I would also love to own a pair of PS-500s as a companion to the Q.  Grado has a realistic and stimulating sound and the top end (where the highest highs are) simply BREATHES and moves so effortlessly, sending those shivers down the spine.

 

However, like what happened to me when I gave up my Grados, you might come to appreciate the Qs and what they can do for some music as well as their incredible separation for movies.  I found them to be very special in several ways that became more apparent as my brain experienced break-in to AKG's ideas.  Also, as others have said, don't be shy with EQ'ing them for a little more of that wonderful bass, as although their factory-tuned response has the bass taking a backseat, the texture and quality of it is simply impressive and it deserves more representation.  By the way, how does it compare to the PS-500 bass?

 

It's interesting to hear your thoughts on where the T-1 sits in the mix.  I was really considering trying the T-1 to bring some of that Grado excitement back into my life (with more comfort), but I was hesitant to spend the money until I could hear them at a head-fi meet somewhere and *really* know for sure if they would be worth all that compared to the value of the Q at under $300.

 

You're definitely not alone in your dislike for supra-aurals...I've come across a lot of folks who feel as you do. I can't say the PS500s are as comfortable as my T1s, but thankfully the comfort isn't a deal breaker with my ears. That is definitely one thing I really like about the Qs is the comfort level...last night I was watching Hell on Wheels and about an hour of Marathon Man and it was almost like wearing nothing at all. Even though I place a higher priority the quality of music reproduction over that of movie sound, I spend a greater amount of time with movies than I do music, so having the comfort of the Qs is nice. I definitely like the quality of the bass, so I'll certainly take your suggestion and consider EQ'ing them a bit. I'm pretty happy with the bass and the mids, I just need to come to terms with the highs....I still can't put my finger on it yet, but there is something about them that sticks out to me. I'll just have to give them more head time to figure out what it is. Seems like some of you guys have had issues with the highs, too, so glad to hear I'm not alone in that.

 

Regarding the PS500s, they don't have much sub-bass at all, but the bass that is present is very clean. I'd say they're a bit more potent than the Qs in the low end, but some of that is the mid bass emphasis that the 500s have. Even though the Qs have clean bass, as well, it does sound different than the Grado bass to me. I can't really say which headphone I like better in the low end since I like the quality of both. The 500s do emphasize the bass a tad more, though. The T1s are really great headphones...I'm infatuated with their build and their comfort and even though I would choose the PS500s over them that doesn't mean I don't really enjoy them. I actually don't think the T1s are Beyer's best headphone, though....in terms of the price:performance ratio, I'd have to give the nod to the 1350s. As time goes on, the more these headphones impress me. Flat all the way down to 5hz, easy to drive, durable, portable, under three bills, relatively comfortable and cool, etc. They aren't as comfortable as the T1s or the Qs, but they seem to breathe really well and allow your ears to stay cool, so I find them quite comfortable to wear. The Qs would be better for long term sessions sicne the clamp on the 1350s would start to be an issue after an hour or two, but in terms of an overall great headphone I give the 1350s really high marks.

 

I'm pretty sure I'm keeping the Qs, though...I found myself looking forward to getting home last night to put them on, and after work today I'm looking forward to doing the same again....have a big weekend of football and movies to look forward to!

post #1777 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

If you do a search, you'll see that AKG's own website indicated that they shifted production to China within the last few years. 


Yes, for some models.  K701, K702 and Q701 are made in Austria.

post #1778 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

I'm pretty happy with the bass and the mids, I just need to come to terms with the highs....I still can't put my finger on it yet, but there is something about them that sticks out to me. I'll just have to give them more head time to figure out what it is. Seems like some of you guys have had issues with the highs, too, so glad to hear I'm not alone in that.

 

Yeah, you're not alone... as you already mentioned, it sounds like the Qs have much less extension of the highs than Grados do, which I think are Grado's best performing area, no matter how wild the measurements sometimes look (that and the intimate, forward mids).

 

Have fun this weekend treating the ears to that awesome gear you have  :)

post #1779 of 6558
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Originally Posted by discombob View Post

 

Yeah, you're not alone... as you already mentioned, it sounds like the Qs have much less extension of the highs than Grados do, which I think are Grado's best performing area, no matter how wild the measurements sometimes look (that and the intimate, forward mids).

 

Have fun this weekend treating the ears to that awesome gear you have  :)

 

Thanks, I hope your weekend is full of great music/movies, too! :)

post #1780 of 6558

These are great headphones for movies....I've decided that I'm definitely keeping them and they are my new dedicated movie heaphones. I don't see myself using them for music very often, if at all, but they are so light and comfortable that I can wear them for hours and not even know they're on my head. With movie audio, they sound incredible paired with the Meier amp. 

post #1781 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

These are great headphones for movies....I've decided that I'm definitely keeping them and they are my new dedicated movie heaphones. I don't see myself using them for music very often, if at all, but they are so light and comfortable that I can wear them for hours and not even know they're on my head. With movie audio, they sound incredible paired with the Meier amp. 

 

Have fun with them with movie , but i think that time to time it's not bad to listen music with it :p , yeah you have PS500 or T1 for that purpose , but it will not hurt you to listening music with Q701 some times we need something to break up routine , but PS500-T1 seams allready good enough for atlernating tastes ... hum strating to think in getting a PS500 in the next month when incomes will be more ok biggrin.gif

post #1782 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

These are great headphones for movies....I've decided that I'm definitely keeping them and they are my new dedicated movie heaphones. I don't see myself using them for music very often, if at all, but they are so light and comfortable that I can wear them for hours and not even know they're on my head. With movie audio, they sound incredible paired with the Meier amp. 
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

Have fun with them with movie , but i think that time to time it's not bad to listen music with it tongue.gif , yeah you have PS500 or T1 for that purpose , but it will not hurt you to listening music with Q701 some times we need something to break up routine , but PS500-T1 seams allready good enough for atlernating tastes ... hum strating to think in getting a PS500 in the next month when incomes will be more ok biggrin.gif

Interesting discussion, I have both PS500 and Q701 (after a K701 I've sold recently). My wife really likes the Q701 for watching movies late at night, and personally after changing the sotkc cable for nice replacement I like to listen to music with my Q701. In addition I find it very comfortable for easy listening while reading of playing on my iPad.

About the PS500 I finally decided to put it for sale preferring my DENON D7000 since it is easier to use on a wider range of musics. The PS500 was very nice on live recordings, but doesn't give the same detailed listening as D7000 or even Q701 sometimes, and D7000 is much more at ease with complex pieces like symphonies.
post #1783 of 6558

I just ordered some K 702s

They will arrive the same day as my DT 880s and DT 990s (pro 250 ohms).. Should be quite a showdown

 

Can anyone tell me whether the AKGs or Beyers are easier to drive?


Edited by machoboy - 9/23/12 at 4:21am
post #1784 of 6558
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Originally Posted by machoboy View Post

I just ordered some K 702s

They will arrive the same day as my DT 880s and DT 990s (pro 250 ohms).. Should be quite a showdown

 

Can anyone tell me whether the AKGs or Beyers are easier to drive?

 

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

Heavy groan.

Define "easier to drive".

 

The DT880 and DT990 need more voltage, which means you have to turn the volume up more, or set the gain higher.

But they are not very taxing for an amp, because they don't pull a lot of current.

 

OTOH, apparently new K702 are the same as new Q701s and you can actually listen to Q701s via an iPad, just don't expect them to sound fantastic thru an iPad.

 

Really all those phones could do with a very nice sounding amp.  The Beyers usually sound better thru a tube amp.

 

YMMV


Edited by Chris J - 9/23/12 at 7:29am
post #1785 of 6558
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

 

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

Heavy groan.

Define "easier to drive".

 

The DT880 and DT990 need more voltage, which means you have to turn the volume up more, or set the gain higher.

But they are not very taxing for an amp, because they don't pull a lot of current.

 

OTOH, apparently new K702 are the same as new Q701s and you can actually listen to Q701s via an iPad, just don't expect them to sound fantastic thru an iPad.

 

Really all those phones could do with a very nice sounding amp.  The Beyers usually sound better thru a tube amp.

 

YMMV

 

you can also listen DT-880-600 ohms from an ipod . Tryed and it was far enough loud to be listenable , same for K702 or old K701 , but they will sound better with a proper amp for sure . 

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