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post #31 of 155
11/27/11 at 12:43pm


 

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With all this talk about the tf10 i have dug mine out and hooked them up to my headphone station , Graham Slee studio reference 2 amp pre-amped by a Yamaha A2 dsp amp with a ten band per channel graphic equalizer ,by eqing up the sub bass frequencies and a little cut at 500hz and 4hz they sound unbelievably good and every bit as good as my full size cans ,only fall short of there performance in sound stage size. The tf10 make me feel on stage with the musicians where as my full size cans i am a good ten rows back or more 

I have bad news fore you buddy ,with the same equipment and eq settings the Eq7 sounds much nicer than the tf10 , especially in the midrange and vocals and drums ! 
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Thanks for the observations buddy. How are the mids? Vocals?



 

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post #32 of 155
11/27/11 at 5:42pm
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I have bad news fore you buddy ,with the same equipment and eq settings the Eq7 sounds much nicer than the tf10 , especially in the midrange and vocals and drums ! 
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Well I figured the e-Q7 would sound better.. I remember that.... I wasn't trying to compare the TF10 with other IEMs... I'm certain all my favorites sound better than the TF10.. But on its own merit I was wondering (hoping) that the TF10 would be better with proper amping (and newer production)...  Thanks for your input buddy...smile.gif
 

 

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post #33 of 155
11/28/11 at 1:59pm
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Well I figured the e-Q7 would sound better.. I remember that.... I wasn't trying to compare the TF10 with other IEMs... I'm certain all my favorites sound better than the TF10.. But on its own merit I was wondering (hoping) that the TF10 would be better with proper amping (and newer production)...  Thanks for your input buddy...smile.gif
 

 



Eric,  I got my TF10's about four hours ago......WOW, if I had purchased these as my first IEM's I would never have purchased the other six.  I hear no recessed mids with my gears, (home system)....in fact the mids, vocals (these are the best vocals I have heard), guitars, drums all sound better than my other IEM's.  Such beautiful timbre....the only con for me is the cable....kinda thick and doesn't lay well.

 

I have already sold my FXT-90....TF10's IMO better that GR07, Sony 7550, Brainwavz B2 (twice), RE272, and FXT90, all by more than just a little.  The clarity I hear is spectacular.  I have an upgrade cable coming from China, but I don't know that it will improve the sound.

 

Like these so much that I purchased a second pair on Amazon.com for $152....

 

Something that helps, I wear them over ear with the right phone on left ear, and left phone on right ear.  I am using the cable from the RE272 accessory kit that allows me to wear them this way, the cable switches so the RE272 can be worn over ear.  Perfect fit, they don't stick out at all, very very comfortable this way. 

 

Can't wait to hear your impressions for your second time around!!

 

 

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post #34 of 155
11/28/11 at 2:07pm
ericp, you're a madman.

But if you decide to dump the tf10s again, I'll buy them. I wanted 1964Ears to reshell mine, but not enough to risk messing up the sound.
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post #35 of 155
11/28/11 at 2:14pm
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Well if there was ever a ringing endorsement for the TF10 @ cute, yours is it. I hope the second time is the charm for me, but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't think the TF10 sounds better than the FXT90, GR07 or 7550...And that's just because of the little I do remember about the TF10, it doesn't fit into my absolute sound signature favorite as those three do. I didn't get it today, but it should be in tomorrow....

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Eric,  I got my TF10's about four hours ago......WOW, if I had purchased these as my first IEM's I would never have purchased the other six.  I hear no recessed mids with my gears, (home system)....in fact the mids, vocals (these are the best vocals I have heard), guitars, drums all sound better than my other IEM's.  Such beautiful timbre....the only con for me is the cable....kinda thick and doesn't lay well.

 

I have already sold my FXT-90....TF10's IMO better that GR07, Sony 7550, Brainwavz B2 (twice), RE272, and FXT90, all by more than just a little.  The clarity I hear is spectacular.  I have an upgrade cable coming from China, but I don't know that it will improve the sound.

 

Like these so much that I purchased a second pair on Amazon.com for $152....

 

Something that helps, I wear them over ear with the right phone on left ear, and left phone on right ear.  I am using the cable from the RE272 accessory kit that allows me to wear them this way, the cable switches so the RE272 can be worn over ear.  Perfect fit, they don't stick out at all, very very comfortable this way. 

 

Can't wait to hear your impressions for your second time around!!

 

 



 

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post #36 of 155
11/28/11 at 2:15pm
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Okay, you're at the top of the list if do decide to sell....
 

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ericp, you're a madman.
But if you decide to dump the tf10s again, I'll buy them. I wanted 1964Ears to reshell mine, but not enough to risk messing up the sound.


 

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post #37 of 155
11/28/11 at 2:34pm
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Well if there was ever a ringing endorsement for the TF10 @ cute, yours is it. I hope the second time is the charm for me, but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't think the TF10 sounds better than the FXT90, GR07 or 7550...And that's just because of the little I do remember about the TF10, it doesn't fit into my absolute sound signature favorite as those three do. I didn't get it today, but it should be in tomorrow....



 



@ericp10,  I am not going to knock any of the previous IEM's that I have had.......it's just that the TF10 is what I was initially looking for in an IEM.  Just the right amount of bass, not a bass lover here, but the bass matches what my subwoofer does in my 2CH speaker system.....my Antimode 8033 adjusts optimum bass levels so they are not overdone/underdone.  From what I read, I expected mids to be back in the distance....I heard much of that in the FXT90, IMO, with the music I listen to.  Vocals, drums, guitars, horns, and strings all sound very natural to me, with a very pleasing timbre....and all of the intended details are clearly there....a very emotional sound that I had yet to hear in an IEM...treble is very extended, not harsh at all.....overall I like everthing about the sound!

 

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post #38 of 155
11/28/11 at 4:32pm

Interesting. The bass was the weakest aspect of the TF10 for me. Very nice and airy treble that extended effortlessly but ultimately one note type bass.  Sold the original and the reshells.  

 

Happy selling Eric!

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post #39 of 155
11/28/11 at 4:55pm
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Interesting. The bass was the weakest aspect of the TF10 for me. Very nice and airy treble that extended effortlessly but ultimately one note type bass.  Sold the original and the reshells.  

 

Happy selling Eric!


I am definately not hearing one note bass....Holly Cole acoustic bass couldn't be better....have you ever listened to "Spanish Harlem" by Rebecca Pidgeon from "The Raven"........that track has been a long time recommended test for one note bass.
 

 

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post #40 of 155
11/28/11 at 5:04pm
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I actually remembering liking the bass in the TF10.... So we will see...lol @ shotgunshane..

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post #41 of 155
11/29/11 at 7:48am

The bass on the TF10 is fantastic. And the treble is great as well. If they just retuned the mids! There are still some songs that when I'm trying out earphones, the triple.fi set the standard for how it should sound.
 

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I actually remembering liking the bass in the TF10.... So we will see...lol @ shotgunshane..



 

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post #42 of 155
11/29/11 at 8:06am

I'll take extension, texture and rumble of DD any day over the TF10 bass but it fits it's sound signature I suppose.  I also know I am biased in this regard and there are plenty that like the faster attack and separation in armatures. Looking forward to the Vsonic hybrid next year. 

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post #43 of 155
11/29/11 at 9:34am
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Well, it's in the mail room waiting on me...So I'll see if my memory serves me correctly soon. I also believe in burn-in for BAs, so I want judge it too harshly straight out of the box. I know what to expect, but I'm hoping to get a surprise (something that is drawing me back to the TF10, but not the e-Q7, IE8 or SM3 or HJ900). We'll see.

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post #44 of 155
11/29/11 at 10:58am
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Okay, here is one quick (and I mean quick observation) about the TF10s. The mids DO NOT sound nearly as recessed as I recall them sounding in my first pair of TF10s.Those mids stuck out (or didn't stick out actually) like a sore thumb. Here's the kicker though, The TF10 I bought prior to this one was from the batch before Logitech bought the company and took over. Could it be that Logitech bumped up the mids some? Hmmmm? I still need much more listening, but I remember putting the TF10s in my ears (the first time around) and the recessed mids immediately jumped out at me. Not so much now.... And I'm listening through an iPod Classic just like I did the first time almost three years ago. I'll let you know if my theory holds true...

The bass and treble still sound very very good to me.... These may stay (if I continue to find that the mids are better).

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post #45 of 155
11/29/11 at 11:13am
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Okay, here is one quick (and I mean quick observation) about the TF10s. The mids DO NOT sound nearly as recessed as I recall them sounding in my first pair of TF10s.Those mids stuck out (or didn't stick out actually) like a sore thumb. Here's the kicker though, The TF10 I bought prior to this one was from the batch before Logitech bought the company and took over. Could it be that Logitech bumped up the mids some? Hmmmm? I still need much more listening, but I remember putting the TF10s in my ears (the first time around) and the recessed mids immediately jumped out at me. Not so much now.... And I'm listening through an iPod Classic just like I did the first time almost three years ago. I'll let you know if my theory holds true...


The bass and treble still sound very very good to me.... These may stay (if I continue to find that the mids are better).

Glad you're enjoying them, though it looks like I may not be doing those customs after all.tongue.gif
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